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Old Jun 15, 2002 | 12:07 PM
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Different strokes for different folks, bro!! These domestics hold the same type of appeal for their owners as our Maximas and Altimas do for us.
Kinda sad, isn't it?

I was behind a Taurus SHO...the last ones they made. What a funky rear spoiler...then I started thinking about how the thing has a tiny v8 in it. Kinda cool I guess. The car didn't look ALL THAT BAD...of course, it was no maxima. What the hell were they thinking when they put that little wing on there? How fast are those last gen SHO's anyhow? I know they're only auto which is too bad.
Old Jun 15, 2002 | 12:11 PM
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yeah I can keep up with those n/a 3800 series II no problem off the line.
But an Accord V6 can't
Old Jun 15, 2002 | 12:34 PM
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There is actually an Intrepid forum!!!!LOL
I know, I couldn't believe it either! You know I was looking at people websites on www.cardomain.com. Just for kicks, I checked, and yup...there are homepages of people with pimped up Geos!!! Crazy...
Old Jun 15, 2002 | 12:57 PM
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But an Accord V6 can't
really? I can actually spin my tires harder/longer than my friend's regal if I wanted to he got the na 3.8 series II.
Old Jun 15, 2002 | 03:55 PM
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Different strokes for different folks, bro!! These domestics hold the same type of appeal for their owners as our Maximas and Altimas do for us.
Oh, I agree; but I drove a 1986 Buick Riviera back when they were new for 5 years before I went to the "import side" (a 1991 Mazda 929 S). After that, there was no going back...don't get me wrong...the Buick was fine once they figured out how to keep it running for me, oh, only after about 90,000 miles I could drive it without fear of it stopping in the middle of the road on me. I never looked back.

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Old Jun 15, 2002 | 04:31 PM
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Years ago, I owned a 1997 Eagle Vision TSI. Don't remember if it was a 3.3 or 3.5. It was a fully loaded Intrepid badged as an Eagle. HP was somewhere around 224. It was a heavy car, it was hella F@#@$king fast. It CAN NOT compete with a 2K2, or 2K3, it has lots of high end power. One of the few mods available is an intake. It can give a 2K or 2K1 a run for its money. As for the Altima owner that smoked one, stop flaming, there is no way in hell you could touch it, maybe if you dropped the VQ3.5 from the new Alty and a 6 spd. Now, b4 you guys start flame wars, quality control on the car was absolutely awful. Having owned an 200 Accord V6 Coupe b4 my Max, Nissan is way far behind Honda. 45K on the Accord, not a single problem. Biggest selling tool of my Max is that VQ. Even after all the numerous TSB's on the 2K2, and 2K, I'm trying to get my best friend to buy one. I'm looking at possibly buying a 2K3 myself. Max is a damn fine car, but that heavy Intrepid is a great car for the $$$.
Old Jun 15, 2002 | 05:13 PM
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don't worry, i posted a **** them off message
Old Jun 15, 2002 | 08:59 PM
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Hehe, it's starting to get fun over there. I think I'll start posting up on a more regular basis from now on. Trolling might be fun.
Old Jun 15, 2002 | 09:18 PM
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I had one as a rental once.
It sucked.
I had removed the stock air box to give ti some extra kick.
What kick?

The car is boat. Weighs much more then a max.
It has no power.
It eats gas like rosie eats bacon.

They suck.
Whoever find that dude and smoke him.
Get the respect and the pink slip
Old Jun 15, 2002 | 09:55 PM
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Intrepid = Arrogance

Why do 90% of intrepid owners thing that they have b@ll$ the size of church bells ??? Why do people put those 2 stripes down their dodges, to me it looks retarted. I guess thats for people who couldn't decide between 2 colors, so they used them both. Any Maxima could blow his doors off easy !
Old Jun 15, 2002 | 10:55 PM
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Ode to Rental.
A HaiKu by yongjun.

Originally posted by yongjun
I had one as a rental once.
It sucked.
I had removed the stock air box to give ti some extra kick.
What kick?

