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Old Feb 14, 2002 | 03:11 PM
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IT HAPPEND AGAIN!!!!! but worse! (LONG)

i just got my 2k2 6 speed back on monday after having 2nd, 3rd and 4th gear replaced!!! i have been driving the car very nice tryin to break in my new clutch! today i was driving down the road and i stop at a stop light and the car will not go into ANY gear!!!! i was ****ed called nissan while sitting there and seriously FORCED it into gear with all my wieght! so i am like WTF i start going down the road and hear a moaning noise that is coming from the tranny that is in sequence with the speed of the car! i am like WTF!!!!! i do a u turn and head to nissan imediately! on my way i am going down the road in 6th gear at 45 mph being nice worried that something was gonna happen if i keep switching gears (moaning noise is still going) i am rounding a slight turn to the left and BOOOOOOM!!!! the car felt like someone ran into me at 80mph my knees hit the steering wheel and the wind shield wipers and left blinkers tunred on it hit so hard!!!! at this poin i am about 2 miles from nissan! I AM SCARED out of my mind bc my car is slowly breaking while i try and get to nissan! i finally get there staying in 3rd gear the WHOLE way there from that point on! i get there the guy pulls it forward and was like well ur transmission sounds like it lost a gear!!!!! I AM FURIOUS but keep my cool! NEEDLESS to say that if i wasnt being cautious while driving i should be in a ditch on the side of the road!!! i am very impressed with the guy i was dealing with there at NISSAN/MAZDA (dealerships are owned by the same guy and is jointly involved between the two)he is the head guy of all of the service area! he called my mom back 10 min after we dropped it off to tell us that he was taking the transmission out of another 2k2 6 speed on the lot and putting it in my car!!!!! CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT? and to top it off it will be ready tomorrow!!! I WAS LIKE NO WAY!!! so in the end it turned out for the best!!! i talked to some people that know their stuff about transmissions and they said that it sounds like they didnt torque the nut holding the gears in place on and when i turned they shifted and it threw 6th gear really bad!!! i was mad but now glad i am gettin the new tranny that i should have gotten in the first place! CRAZY OR WHAT!???? i never thought that i would hear about this none the less experience this ESP in a nissan tranny if i had a ford i would understand!!!! glad im ok!! and glad im gettin a new tranny!!!

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Old Feb 14, 2002 | 03:13 PM
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Get one w/ the HLSD! Good to hear they are backing up their shat.
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 03:17 PM
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whoa, that's the best service that i have heard about dealerships...
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 03:26 PM
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this isn't Nissan
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 05:26 PM
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good good good. I'm so happy for you, although I dont know you.

They better give you new transmission. What dealer is this? Sounds like they got awesome, common sense service.
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 05:26 PM
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If I were you I would want a new car. Thats bull**** what you have to go through.
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 05:34 PM
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Re: IT HAPPEND AGAIN!!!!! but worse! (LONG)

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i just got my 2k2 6 speed back on monday after having 2nd, 3rd and 4th gear replaced!!! i have been driving the car very nice tryin to break in my new clutch! today i was driving down the road and i stop at a stop light and the car will not go into ANY gear
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Will, check into the lemon law....just in case. I think the 3rd time you take a car in for the same repair within 1 year, they HAVE to give you a new car. Not Positive, so check it.

Jared. PS Still gonna be there Saturday at the meet?
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 05:55 PM
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Will, check into the lemon law....just in case. I think the 3rd time you take a car in for the same repair within 1 year, they HAVE to give you a new car. Not Positive, so check it.

