Getting Tires Saturday!!!.....Is the size 225/50-17 the only size I can get for OEM
Originally posted by y2kse
Sorry, Tom2891 and Hasoose. The only tires I've heard about in 225/50R17 are the Nitto 450s, the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S and, of course, the OEM Bridgestone Potenzas RE-92s that nobody seems to like.
Sorry, Tom2891 and Hasoose. The only tires I've heard about in 225/50R17 are the Nitto 450s, the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S and, of course, the OEM Bridgestone Potenzas RE-92s that nobody seems to like.
http://www.vulcantire.com/ze512_t.htm
THey look ok.
The Pilot A/S seems to be the only other alternative, the rest of the group are dogs (Goodyear RSAs, RE-92s, etc).
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Originally posted by Tom2891
They are being marketed by a number of the online dealers see the attached
http://www.vulcantire.com/ze512_t.htm
THey look ok.
The Pilot A/S seems to be the only other alternative, the rest of the group are dogs (Goodyear RSAs, RE-92s, etc).
They are being marketed by a number of the online dealers see the attached
http://www.vulcantire.com/ze512_t.htm
THey look ok.
The Pilot A/S seems to be the only other alternative, the rest of the group are dogs (Goodyear RSAs, RE-92s, etc).
Nitto 450s cost around $115.00 each. They're available through Discount Tires:
www.discounttire.com
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Re: why are you guys edgeing him on?
Originally posted by darrick
you know what the facts are he breaks it down for you at least once a week are guys doing this to pi$$ him off? LOL..lock this
you know what the facts are he breaks it down for you at least once a week are guys doing this to pi$$ him off? LOL..lock this
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Originally posted by Adrenaline Rush
If someone really wants to go with a 235 width tire, why not go 235/50/17? Slightly larger overall diameter but according to TireRack/Pirelli, they're fine for 7" rim (actually approved for a 6.5 as well).
If someone really wants to go with a 235 width tire, why not go 235/50/17? Slightly larger overall diameter but according to TireRack/Pirelli, they're fine for 7" rim (actually approved for a 6.5 as well).
What do you not understand?
Originally posted by K Pazzo 6
ok just got off the phone w/ my girlfriends cousin whos manager @ firestone & he said that he can get me the Michelin Piolt A/S ( http://www.tirerack.com/tires/michel...t_sport_as.jsp ) but they suck in traction...he recommended i go w/ 235/45-17 & get the Potenza S-03 ( http://www.tirerack.com/tires/bridgestone/bs_s03.jsp ) he said these are the best & come stock on the porshe??? I advise him its not recommended going down to that size from what i read here-- he advised me its ok to go 235/45-17 b/c it will even out smaller wall & width? but said if I go 235/50-17 then I might have a problem?? I known him for a good year but dont know if he knows his **** or pull it out of his a$$ this info?? so what do you guys think or you y2kse?
ok just got off the phone w/ my girlfriends cousin whos manager @ firestone & he said that he can get me the Michelin Piolt A/S ( http://www.tirerack.com/tires/michel...t_sport_as.jsp ) but they suck in traction...he recommended i go w/ 235/45-17 & get the Potenza S-03 ( http://www.tirerack.com/tires/bridgestone/bs_s03.jsp ) he said these are the best & come stock on the porshe??? I advise him its not recommended going down to that size from what i read here-- he advised me its ok to go 235/45-17 b/c it will even out smaller wall & width? but said if I go 235/50-17 then I might have a problem?? I known him for a good year but dont know if he knows his **** or pull it out of his a$$ this info?? so what do you guys think or you y2kse?
We can tell you a thousand times that you can put on the 235/45/17's, like most mods, and driving fast no it's not recomended. Make up your damn mind, Y2 and others have provided all the info.
As far as the S02's they are great tires, get them, FOR THR LOVE OF GOD GET THEM.