The car is boat. Weighs much more then a max.
It has no power.
It eats gas like rosie eats bacon.

They suck.
Whoever find that dude and smoke him.
Get the respect and the pink slip
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 08:28 AM
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Ode to Rental.
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Old Jun 16, 2002 | 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by Maxmann
I see people in these intrepids, 300M's, Bonnevilles, Grand Prix's and, please, Taurus SE's,that appear to think they really have something special and I think "why".
The 300M is a special ride. It may not be as fast and sporty as a Max, but it is more luxurious than a Max. It's put together better than most domestics and it's a head turner. Like others have said, it's what you want in a car.
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 09:24 AM
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What a bunch of idiots! The Intrepid is a POS.
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 10:40 AM
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that guy is really retarded, he called us rice & look @ his car
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 11:04 AM
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Stock for stock I think a 300M would be a good race. It's definately one of the best domestic cars. Built very well.
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 11:16 AM
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For 2002 Nissan SE sutos I have heard everything from 6.4 to 6.8 0 to 60... I would conservatively say that my car with the K&N drop in filter (almost a non-factor) and my H&R springs (which have made a noticable difference in reducing wheelspin and torque steer off the line and help the car maintain stability so the front end doesn't come up on hard launches) I am running a 6.6 0 to 60 right now. I have no timeslips yet, but just from comparing kills and general feel off the line I am pretty certain I am in the mid-6's... But don't flame me 'cuz I don't have timeslips...
You're pretty much right for the 0 to 60 time. My G-Tech Pro measured 6.46 seconds for my 0 to 60 time. 1/4 mile was 14.99. I have an auto.
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by Virus
Stock for stock I think a 300M would be a good race. It's definately one of the best domestic cars. Built very well.
There's a new "special" 300M out...Actually looks kinda nice. I think they may have upped the HP a little too. The one I saw had a two-tone body scheme...the base trim was painted a darker color.

As far as my opinion goes...I think those cars are crap. Chrysler has some of the worst build quality on the market. Maybe in a few years when the whole Mercedes merge takes full affect...but for now, I can't see many of those cars lasting more than 5 years. I owned a Jeep...1st and last chrysler product I'll own in this decade. My g-friend owned two neons...ugh. Now, not saying the 300M is in the same ballpark, but the underlying mechanics are there...and that was the biggest problem. Oh, and you think Nissan dealership service is bad? haha.


Now as for the stripe thing...well, that's just an american kick-back to old muscle car days. I think it's cool in a cheesy way. I wouldn't do it to my car, but I do like seeing people out there who are bold enough to paint two thick stripes down their car. Give em some credit.
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 03:35 PM
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Originally posted by 2M0A0X2
don't worry, i posted a **** them off message
And I bet that makes you a very big man.

Good old adaptabl starting crap wherever he goes. Why don't you stay over on this board since that is where you belong.

I won't pretend that I could beat the new Maxima or Altima 3.5SE, but than again maybe I could. Why? Well, if the driver doesn't know how to drive, he's toast. All I have to do is change gearing in my car and my 0-60 and 1/4 mile times are on par with the new Maxima and Altima 3.5SE. As for handling, a professional driver said that the Dodge Intrepid R/T was on par with the BMW M5 (maybe he was on crack, or maybe he wasn't). You said us Intrepid owners are "mis-informed". Well, it looks like you Nissan owners are also "mis-informed". Speaking of being "mis-informed", the 2000 Dodge Intrepid ES has 202hp with the 2.7L, but most ES models have the 3.2L with 224hp. Also, as for the new Dodge Neon coming out, it's not an SXT. It is an SRT-4 with a turbo charged engine with a 0-60 time of 5.5-5.9 seconds.

As far as what looks like crap and what doesn't, hey, it's personal preference. You may think an Intrepid is the most ugly thing you ever saw. Good for you. I could care less. Don't drive one. I personally think the new Maxima and Altima look like complete crap, especially the factory pre-riced clear outs.

