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Old Jun 16, 2002 | 09:19 AM
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Sorry, Tom2891 and Hasoose. The only tires I've heard about in 225/50R17 are the Nitto 450s, the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S and, of course, the OEM Bridgestone Potenzas RE-92s that nobody seems to like.
They are being marketed by a number of the online dealers see the attached
http://www.vulcantire.com/ze512_t.htm

THey look ok.

The Pilot A/S seems to be the only other alternative, the rest of the group are dogs (Goodyear RSAs, RE-92s, etc).
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by Tom2891


They are being marketed by a number of the online dealers see the attached
http://www.vulcantire.com/ze512_t.htm

THey look ok.

The Pilot A/S seems to be the only other alternative, the rest of the group are dogs (Goodyear RSAs, RE-92s, etc).
Have you looked at the Nitto Extreme Performance NT-450s? I'm running them on my wife's 2K GXE and so far, so good. They seem to be a very good dry weather tire and a so-so wet weather tire. I live in Los Angeles, so wet weather performance isn't all that important to me.

Nitto 450s cost around $115.00 each. They're available through Discount Tires:

www.discounttire.com
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 10:37 AM
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Re: why are you guys edgeing him on?

Originally posted by darrick
you know what the facts are he breaks it down for you at least once a week are guys doing this to pi$$ him off? LOL..lock this
No one on this forum has the capacity to pi$$ me off, darrick. I learned a long time ago not to take what other people say to me personally. I've also learned that it's better to give a resentment than to get a resentment. But thanks anyway for watching out for me.
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 05:04 PM
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If someone really wants to go with a 235 width tire, why not go 235/50/17? Slightly larger overall diameter but according to TireRack/Pirelli, they're fine for 7" rim (actually approved for a 6.5 as well).
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by Adrenaline Rush
If someone really wants to go with a 235 width tire, why not go 235/50/17? Slightly larger overall diameter but according to TireRack/Pirelli, they're fine for 7" rim (actually approved for a 6.5 as well).
The problem with the 235/50R17 is exactly the same as it is for the 225/50R17 . . . lack of selection!
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 06:39 PM
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What do you not understand?

Originally posted by K Pazzo 6
ok just got off the phone w/ my girlfriends cousin whos manager @ firestone & he said that he can get me the Michelin Piolt A/S ( http://www.tirerack.com/tires/michel...t_sport_as.jsp ) but they suck in traction...he recommended i go w/ 235/45-17 & get the Potenza S-03 ( http://www.tirerack.com/tires/bridgestone/bs_s03.jsp ) he said these are the best & come stock on the porshe??? I advise him its not recommended going down to that size from what i read here-- he advised me its ok to go 235/45-17 b/c it will even out smaller wall & width? but said if I go 235/50-17 then I might have a problem?? I known him for a good year but dont know if he knows his **** or pull it out of his a$$ this info?? so what do you guys think or you y2kse?

We can tell you a thousand times that you can put on the 235/45/17's, like most mods, and driving fast no it's not recomended. Make up your damn mind, Y2 and others have provided all the info.

As far as the S02's they are great tires, get them, FOR THR LOVE OF GOD GET THEM.
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 06:46 PM
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Okay what instance? Got the letter or proof? Firestone tires are coming off rims all over, hmmm wonder what the problem is there? That tire was not due to oversized on a rim, most likely a defect in the tire. I know SOOOOOO many people who have put oversized tires on there rims without problems. Especially people with sports cars with over 500hp and they put alot of force on those tires without any problems.

Originally posted by y2kse

I've heard of at least once instance of that happening. Regardless of whether it's happened once or a thousand times, the question I have for those considering running 235/45R17 tires on their 7"-wide rims is very simple: What is your life worth to you? Once again,

NO TIRE MANUFACTURER IN THE WORLD WILL APPROVE RUNNING THEIR 235/45R17 TIRES ON 7"-WIDE RIMS!

Apparently, every tire maker that manufactures 235/45R17 tires feels that a 7.5"-wide rim provides the minimum safety margin for mounting and running their 235/45R17 tires. There isn't a single exception to this rule. Shouldn't that be enough? Or does anyone on this forum actually believe they know more about tire safety than every tire maker in the world?
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 06:49 PM
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Re: What do you not understand?

Originally posted by Blackgums100



We can tell you a thousand times that you can put on the 235/45/17's, like most mods, and driving fast no it's not recomended. Make up your damn mind, Y2 and others have provided all the info.

As far as the S02's they are great tires, get them, FOR THR LOVE OF GOD GET THEM.
I agree with you, Blackgums100. K Pazzo 6 has enough information at this point to make up his own mind. If there's anything else he needs to know, he can find it in the FAQs and the tire manufacturer's web site.

