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Finally broke into the 14s AND beat a TL-S @ Etown!!

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Old 06-08-2002, 12:12 PM
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Finally broke into the 14s AND beat a TL-S @ Etown!!

I went to Englishtown for the Import Survival Series 3 today and ran pretty consistent ETs in the upper 14s:

Run#1 14.902@92.02 (vs. some previous gen Jetta-16.833)
Run#2 14.976@91.19 (vs. new Tiburon GT V6-16.319@84.77)
Run#3 14.921@91.67 (vs. 3rd gen Mazda 626-17.947)
Run#4 15.002@91.56 (vs. Acura Integra Type R-15.123@94.84)
Run#5 14.919@92.71 (vs. Acura 3.2TL Type S-15.882@88.36)
Disclaimer: Run#5 was a bracket race-This TL ran a 15.33 in a prior run.

Unfortunately, I didn't survive the Survival series too long but I feel better knowing that I can run consistent upper 14s.

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Old 06-08-2002, 12:16 PM
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Auto i presume? Those are some pretty damn good numbers, congrats
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Oh yeah, I forgot that small detail. I do have an auto tranny!
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Great job!

I wish I had the consistency of an automatic. I run from 14.2 to 14.7 depending on launch, tire pressure, temp/humidity, etc.
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Re: Finally broke into the 14s AND beat a TL-S @ Etown!!

Originally posted by F23A4
Run#4 15.002@91.56 (vs. Acura Integra Type R-15.123@94.84)
Run#5 14.919@92.71 (vs. Acura 3.2TL Type S-15.882@88.36)
Disclaimer: Run#5 was a bracket race-This TL ran a 15.33 in a prior
Wow! You actually beat a Type-R...I always wondered if the VQ35 could do that...good to know...and w/an auto too!
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Old 06-08-2002, 12:31 PM
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Re: Re: Finally broke into the 14s AND beat a TL-S @ Etown!!

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Wow! You actually beat a Type-R...I always wondered if the VQ35 could do that...good to know...and w/an auto too!
ITRs typically (with a good driver ofcourse) run high 14s stock and mid 14s with bolt ons.
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Old 06-08-2002, 01:30 PM
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That's true. I'm not certain how good that driver is but he did have what appeared to be a Tanabe or Greddy exhaust. He might have had more boltons but I didn't check his ride out in the staging lanes. (From what I hear, ITRs don't respond as well as GSRs when it comes to bolton mods. Go figure.)
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Originally posted by F23A4
That's true. I'm not certain how good that driver is but he did have what appeared to be a Tanabe or Greddy exhaust. He might have had more boltons but I didn't check his ride out in the staging lanes. (From what I hear, ITRs don't respond as well as GSRs when it comes to bolton mods. Go figure.)
Very true. The best part about an ITR (other than its go kart like handling) is its pull in 3rg gear.
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The ITR driver sucked cuz his trap was higher than yours, but he lost. What a waste of a good car!!
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Originally posted by F23A4
That's true. I'm not certain how good that driver is but he did have what appeared to be a Tanabe or Greddy exhaust. He might have had more boltons but I didn't check his ride out in the staging lanes. (From what I hear, ITRs don't respond as well as GSRs when it comes to bolton mods. Go figure.)
I think it's probably b/c the Type-R is so much better tuned than the GSR. The car that's already fine-tuned will experience less gains from simple basic bolt-ons than a car that is less-tuned...makes sense right?
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Re: Finally broke into the 14s AND beat a TL-S @ Etown!!

nice runs in the Max!

Originally posted by F23A4
Run#5 14.919@92.71 (vs. Acura 3.2TL Type S-15.882@88.36)
Disclaimer: Run#5 was a bracket race-This TL ran a 15.33 in a prior run.