But like someone said before, "different strokes for different folks". Live with it. I sure have.
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 03:52 PM
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Originally posted by Warlord187



I won't pretend that I could beat the new Maxima or Altima 3.5SE, but than again maybe I could. Why? Well, if the driver doesn't know how to drive, he's toast. All I have to do is change gearing in my car and my 0-60 and 1/4 mile times are on par with the new Maxima and Altima 3.5SE. As for handling, a professional driver said that the Dodge Intrepid R/T was on par with the BMW M5 (maybe he was on crack, or maybe he wasn't).
Jeez where do you people come from...Comparing a FWD Intrepid to a performance sedan such as a M5. Thats a disgrace for the M5 to be mentioned in the same sentence as a Interpid R/T. As for beating a new Maxima or Altima 3.5 FAT CHANCE.
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by MAX2000JP


Jeez where do you people come from...Comparing a FWD Intrepid to a performance sedan such as a M5. Thats a disgrace for the M5 to be mentioned in the same sentence as a Interpid R/T. As for beating a new Maxima or Altima 3.5 FAT CHANCE.
Re-read my post. The person doing the comparison WASN'T ME, but a PROFESSIONAL DRIVER!!!!!!!

As for beating a Maxima or Altima 3.5SE, open that little mind of yours. With intake and exhaust mods and the Prowler Pro Gear, a 1/4 mile time in the low 14's is reachable.
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by Warlord187


Re-read my post. The person doing the comparison WASN'T ME, but a PROFESSIONAL DRIVER!!!!!!!

As for beating a Maxima or Altima 3.5SE, open that little mind of yours. With intake and exhaust mods and the Prowler Pro Gear, a 1/4 mile time in the low 14's is reachable.
Thats shaving 1.25+ seconds off your time to run with a 6 speed Maxima. I can open my mind, but not that much. To achieve low 14's in an Intrepid you are gonna need NOS in large amounts.

As for the professional driver who was quoted saying that, he should not be allowed to write. I have never read any C&D, R&T, or MT article that even remotely compares the Intrepid R/Ts handling to an M5.
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 05:14 PM
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Originally posted by MAX2000JP


Thats shaving 1.25+ seconds off your time to run with a 6 speed Maxima. I can open my mind, but not that much. To achieve low 14's in an Intrepid you are gonna need NOS in large amounts.

As for the professional driver who was quoted saying that, he should not be allowed to write. I have never read any C&D, R&T, or MT article that even remotely compares the Intrepid R/Ts handling to an M5.
I bet someone said that about a mini-van, until a turbocharged Dodge Caravan ran the 1/4 in the 12s.

As for the magazines, I don't put much stock into what they say. They seem to be biased towards imports, except when it comes to trucks. The magazines also say the R/T runs the 1/4 mile in 16 flat. I have NEVER seen an R/T run that slow.

But hey. I can't prove myself to be right at the moment because I don't currently have the funds to do the mods. Oh darn.

But in the end I didn't get this car for the ***** out speed. If I wanted ***** out speed, I would have gotten a sports car. I got this car for it's looks, it's comfort, it's romminess, and mix that in with some good performance. But to each their own.
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 05:56 PM
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Stop trying to defend that SLOW POS. The crackhead that started to post drives a POS black skunk looking Intrepid. 2.7,3.3,3.2,3.5 I don't care, they are all S.L.O.W stock. I don't care how "gusty" That puny little 2.7 is on the highway, 2xxHP will only go so far to pull that heavy POS. 3.3 is friggen weak ***. the 3.2 can't even keep up with the 5th gen Maxima, town or highway. The 3.5 has trouble keeping up with the Maxima down low and still has a hard time keepig up on the highway. You can't redefind the laws of physics. I've ran against all flavors. You hear that? ALL FLAVORS of Intrepids and it always ends up with me showing my *** to them.