Jared. PS Still gonna be there Saturday at the meet?

yeah i have asked about it and this will be the 2nd time in 2 weeks!!! i am gettin a new transmission and if this one messes up than i will definately call the lemon law on them!!! OH NISSAN service sucks!!! i have been through some **** with these people and the guy that is doing this for me accually works at the MAZDA part of the dealership! but he is much better than the other guy i was dealing with!!! he accually didnt call nissan and clear that he was going to switch a tranny from another car!!! he said that he will deal with it later!!! so they r gonna have a brand new 6 speed with no tranny sitting there!!! oh well the guy called back again tonight and said that there is no reason that it will not be ready tomorrow!! he is also doing alignment and rotating my tires like they were supposed to in the first place!!! thanks for the concern everyone! im not lettin nissan push me in a corner we threatned legal action so they know that we arent messing around! i will keep everyone informed about the new tranny and everything!! hope it works out for the best!!

will

OH jared im not gonna ba able to make the meet i got a date with kathryn!!!!! thanks again man!!!
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 06:44 PM
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Something i have also noticed with my 2k2 6 speed.. at times when im stopped at a red light.. the shifter wont go into first gear (or any other gear for that matter).. i hafta depress the the clutch and let the car roll in neutral a couple of inches before it pops in.

two days ago.. i heard the transmission making a grinding sound in second and third gears, so i take it to the nissan dealer and they check it out and say that if it happens again, they'll hafta get me a new tranny. Sounds to me like they've experienced problems with the 6 speed already.
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 06:51 PM
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Something i have also noticed with my 2k2 6 speed.. at times when im stopped at a red light.. the shifter wont go into first gear (or any other gear for that matter).. i hafta depress the the clutch and let the car roll in neutral a couple of inches before it pops in.

two days ago.. i heard the transmission making a grinding sound in second and third gears, so i take it to the nissan dealer and they check it out and say that if it happens again, they'll hafta get me a new tranny. Sounds to me like they've experienced problems with the 6 speed already.
talked tp another dealership and they have had 3 cases of it!!! so its not just me glad to hear that!! mine is just far worse than anyone elses!! get them to check it out but they will most likely tell u they cant duplicate it!

will
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 07:01 PM
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Sounds like a Hyundai story from the 80's.

This is unbelievable.

The %$#%ing flagship, this is unbelievable.

That's why my next car will be something other than a Maxima.
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by 20 MAXIMA 02
Something i have also noticed with my 2k2 6 speed.. at times when im stopped at a red light.. the shifter wont go into first gear (or any other gear for that matter).. i hafta depress the the clutch and let the car roll in neutral a couple of inches before it pops in.

two days ago.. i heard the transmission making a grinding sound in second and third gears, so i take it to the nissan dealer and they check it out and say that if it happens again, they'll hafta get me a new tranny. Sounds to me like they've experienced problems with the 6 speed already.
Nah, a problem with a Nissan tranny? Can't be
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 08:13 PM
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Nah, a problem with a Nissan tranny? Can't be
You trying to imply that its us 17 y/o messing up our cars?? lol.. not tru not tru.. i baby my car.. in the first 2,000 miles i neva reved it over 3,500, never power shifted, and alwayz depressed my clutch all the way before shifting.
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 08:24 PM
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You trying to imply that its us 17 y/o messing up our cars?? lol.. not tru not tru.. i baby my car.. in the first 2,000 miles i neva reved it over 3,500, never power shifted, and alwayz depressed my clutch all the way before shifting.
i reved my car above 3500..... shifted fast but in 2k miles tranny is gone? nope!!! it a problem with the 6 speeds watch out everyone with a 6 speed!

will
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 08:37 PM
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sorry about everything man.

steve's car is fine, AND he drove the thing to the ground, EVERY DAY. chirping third leaving my house was a common occurence