Moving right along . . .
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 06:51 PM
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Okay what instance? Got the letter or proof? Firestone tires are coming off rims all over, hmmm wonder what the problem is there? That tire was not due to oversized on a rim, most likely a defect in the tire. I know SOOOOOO many people who have put oversized tires on there rims without problems. Especially people with sports cars with over 500hp and they put alot of force on those tires without any problems.

If you're so sure you're right, Russ, why can't you get one single manufacturer of 235/45R17 tires to agree with you?
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 07:08 PM
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Originally posted by y2kse

If you're so sure you're right, Russ, why can't you get one single manufacturer of 235/45R17 tires to agree with you?
Because like we all know, the tire manufactures have to put a large safe margin on any product. That is why.
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 07:14 PM
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Because like we all know, the tire manufactures have to put a large safe margin on any product. That is why.
Yeah. Damn those stupid tire manufacturers. WTF do they know about tire safety anyway? Besides, real men don't concern themselves with safety issues. No REAL man would be caught dead wearing a seat belt, for instance. Sheesh!

TIRE MANUFACTURERS



Well speaking of REAL men, here's one for ya. Why isn't everybody who's currently running 235/45R17 tires on their OEM rims running 245/45R17 tires instead? After all, 245/45R17s and 235/45R17s have exactly the same minimum acceptable rim width . . . 7.5". And 245/45R17s generate less of a speedo error than 235/45R17s.

I'll tell you what I think. I think every single person running 235/45R17 tires on their OEM rims is a PUSSEE. If they had any ***** at all, they'd be running 245/45R17 tires instead!

(Hang on to your hats, folks. I've learned that most REAL men aren't blessed with a plethora of intelligence. It's only a matter of time before one of them shows up here and tries to convince me that 7.5" really isn't 7.5"! Using this revelation as the core of their "logic", they'll then go on to say that it's OK to run 235/45R17 tires on 7.0"-wide rims. But 245/45R17s are too wide. )
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 10:20 PM
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Does anybody know how the Pilot A/S's handle in snow? Yes, I live in Canada.

Also, from the picture I'm assuming the Pilots are uni-directional as well, am I right in this?

Thanks
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 11:24 PM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac


Because like we all know, the tire manufactures have to put a large safe margin on any product. That is why.
yeah, some of us like a margin of safety. Russ is like the John Force of passenger cars. Push it til it breaks, oooops, nevermind.
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 11:34 PM
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yeah, some of us like a margin of safety. Russ is like the John Force of passenger cars. Push it til it breaks, oooops, nevermind.
Old Jun 17, 2002 | 01:38 PM
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even though i dont know jack about tires, i do know safety is an issue of mine...so I'm going w/ michelin pilot 225/50-17....thanks everyone for the info--
Old Jun 17, 2002 | 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by K Pazzo 6
even though i dont know jack about tires, i do know safety is an issue of mine...so I'm going w/ michelin pilot 225/50-17....thanks everyone for the info--
You've made an excellent choice, K Pazzo 6. You should be very happy with them.
Old Jun 17, 2002 | 03:40 PM
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No regrets...

There is an old addage that says " if you have a doubt stay conservative " I would say that if you cant make up your mind then play by the book, buy a set of 225-50-17 and you'll be happy. If you would have been a adventurer like some of us the 235-45-17 tires would obviously be on the car at this moment, so instead of loosing your precious hearth beat go buy yourself a set of 225-50-17 and enjoy the ride.

Cheers

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Old Jun 17, 2002 | 04:12 PM
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Re: No regrets...

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. . . loosing your precious hearth beat . . .
Say what? I think your speedo error with those 235/40R17s is finally starting to affect your mind, doublea.
Old Jun 18, 2002 | 02:37 PM
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ok bad news for me-- Was just advised that the Michelin Pilot Sport 225/50-17 is on backorder for at least a month!!! Now I'm taking a road trip 4th of july weekend so I need at least 2 tires b/c 2 of them have bubbles & I like to speed on the highway-- so do any of you know any 'cons' on the Nitto NT-450 Extreme Performance 225/50-17??? Or are they good tires just like the Michelin (I want good traction dry/wet)? Once again these are tires I just need for spring & summer here in chicago b/c I have a separte set of rims & tires for the winter! thanks
Old Jun 18, 2002 | 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by K Pazzo 6
ok bad news for me-- Was just advised that the Michelin Pilot Sport 225/50-17 is on backorder for at least a month!!! Now I'm taking a road trip 4th of july weekend so I need at least 2 tires b/c 2 of them have bubbles & I like to speed on the highway-- so do any of you know any 'cons' on the Nitto NT-450 Extreme Performance 225/50-17??? Or are they good tires just like the Michelin (I want good traction dry/wet)? Once again these are tires I just need for spring & summer here in chicago b/c I have a separte set of rims & tires for the winter! thanks
The Nitto 450 is an acceptable dry weather tire. It won't grip like the Michelin, but it's definitely better than your OEM Potenzas. And Nitto 450s wear like iron!