Why are you hear? You think our cars look like crap? GET THE HECK OUTTA HERE! This is a Maxima forum; you either respect it or LEAVE! Some of us went onto your site? Great! If you have a problem with that, take it up with them instead of starting crap over here. I saw the post, and their post seem legit about the Maxima whooping on that American Ricer that guy has. The nerve of him calling our cars rice. My car can whip the crap outta that skunk. Comming over here and defending the Intrepid, isn't that the same thing those Maxima owners are doing? Your doing the same thing they are. Talk about Hypocrit (sp)

You have a problem with me calling YOUR car a POS and flaming you? Great, but this is a MAXIMA forum. Respect it or GET OUT! Now go tell your little "homies" in that stupid Forum of yours what I jsut said. What a stinkin Baby!

Again, stop trying to defend what that car can do. Your giving that car too much credit. Face it, realise it, get on with your life. Don't try to preach about another car on here. Wow you have mods that can bring you into the 14's Our cars can run low 14's all day and still be reliable down the road. We also have mods to bring us into the 12's but are we braggin about that on YOUR forum? NOPE.

Have a nice day
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 06:01 PM
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Originally posted by Warlord187


Re-read my post. The person doing the comparison WASN'T ME, but a PROFESSIONAL DRIVER!!!!!!!

As for beating a Maxima or Altima 3.5SE, open that little mind of yours. With intake and exhaust mods and the Prowler Pro Gear, a 1/4 mile time in the low 14's is reachable.
You open that little mind of yours. Any car can be modded. Just say bye to that Maxima or Altima because you'll be seeing its *** the whole way.

Are you for real? Your one funny character. Intrepid vs. M5 in handle. Geesh. If you think its farfetched, why did you quote it in the first place? Oh I know why, because you think its true and we're all dumbasses with no clue about the automotive world on here and we believe EVERYTHING!
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by Warlord187


And I bet that makes you a very big man.

Good old adaptabl starting crap wherever he goes. Why don't you stay over on this board since that is where you belong.

I won't pretend that I could beat the new Maxima or Altima 3.5SE, but than again maybe I could. Why? Well, if the driver doesn't know how to drive, he's toast. All I have to do is change gearing in my car and my 0-60 and 1/4 mile times are on par with the new Maxima and Altima 3.5SE. As for handling, a professional driver said that the Dodge Intrepid R/T was on par with the BMW M5 (maybe he was on crack, or maybe he wasn't). You said us Intrepid owners are "mis-informed". Well, it looks like you Nissan owners are also "mis-informed". Speaking of being "mis-informed", the 2000 Dodge Intrepid ES has 202hp with the 2.7L, but most ES models have the 3.2L with 224hp. Also, as for the new Dodge Neon coming out, it's not an SXT. It is an SRT-4 with a turbo charged engine with a 0-60 time of 5.5-5.9 seconds.

As far as what looks like crap and what doesn't, hey, it's personal preference. You may think an Intrepid is the most ugly thing you ever saw. Good for you. I could care less. Don't drive one. I personally think the new Maxima and Altima look like complete crap, especially the factory pre-riced clear outs.

But like someone said before, "different strokes for different folks". Live with it. I sure have.
And I bet that makes you a very big man.

Good old adaptabl starting crap wherever he goes. Why don't you stay over on this board since that is where you belong.

I won't pretend that I could beat the new F1 formula cart or a airplane, but than again maybe I could. Why? Well, if the pilot or driver doesn't know how to drive, he's toast. All I have to do is change gearing in my car and my 0-60 and 1/4 mile times are on par with the the fastest object on earth. As for handling, a professional driver said that the maxima type R was on par with the formula F1 cart (maybe he was on crack, or maybe he wasn't). You said us maxima owners are "mis-informed". Well, it looks like you dodge owners are also "mis-informed". Speaking of being "mis-informed", the 2000 nissan maxima has 222hp with the 3.0L before 2001, but most 3.5 models have the 3.5L with 255hp duh!.

As far as what looks like crap and what doesn't, hey, it's personal preference. You may think an maxima is the most ugly thing you ever saw. Good for you. I could care less. Don't drive one. I personally think the new intepid and formula f1 cart look like complete crap, especially the factory pre-riced stickers & strips.