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Old Feb 14, 2002 | 08:41 PM
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Will, thats great that you are getting a new tranny. This is good to know considering Nissan's policy of using rebuilt parts. However, with a 2k2 I don't think Nissan would have a rebuilt tranny available since it has been out for only a few months. I feel sorry for the guy who buys the donor car on the lot. I don't think the dealer will tell him it's on it's 2nd tranny?
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 09:16 PM
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Will, thats great that you are getting a new tranny. This is good to know considering Nissan's policy of using rebuilt parts. However, with a 2k2 I don't think Nissan would have a rebuilt tranny available since it has been out for only a few months. I feel sorry for the guy who buys the donor car on the lot. I don't think the dealer will tell him it's on it's 2nd tranny?
the only reason that they r taking the tranny out of the car on the lot is bc nissan said that the new 2k2 6 speed tranny was on back order for 4 months! the guy knows that he had to do somehting and do something fast!! he made the right choice and if they replace the tranny out of the new one with a new one when they can get it than it would be the same thing in my eyes esp since no one has driven it at all so i think the guy made the right call to keep a customer happy!!! i will ley u guys know tomorrow if the car is ready like they said that it would be! thanks for your support everyone!

will
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 09:31 PM
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Don't get me wrong Will, I agree he did the best thing for you. But from what I've been hearing about the quality of Nissan technicans, I would be ****ed if I found out I spent $30K on a new car that had the tranny R&R. I hope everything goes well with you. If you run into any additional problems, I would demand a new car!
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 09:34 PM
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Don't get me wrong Will, I agree he did the best thing for you. But from what I've been hearing about the quality of Nissan technicans, I would be ****ed if I found out I spent $30K on a new car that had the tranny R&R. I hope everything goes well with you. If you run into any additional problems, I would demand a new car!
OH yes i will!!! this is strike 2!!! strike 3 will be a new car for sure if not a law suit to follow up on!!! this is bad 2 times within 2 1/2 weeks!!! we will see but the new tranny should be fine i hope!!!

will
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 10:12 PM
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I got mine on the same day as Will. I experience some mild "crunching" sometimes albeit not to that extent. I also get the "IwontGoIntoFirstCauseImAbastard" problem too. Oh well, If the dealer doesn't agree I'll just have to play dirty.
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Originally posted by Fazal
"IwontGoIntoFirstCauseImAbastard"
Old Feb 15, 2002 | 07:01 AM
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You trying to imply that its us 17 y/o messing up our cars?? lol.. not tru not tru.. i baby my car.. in the first 2,000 miles i neva reved it over 3,500, never power shifted, and alwayz depressed my clutch all the way before shifting.
Nope, not implying that at all. I've been burned before on Nissan's trannies, they pretty much suck. The only reason I keep buying Nissan's is that the rest of the car is so damn good for the money and I hate Honda.
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See all you needed was a slowtomagic.

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Old Feb 15, 2002 | 09:34 AM
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Georgia Lemon Law

Just in case, Will, this is the Georgia Lemon Law. Note 44-1264, Presumption A, numbers 1 & 2.

Georgia State Lemon Law

44-1261 .
Definitions; exemptions


A. In this article, unless the context otherwise requires: ·

1. "Consumer" means the purchaser, other than for purposes of resale, of a motor vehicle, any person to whom the motor vehicle is transferred during the duration of an express warranty applicable to the motor vehicle or any other person entitled by the terms of the warranty to enforce the obligations of the warranty. ·

2. "Motor vehicle" means a self-propelled vehicle designated primarily for the transportation of persons or property over the public highways.

B. If the motor vehicle is a motor home, the provisions of this article shall apply to the self-propelled vehicle and chassis but does not include those portions of the vehicle designed, used or maintained primarily as a mobile dwelling, office or commercial space.

C. The provisions of this article do not apply to a motor vehicle with a declared gross weight over ten thousand pounds.

44-1262 .
New motor vehicle; repair during express warranty or two years or twenty-four thousand miles

A. If a new motor vehicle does not conform to all applicable express warranties: · 1. A consumer shall report the nonconformity to the manufacturer, its agent or its authorized dealer or issuer of a warranty during the shorter of the following: ·

(a) The term of the express warranty. ·

(b) The period of two years or twenty-four thousand miles following the date of original delivery of the motor vehicle to the consumer, whichever is earlier. ·

2. The manufacturer, its agent or its authorized dealer or the issuer of a warranty shall make those repairs that are necessary to conform the motor vehicle to such express warranties, even if the repairs are made after the expiration of the term or two year period or twenty-four thousand mile limit.