Yep, those TL-S's sure are hitting high-14's all the time

P.S. - were you brake torquing or still just doing a street launch. I notice your traps are up (91-92 now, vs 90 before) so I'll assume you were launching harder.
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Those sound like non type-S numbers to me. That is either a ricer TL-S or a real TL-S with a broken VTEC-engaging actuator (a problem on some TL-S's and CL-S's). BTW, good times.
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Old 06-08-2002, 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by ColgateU
Those sound like non type-S numbers to me. That is either a ricer TL-S or a real TL-S with a broken VTEC-engaging actuator (a problem on some TL-S's and CL-S's). BTW, good times.
Yeah I agree, could be a non-Type-S. BTW, the actuator problems were for the intake manifolds, not the actual VTEC mechanisms. 99% sure of that.
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Hi Steve, Colgate. No, it was a legitimate TL Type S. I had a chance to scope it out prior to the race. (Then again, he could have badged it and thrown on the TLS's 17inchers but, I doubt it.--The only way to know for certain is if I could have seen the 'J32A2' stamped on the block.)

You assumed correct Steve, I was brake torquing this time though I didn't manual shift. As far as my times are concerned, my car felt faster after I got my first oil change 2 weeks ago. All I got was regular Castrol GTX 5W30, nothing special. However, I still think I'm trapping about 1-2mph slower than what I should be.

Triple8, that ITR IS an impressive car. I saw him gaining on me through my peripheral vision but, it was too late (for him). I killed him off the line with a 60' time of 2.266 vs. 2.563 for the ITR. I always wanted an ITR; I still may pickup one used/unabused and pass the Max to my wife.

Also, NEWSFLASH GUYS: Watchout for those TURBO 99-00 CIVIC SIs!! I saw a few there that were running mid-low 13s!!
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Nice ! I had a chance to run against a Turbo Integra, he did 14.6 to my 14.88, not bad considering how much money he pumped into his piece of Garb....Go Auto's !
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Originally posted by kloogy
Nice ! I had a chance to run against a Turbo Integra, he did 14.6 to my 14.88, not bad considering how much money he pumped into his piece of Garb....Go Auto's !
A turbo Integra should be in the mid to low 13s. Heck I saw one that was in the high 12s. Something was obviously out of kilter on the one you ran. A normal GSR runs mid to high 15s and a stock ITR runs mid to high 14s.
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Ive got the time slip ! ........ It was not a GS-R ..
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Old 06-09-2002, 12:26 AM
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Originally posted by kloogy
Ive got the time slip ! ........ It was not a GS-R ..
I'm not doubting you in the least, I'm just saying thats what the car is capable of. Most people turbo the RS/LS non-VTEC models so they can run higher boost. As everyone knows, putting together a turbo is a hairy situation, so he may not have been running at full potential or he may have been the worlds worst driver.
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Originally posted by kloogy
Nice ! I had a chance to run against a Turbo Integra, he did 14.6 to my 14.88, not bad considering how much money he pumped into his piece of Garb....Go Auto's !
That Integra need some dyno tuning. Those things are quick when tuned right. When I was dynoing my car, there was a turbo Civic being dynoed. It was putting down 180 fwhp, with very little tuning. Thats a lot of power for a car thats lightweight.
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look at the ITR's trap speed, almost 95mph, was the ITR u ran modded, im thinking it was modded just he had a horrible launch or something.
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Originally posted by SkylineGTR
look at the ITR's trap speed, almost 95mph, was the ITR u ran modded, im thinking it was modded just he had a horrible launch or something.
I killed him off the line:

Me:
R/T - .622
60' - 2.266
330' - 6.326
1/8 - 9.672
1000' - 12.557
1/4 - 15.002@91.56

Him:
R/T - .771
60' - 2.563
330' - 6.705
1/8 - 9.987
1000' - 12.765
1/4 - 15.123@94.84
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looking at those numbers looks like the ITR was reeling u a little before halfway, guess the 2k2 top end isnt as fast as i had originally thought, nice run tho, especially for auto, and nice launch, last i remember 2k2 were a little difficult to launch with all that torque.
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