But like someone said before, "different strokes for different folks". Live with it. I sure have.

j/k
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 06:08 PM
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Whats funny is the guy who posted something like this on that forum.

0-60 time for the 2.7 is 10.0? YEAH RIGHT! It should be more like 8.7 seconds. LOL Or that the 2.7 is a beast on the highway LOL!!

OMG you intrepid owners are SOOOOOOO Mis informed.

Stock real Drivers
Best 2k2 6speed 14.2
Best 2k2 4auto 14.5
Best 2k-2k1 5speed 14.7
Best 2k-2k1 4auto 15.4 or 15.6 but you know the automatic 2k-2k1 is a real highway beast LOL

Magazine time of the Maxima GXE per Edmunds...
0-60 7.3
1/4 mile 15.6

Bet you didn't know that huh? Yeah right, WE ARE SOOOO MISINFORMED Get out unless you have something constructive to say.
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by Warlord187



But hey. I can't prove myself to be right at the moment because I don't currently have the funds to do the mods. Oh darn.

Then STFU

We bought or cars because we like them. You hate how ours looks? Great but you don't belong to this forum! Again, GET OUT!
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 06:34 PM
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Funny. I never once attacked anyone on this board. Thanks for putting words in my mouth. I said that my opion was the Maxima and Altima were butt ugly. Hey, we all have our own opinions and you people sure have expressed them on this board and the Intrepid board. Am I here to only say that the Maxima and Altima are butt ugly. Hell no. I added that statement onto my other statements. Why am I here? To defend the Intrepid against the very people who claim to be informed, but truly aren't. Why can't you believe the Intrepid R/T is on par handling with the M5? Because your close mindedness won't let you.

Thanks for giving me magazine stats on your cars. Like I said before I don't put much stock in magazine stats, so thanks for proving nothing.

It is obvious that you people are closed minded. I could care less if a Maxima or Altima can beat an R/T. Big friggin deal. So you people go ahead and keeping driving ****.

And if you don't like me over on your board, than stay the **** off of ours.

As for the guy who has that black with white stripes Intrepid, I've been laughing at his **** since the day he joined the forum board.
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 06:38 PM
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Originally posted by ScreamingVQ

You have a problem with me calling YOUR car a POS and flaming you? Great, but this is a MAXIMA forum. Respect it or GET OUT! Now go tell your little "homies" in that stupid Forum of yours what I jsut said. What a stinkin Baby!
Unlike some people on this forum, I don't need to go crying to all my fellow "homies".

As for respect...respect is earned. This board lost it right after the first post by one of you arseholes on DI.net.
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We bought or cars because we like them.
Great. Same here. But obviously that doesn't stop you from ragging on an Intrepid.
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 07:00 PM
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Funny. I never once attacked anyone on this board. Thanks for putting words in my mouth. I said that my opion was the Maxima and Altima were butt ugly. Hey, we all have our own opinions and you people sure have expressed them on this board and the Intrepid board. Am I here to only say that the Maxima and Altima are butt ugly. Hell no. I added that statement onto my other statements. Why am I here? To defend the Intrepid against the very people who claim to be informed, but truly aren't. Why can't you believe the Intrepid R/T is on par handling with the M5? Because your close mindedness won't let you.

Thanks for giving me magazine stats on your cars. Like I said before I don't put much stock in magazine stats, so thanks for proving nothing.

It is obvious that you people are closed minded. I could care less if a Maxima or Altima can beat an R/T. Big friggin deal. So you people go ahead and keeping driving ****.

And if you don't like me over on your board, than stay the **** off of ours.

As for the guy who has that black with white stripes Intrepid, I've been laughing at his **** since the day he joined the forum board.
I only gave ONE magazine stat. Learn how to read. The rest are from out drivers. Your the one closed minded. You know why I think the R/T's handling isn't on par with the M5? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T! There right there, your giving it TOOOOOOO much credit. Deal with the people on your board instead of comming on here and *****ing about it. Your basically doing what they are doing. You seem to have a problem with a few Maxima's folks going into your site to set some of you guys straight, yet you come here and pushing yourself to their level.