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Okay what instance? Got the letter or proof? Firestone tires are coming off rims all over, hmmm wonder what the problem is there? That tire was not due to oversized on a rim, most likely a defect in the tire. I know SOOOOOO many people who have put oversized tires on there rims without problems. Especially people with sports cars with over 500hp and they put alot of force on those tires without any problems.
Originally posted by y2kse
I've heard of at least once instance of that happening. Regardless of whether it's happened once or a thousand times, the question I have for those considering running 235/45R17 tires on their 7"-wide rims is very simple: What is your life worth to you? Once again,
NO TIRE MANUFACTURER IN THE WORLD WILL APPROVE RUNNING THEIR 235/45R17 TIRES ON 7"-WIDE RIMS!
Apparently, every tire maker that manufactures 235/45R17 tires feels that a 7.5"-wide rim provides the minimum safety margin for mounting and running their 235/45R17 tires. There isn't a single exception to this rule. Shouldn't that be enough? Or does anyone on this forum actually believe they know more about tire safety than every tire maker in the world?
I've heard of at least once instance of that happening. Regardless of whether it's happened once or a thousand times, the question I have for those considering running 235/45R17 tires on their 7"-wide rims is very simple: What is your life worth to you? Once again,
NO TIRE MANUFACTURER IN THE WORLD WILL APPROVE RUNNING THEIR 235/45R17 TIRES ON 7"-WIDE RIMS!
Apparently, every tire maker that manufactures 235/45R17 tires feels that a 7.5"-wide rim provides the minimum safety margin for mounting and running their 235/45R17 tires. There isn't a single exception to this rule. Shouldn't that be enough? Or does anyone on this forum actually believe they know more about tire safety than every tire maker in the world?
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Re: What do you not understand?
Originally posted by Blackgums100
We can tell you a thousand times that you can put on the 235/45/17's, like most mods, and driving fast no it's not recomended. Make up your damn mind, Y2 and others have provided all the info.
As far as the S02's they are great tires, get them, FOR THR LOVE OF GOD GET THEM.
We can tell you a thousand times that you can put on the 235/45/17's, like most mods, and driving fast no it's not recomended. Make up your damn mind, Y2 and others have provided all the info.
As far as the S02's they are great tires, get them, FOR THR LOVE OF GOD GET THEM.
Moving right along . . .
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Okay what instance? Got the letter or proof? Firestone tires are coming off rims all over, hmmm wonder what the problem is there? That tire was not due to oversized on a rim, most likely a defect in the tire. I know SOOOOOO many people who have put oversized tires on there rims without problems. Especially people with sports cars with over 500hp and they put alot of force on those tires without any problems.
Okay what instance? Got the letter or proof? Firestone tires are coming off rims all over, hmmm wonder what the problem is there? That tire was not due to oversized on a rim, most likely a defect in the tire. I know SOOOOOO many people who have put oversized tires on there rims without problems. Especially people with sports cars with over 500hp and they put alot of force on those tires without any problems.
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Originally posted by y2kse
If you're so sure you're right, Russ, why can't you get one single manufacturer of 235/45R17 tires to agree with you?
If you're so sure you're right, Russ, why can't you get one single manufacturer of 235/45R17 tires to agree with you?
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Because like we all know, the tire manufactures have to put a large safe margin on any product. That is why.
Because like we all know, the tire manufactures have to put a large safe margin on any product. That is why.
TIRE MANUFACTURERS


Well speaking of REAL men, here's one for ya. Why isn't everybody who's currently running 235/45R17 tires on their OEM rims running 245/45R17 tires instead? After all, 245/45R17s and 235/45R17s have exactly the same minimum acceptable rim width . . . 7.5". And 245/45R17s generate less of a speedo error than 235/45R17s.
I'll tell you what I think. I think every single person running 235/45R17 tires on their OEM rims is a PUSSEE. If they had any ***** at all, they'd be running 245/45R17 tires instead!
(Hang on to your hats, folks. I've learned that most REAL men aren't blessed with a plethora of intelligence. It's only a matter of time before one of them shows up here and tries to convince me that 7.5" really isn't 7.5"! Using this revelation as the core of their "logic", they'll then go on to say that it's OK to run 235/45R17 tires on 7.0"-wide rims. But 245/45R17s are too wide.