Go for it. You can buy two 450s for the price of one Michelin Pilot Sport A/S.

One other thing:

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=129317
Old Jun 18, 2002 | 03:13 PM
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And Nitto 450s wear like iron!
is this a good or bad thing?
Old Jun 18, 2002 | 05:03 PM
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Re: Re: No regrets...

Originally posted by y2kse

Say what? I think your speedo error with those 235/40R17s is finally starting to affect your mind, doublea.
There is many polite way to tell someone to not loose is time as well as others, like save your heartbeat or save you saliva... About my 235-40-17 tires, being sarcastic is probably the only thing you can do about it and as a good player I accept the critics.


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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 05:27 PM
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Originally posted by K Pazzo 6


is this a good or bad thing?
Yup. That means they last practically forever.
Old Jun 18, 2002 | 05:34 PM
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Re: Re: Re: No regrets...

Originally posted by doublea


There is many polite way to tell someone to not loose is time as well as others, like save your heartbeat or save you saliva... About my 235-40-17 tires, being sarcastic is probably the only thing you can do about it and as a good player I accept the critics.


AA
No sweat, AA. You can run tires with a minimum acceptable rim width of 8.0" on your OEM 7.0"-wide rims until the day you die . . . which I pray won't be for a very, very long time.
Old Jun 18, 2002 | 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by y2kse

No sweat, AA. You can run tires with a minimum acceptable rim width of 8.0" on your OEM 7.0"-wide rims until the day you die . . . which I pray won't be for a very, very long time.

I think we already had that discussion right... but anyhow dont worry for me thing are pretty damn good, if on top of this you pray for me than it's just good things, so I can only say thank you, man what a good guy you are.

Cheers

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Old Jun 18, 2002 | 06:03 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: No regrets...

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I think we already had that discussion right...
Yup. Just want to make sure people who might consider following your lead understand the potential consequences of doing so. I probably wouldn't have said anything about it were it not for the fact that you advertise it in your sig. And this is a tire thread, after all.

but anyhow dont worry for me thing are pretty damn good, if on top of this you pray for me than it's just good things, so I can only say thank you, man what a good guy you are.

Cheers

AA
Roger that! Peace and love.
Old Jun 19, 2002 | 05:27 AM
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Originally posted by y2kse
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Yup. Just want to make sure people who might consider following your lead understand the potential consequences of doing so. I probably wouldn't have said anything about it were it not for the fact that you advertise it in your sig. And this is a tire thread, after all.


Roger that! Peace and love.
I never suggested that others follow me, my situation is particular in a way that I never ordered that tire size 235-40-17 but I ended up with those installed on my car and there was nothing I could do about it, but anyway I'm going to buy a new set of 18" x 8.5 wheel sometimes this years, so for the time being I will live with those until I get my new wheel. BTW there was nothing sarcastic in my last mail, I really though what I said, your a good guy and every efforts you make to help people having a secure ride is a good thing, no doubt about it.

Cheers

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Old Jun 19, 2002 | 06:12 AM
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ok just got off the phone w/ my girlfriends cousin whos manager @ firestone & he said that he can get me the Michelin Piolt A/S ( http://www.tirerack.com/tires/michel...t_sport_as.jsp ) but they suck in traction...he recommended i go w/ 235/45-17 & get the Potenza S-03 ( http://www.tirerack.com/tires/bridgestone/bs_s03.jsp ) he said these are the best & come stock on the porshe??? I advise him its not recommended going down to that size from what i read here-- he advised me its ok to go 235/45-17 b/c it will even out smaller wall & width? but said if I go 235/50-17 then I might have a problem?? I known him for a good year but dont know if he knows his **** or pull it out of his a$$ this info?? so what do you guys think or you y2kse?
Your contact is on crack.

The Pilot Sport A/S have FANTASTIC traction. And as far as wet traction goes, in my experience, I doubt there is a better tire. It has hit the rainy season here in Florida and the wet traction boggles my mind. Every time I drive them in the rain I am amazed.

The reason he wants you to buy Bridgestone is because that is what Firestone sells. They would have to special order the Pilot Sport.

Buy them somewhere else - especially if he told you they were on back order. I find that hard to believe.
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Buy them somewhere else - especially if he told you they were on back order. I find that hard to believe.
Believe it, Max_Gator. The Pilot Sport A/S in 225/50R17 is, in fact, on backorder.
Old Jun 19, 2002 | 03:27 PM
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Believe it, Max_Gator. The Pilot Sport A/S in 225/50R17 is, in fact, on backorder.
2nd that.. no 225/50/17 available until later next months

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