Stop trying to defend that POS already. Its handling is NOT on an M5 level.
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Unlike some people on this forum, I don't need to go crying to all my fellow "homies".

As for respect...respect is earned. This board lost it right after the first post by one of you arseholes on DI.net.
Its obvious you dont so why don't you find the door and leave.
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 07:05 PM
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Great. Same here. But obviously that doesn't stop you from ragging on an Intrepid.
Now your getting it...

I'll rag on that POS until you stop pulling stuff out of your ***, stop defending such a useless topic that you already know your gonna get whooped, and give the maxima respect and credit where its due or until you leave.

You know why I don't respect Intrepid's? Because owners like YOU and the other person on your board. Your thinking to highly of your car.

Face it, our cars will rip your car a new ******* so stop trying to say "but with this mod BLAH BLAH!"
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 07:12 PM
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Originally posted by Chimp Dj
Smithtown Nissan was at LI Motorsportspark, and they will verify a 16.5 time for a bone stock 3.5 intrepid...and a old 3.3 intrepid that ran 17.2, and some impressive one wheel burnouts...

They brought out 2k2 Altima + 2k2 maxima both autos...

14.72 for Altima

14.97 for Maxima

Different drivers, and times ranged from mid 15s to the best times of the day.

I wish I drove the 2k2 Maxima auto that day...
but no!!! According to the Intrepid defender (HAHA) the 3.5 will do quicker than 16's that Car and Driver got. This is an even slower time and it must NOT be beleived

I'm glad you posted this actually.

I've seen 3.3's get worst times. I can even whoop on them with the old 3g VG auto
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Originally posted by Warlord187
Why can't you believe the Intrepid R/T is on par handling with the M5? Because your close mindedness won't let you.

Thanks for giving me magazine stats on your cars. Like I said before I don't put much stock in magazine stats, so thanks for proving nothing.
IF you ACTUALLY BELIEVE that statement, you need help. There is NO way that the handling of the Intrepid R/T is on par with a M5. Take it to a track it will be funny how badly the Intrepid gets beat. Come on now, Its cool to have pride in your car, but dont come up with BS. Your statement has provided me with countless laughs even when trying to be "open minded".
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 07:14 PM
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Originally posted by Warlord187
I never once attacked anyone on this board.
Gee I don't know, telling us to open our minds gee...

You should take your own advice.
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by MAX2000JP


IF you ACTUALLY BELIEVE that statement, you need help. There is NO way that the handling of the Intrepid R/T is on par with a M5. Take it to a track it will be funny how badly the Intrepid gets beat. Come on now, Its cool to have pride in your car, but dont come up with BS. Your statement has provided me with countless laughs even when trying to be "open minded".
No crap LOL I laugh at what he says everytime I read it.

If the intrepid can handle like an M5, the Maxima must handle like a Ferrari 360 Modena
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 08:28 PM
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It's great to see that we can all bind together and bash a car that not only have many on this board never drive, or for that matter owned. That car is not a piece POS, like the Maxima is NOT butt ugly.
I owned a Honda B4 my MAX and can easily tell you. WAKE UP BOYS, our MAX(as much as it is a great bang for the buck), it's not god's gift to earth. I can do nothing but laugh at those Intrepid owners that compare(even in their mind), their righteous ride to an M5, dream on. I love my Max, but can do nothing but laugh when org members compare it to an E46 three series(maybe we are a bunch of sick dreamers too). Bottom line this thread proves how ignorant many of us can be when others seem to flame, or compare their cars to ours. I would consider it flattering to have others envy our cars. If you fellows bother to read the original thread, the poster was put in his place in regard to our car being faster than his. Let's not let ignorance take over our board. Let's keep this board great.
Old Jun 16, 2002 | 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by ScreamingVQ



If the intrepid can handle like an M5, the Maxima must handle like a Ferrari 360 Modena
thats what I said

sometimes I'm "open minded" like him



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