B. This section does not limit in any way the remedies available to a consumer under a new motor vehicle warranty that extends beyond the limits prescribed in this section.

44-1263 .
Inability to conform motor vehicle to express warranty; replacement of vehicle or refund of moneys; affirmative defenses

A. If the manufacturer, its agents or its authorized dealers are unable to conform the motor vehicle to any applicable express warranty by repairing or correcting any defect or condition which substantially impairs the use and value of the motor vehicle to the consumer after a reasonable number of attempts, the manufacturer shall replace the motor vehicle with a new motor vehicle or accept return of the motor vehicle from the consumer and refund to the consumer the full purchase price, including all collateral charges, less a reasonable allowance for the consumer's use of the vehicle. The manufacturer shall make refunds to the consumer and lienholder, if any, as their interests appear. A reasonable allowance for use is that amount directly attributable to use by the consumer before his first written report of the nonconformity to the manufacturer, agent or dealer and during any subsequent period when the vehicle is not out of service by reason of repair.

B. It is an affirmative defense to any claim under this article that either: ·

1. An alleged nonconformity does not substantially impair the use and market value of the motor vehicle. ·

2. Nonconformity is the result of abuse, neglect or unauthorized modifications or alterations of the motor vehicle.

44-1264 .
Reasonable number of attempts to conform motor vehicle to express warranty; presumption

A. It is presumed that a reasonable number of attempts have been undertaken to conform a motor vehicle to the applicable express warranties if either: ·

1. The same nonconformity has been subject to repair four or more times by the manufacturer or its agents or authorized dealers during the shorter of the express warranty term or the period of two years or twenty-four thousand miles following the date of original delivery of the motor vehicle to the consumer, whichever is earlier, but the nonconformity continues to exist. ·

2. The motor vehicle is out of service by reason of repair for a cumulative total of thirty or more calendar days during the shorter of the express warranty term or the two year period or twenty-four thousand miles, whichever is earlier.

B. The term of an express warranty, the two year period and the thirty day period are extended by any period of time during which repair services are not available to the consumer because of any war, invasion, strike, fire, flood or other natural disaster.

C. The presumption prescribed in this section does not apply against a manufacturer unless the manufacturer has received prior direct written notification from or on behalf of the consumer of the alleged defect and has had an opportunity to cure the alleged defect.

44-1265 .
Nonlimitation of rights; refund or replacement not required if certain procedures not followed; attorney fees A. If a manufacturer has established or participates in an informal dispute settlement procedure which complies in all respects with 16 code of federal regulations part 703, section 44-1263 relating to refunds or replacement does not apply to any consumer who has not first resorted to such a procedure.

B. A consumer shall begin an action under this article within six months following the earlier of expiration of the express warranty term or two years or twenty-four thousand miles following the date of original delivery of the motor vehicle to the consumer, whichever is earlier. If a consumer prevails in an action under this article, the court shall award the consumer reasonable costs and attorney fees.

44-1266 .
Notice to dealers and prospective purchasers


A. A manufacturer who has been ordered by judgment or decree to replace or repurchase a motor vehicle pursuant to this article or the repair or replace laws of another state shall, before offering the motor vehicle for resale, attach to the motor vehicle written notification indicating the motor vehicle has been replaced or repurchased. A consumer has a cause of action against any person, who removes the written notification from the motor vehicle, except as provided in subsection B of this section.