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Because like we all know, the tire manufactures have to put a large safe margin on any product. That is why.
Because like we all know, the tire manufactures have to put a large safe margin on any product. That is why.
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Originally posted by TimW
yeah, some of us like a margin of safety. Russ is like the John Force of passenger cars. Push it til it breaks, oooops, nevermind.
yeah, some of us like a margin of safety. Russ is like the John Force of passenger cars. Push it til it breaks, oooops, nevermind.
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Originally posted by K Pazzo 6
even though i dont know jack about tires, i do know safety is an issue of mine...so I'm going w/ michelin pilot 225/50-17....thanks everyone for the info--
even though i dont know jack about tires, i do know safety is an issue of mine...so I'm going w/ michelin pilot 225/50-17....thanks everyone for the info--
No regrets...
There is an old addage that says " if you have a doubt stay conservative " I would say that if you cant make up your mind then play by the book, buy a set of 225-50-17 and you'll be happy. If you would have been a adventurer like some of us the 235-45-17 tires would obviously be on the car at this moment, so instead of loosing your precious hearth beat go buy yourself a set of 225-50-17 and enjoy the ride.
Cheers
AA
Cheers
AA
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Re: No regrets...
Originally posted by doublea
. . . loosing your precious hearth beat . . .
. . . loosing your precious hearth beat . . .
ok bad news for me-- Was just advised that the Michelin Pilot Sport 225/50-17 is on backorder for at least a month!!!
Now I'm taking a road trip 4th of july weekend so I need at least 2 tires b/c 2 of them have bubbles & I like to speed on the highway-- so do any of you know any 'cons' on the Nitto NT-450 Extreme Performance 225/50-17??? Or are they good tires just like the Michelin (I want good traction dry/wet)? Once again these are tires I just need for spring & summer here in chicago b/c I have a separte set of rims & tires for the winter! thanks
Now I'm taking a road trip 4th of july weekend so I need at least 2 tires b/c 2 of them have bubbles & I like to speed on the highway-- so do any of you know any 'cons' on the Nitto NT-450 Extreme Performance 225/50-17??? Or are they good tires just like the Michelin (I want good traction dry/wet)? Once again these are tires I just need for spring & summer here in chicago b/c I have a separte set of rims & tires for the winter! thanks
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Originally posted by K Pazzo 6
ok bad news for me-- Was just advised that the Michelin Pilot Sport 225/50-17 is on backorder for at least a month!!!
Now I'm taking a road trip 4th of july weekend so I need at least 2 tires b/c 2 of them have bubbles & I like to speed on the highway-- so do any of you know any 'cons' on the Nitto NT-450 Extreme Performance 225/50-17??? Or are they good tires just like the Michelin (I want good traction dry/wet)? Once again these are tires I just need for spring & summer here in chicago b/c I have a separte set of rims & tires for the winter! thanks
ok bad news for me-- Was just advised that the Michelin Pilot Sport 225/50-17 is on backorder for at least a month!!!
Now I'm taking a road trip 4th of july weekend so I need at least 2 tires b/c 2 of them have bubbles & I like to speed on the highway-- so do any of you know any 'cons' on the Nitto NT-450 Extreme Performance 225/50-17??? Or are they good tires just like the Michelin (I want good traction dry/wet)? Once again these are tires I just need for spring & summer here in chicago b/c I have a separte set of rims & tires for the winter! thanks
Go for it. You can buy two 450s for the price of one Michelin Pilot Sport A/S.
One other thing:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=129317
Re: Re: No regrets...
Originally posted by y2kse
Say what? I think your speedo error with those 235/40R17s is finally starting to affect your mind, doublea.
Say what? I think your speedo error with those 235/40R17s is finally starting to affect your mind, doublea.
AA
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Re: Re: Re: No regrets...