B. A motor vehicle dealer, broker, wholesale motor vehicle dealer or wholesale motor vehicle auction dealer as defined in section 28-4301 who offers for sale a motor vehicle that has been replaced or repurchased pursuant to this article or the repair or replace laws of another state shall provide the purchaser with the manufacturer's written notification indicating that the motor vehicle has been replaced or repurchased before completion of the sale. C. It shall constitute an affirmative defense in an action brought pursuant to subsection A of this section against a motor vehicle dealer or an agent of a motor vehicle dealer that the notification described in subsection A of this section was removed by someone other than the dealer or agent without the knowledge of the dealer or agent.
Old Feb 15, 2002 | 11:32 AM
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ok guys today at 12 when i was in school they called my mom and said come adn get it!!!! it has a new tranny, balanced and rotated tires, alignment, washed it and put a full tank of gas!!!! it drives better than ever before! they admited that they missed torquing the bolt in 4th gear!!! they kept their word and i am very pleased!!!! thanks for the help everyone!

will
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I got mine on the same day as Will. I experience some mild "crunching" sometimes albeit not to that extent. I also get the "IwontGoIntoFirstCauseImAbastard" problem too. Oh well, If the dealer doesn't agree I'll just have to play dirty.
I have had the same problem with not going into gear. I have 1200 miles on mine and have pampered it the whole time. Should we start a tally on this somewhere?

By the way, most lemon laws also require action if a car is out of service for more than 14 days in the first 3 years. I would say that a 4 month back order on a tranny would qualify.
Old Feb 15, 2002 | 04:47 PM
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Re: IT HAPPEND AGAIN!!!!! but worse! (LONG)

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he called my mom back 10 min after we dropped it off to tell us that he was taking the transmission out of another 2k2 6 speed on the lot and putting it in my car!!!!! CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT? and to top it off it will be ready tomorrow!!!
Hmm... first off, it takes about 1hr to remove a transmission. You shoulda demanded it in 4hrs. Believe me on this.

2ndly, they would get in A LOT of trouble if they take a tranny off another unsold car. Why? how will they sell that car? Putting another tranny it in? I'm pretty sure there's a HUGE no-no involved in that, a lot of it revolving around legal issues. Especially if the new owner notices.

either way, least it seems like you're getting it taken care of...best of luck.
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ok guys today at 12 when i was in school they called my mom and said come adn get it!!!! it has a new tranny, balanced and rotated tires, alignment, washed it and put a full tank of gas!!!! it drives better than ever before! they admited that they missed torquing the bolt in 4th gear!!! they kept their word and i am very pleased!!!! thanks for the help everyone!

will
Will, heard your ride got hit by some lil' **** with a bb gun??
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ok guys today at 12 when i was in school they called my mom and said come adn get it!!!! it has a new tranny, balanced and rotated tires, alignment, washed it and put a full tank of gas!!!! it drives better than ever before! they admited that they missed torquing the bolt in 4th gear!!! they kept their word and i am very pleased!!!! thanks for the help everyone!

will
lucky bastard.
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Will, heard your ride got hit by some lil' **** with a bb gun??
NO **** i am so ****!N MAD!!!! just got the car back today and boom get shot!!! i stoped at his house and his dad promised to pay for everything! i was so ****ed! WHERE does it stop?

will
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NO **** i am so ****!N MAD!!!! just got the car back today and boom get shot!!! i stoped at his house and his dad promised to pay for everything! i was so ****ed! WHERE does it stop?

will
I think there is a VIN # on the tranny, you should check to see if it matches the VIN # on your car. I am betting they just fixed your tranny, either way, if it works it works.
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NO **** i am so ****!N MAD!!!! just got the car back today and boom get shot!!! i stoped at his house and his dad promised to pay for everything! i was so ****ed! WHERE does it stop?

will
Make sure you get it fixed at Nissan so the paint matches up. Oh yeah, got other places and get estimates to see where is the highest, give him the highest estimate, take it to Nissan and pocket the rest.
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Make sure you get it fixed at Nissan so the paint matches up. Oh yeah, got other places and get estimates to see where is the highest, give him the highest estimate, take it to Nissan and pocket the rest.
HAHA NICE!!! good call i might have to do that!

will
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