Originally posted by doublea
There is many polite way to tell someone to not loose is time as well as others, like save your heartbeat or save you saliva... About my 235-40-17 tires, being sarcastic is probably the only thing you can do about it and as a good player I accept the critics.
AA
There is many polite way to tell someone to not loose is time as well as others, like save your heartbeat or save you saliva... About my 235-40-17 tires, being sarcastic is probably the only thing you can do about it and as a good player I accept the critics.
AA
Re: Re: Re: Re: No regrets...
Originally posted by y2kse
No sweat, AA. You can run tires with a minimum acceptable rim width of 8.0" on your OEM 7.0"-wide rims until the day you die . . . which I pray won't be for a very, very long time.
No sweat, AA. You can run tires with a minimum acceptable rim width of 8.0" on your OEM 7.0"-wide rims until the day you die . . . which I pray won't be for a very, very long time.
I think we already had that discussion right... but anyhow dont worry for me thing are pretty damn good, if on top of this you pray for me than it's just good things, so I can only say thank you, man what a good guy you are.
Cheers
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: No regrets...
Originally posted by doublea
I think we already had that discussion right...
I think we already had that discussion right...
but anyhow dont worry for me thing are pretty damn good, if on top of this you pray for me than it's just good things, so I can only say thank you, man what a good guy you are.
Cheers
AA
Cheers
AA
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: No regrets...
Originally posted by y2kse
[B]
Yup. Just want to make sure people who might consider following your lead understand the potential consequences of doing so. I probably wouldn't have said anything about it were it not for the fact that you advertise it in your sig. And this is a tire thread, after all.
Roger that! Peace and love.
[B]
Yup. Just want to make sure people who might consider following your lead understand the potential consequences of doing so. I probably wouldn't have said anything about it were it not for the fact that you advertise it in your sig. And this is a tire thread, after all.
Roger that! Peace and love.
Cheers
AA
Originally posted by K Pazzo 6
ok just got off the phone w/ my girlfriends cousin whos manager @ firestone & he said that he can get me the Michelin Piolt A/S ( http://www.tirerack.com/tires/michel...t_sport_as.jsp ) but they suck in traction...he recommended i go w/ 235/45-17 & get the Potenza S-03 ( http://www.tirerack.com/tires/bridgestone/bs_s03.jsp ) he said these are the best & come stock on the porshe??? I advise him its not recommended going down to that size from what i read here-- he advised me its ok to go 235/45-17 b/c it will even out smaller wall & width? but said if I go 235/50-17 then I might have a problem?? I known him for a good year but dont know if he knows his **** or pull it out of his a$$ this info?? so what do you guys think or you y2kse?
ok just got off the phone w/ my girlfriends cousin whos manager @ firestone & he said that he can get me the Michelin Piolt A/S ( http://www.tirerack.com/tires/michel...t_sport_as.jsp ) but they suck in traction...he recommended i go w/ 235/45-17 & get the Potenza S-03 ( http://www.tirerack.com/tires/bridgestone/bs_s03.jsp ) he said these are the best & come stock on the porshe??? I advise him its not recommended going down to that size from what i read here-- he advised me its ok to go 235/45-17 b/c it will even out smaller wall & width? but said if I go 235/50-17 then I might have a problem?? I known him for a good year but dont know if he knows his **** or pull it out of his a$$ this info?? so what do you guys think or you y2kse?
The Pilot Sport A/S have FANTASTIC traction. And as far as wet traction goes, in my experience, I doubt there is a better tire. It has hit the rainy season here in Florida and the wet traction boggles my mind. Every time I drive them in the rain I am amazed.
The reason he wants you to buy Bridgestone is because that is what Firestone sells. They would have to special order the Pilot Sport.
Buy them somewhere else - especially if he told you they were on back order. I find that hard to believe.
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Originally posted by Max_Gator
Buy them somewhere else - especially if he told you they were on back order. I find that hard to believe.
Buy them somewhere else - especially if he told you they were on back order. I find that hard to believe.
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