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Old 06-14-2002 | 03:17 PM
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Problem Help Me Out!!!!!!

hey guys whats up i just installed some tockicko blues and some eibach springs and my ride is so damn bouncy it sucks, the reason i think the problem is occuring is because the ***** i bought em off cut them so they would be a 2 inch drop!!! I cant even lift my car on a normal jack because the springs are so small the guy told me at the place i put them on!! I need to know if its the springs that are to short that are making it bouncy or if it is is the tockickos? PLEASE LET ME KNOW!!!!!!
Old 06-14-2002 | 03:25 PM
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hey guys whats up i just installed some tockicko blues and some eibach springs and my ride is so damn bouncy it sucks, the reason i think the problem is occuring is because the ***** i bought em off cut them so they would be a 2 inch drop!!! I cant even lift my car on a normal jack because the springs are so small the guy told me at the place i put them on!! I need to know if its the springs that are to short that are making it bouncy or if it is is the tockickos? PLEASE LET ME KNOW!!!!!!
ouch man, one thing u need to know about eibachs is that the first two inches (or slightly less maybe 1 7/8") of spring travel is somewhat soft. once those few inches are passed the spring rate become extemley aggressive(as u can tell) and flattens out the car while cornering, braking, accel, ect.... but u have lost and inch of that softness and the end result is a set of springs that are basically acting as if they were compressed. just my .02 if im wrong some1 please clear this up then, but im pretty sure i know what im talkin about, goodluck.
Old 06-15-2002 | 01:40 AM
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ouch man, one thing u need to know about eibachs is that the first two inches (or slightly less maybe 1 7/8") of spring travel is somewhat soft. once those few inches are passed the spring rate become extemley aggressive(as u can tell) and flattens out the car while cornering, braking, accel, ect.... but u have lost and inch of that softness and the end result is a set of springs that are basically acting as if they were compressed. just my .02 if im wrong some1 please clear this up then, but im pretty sure i know what im talkin about, goodluck.
So what do you think i should do just reorder the front two springs and everything should be ok?
Old 06-15-2002 | 01:53 AM
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Standard test for bad/or wrong adjustment if adjustable shocks is to push down on that corner and count how many times car bounces up and down. If it's 2 the shocks are bad. Springs are hard or soft. Without the shocks they'd ALL bounce. Probaly not your springs.
Old 06-15-2002 | 02:18 AM
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Originally posted by azhelipilot
Standard test for bad/or wrong adjustment if adjustable shocks is to push down on that corner and count how many times car bounces up and down. If it's 2 the shocks are bad. Springs are hard or soft. Without the shocks they'd ALL bounce. Probaly not your springs.
See but they are not adjustable so now what do you think?
Old 06-15-2002 | 02:54 AM
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Well they are gas filled --- which are harder to check if their's any gas left in them. Any oil leaking out by shock shaft ?? Shocks do two things. Dampen any displacement motion and control how fast that displacement is. Shocks do this for bounce and jounce. On no adjustment shocks theirs some happy medium. Performance shocks or plain steet shocks. For instance you could have super stiff shocks and the tire would have to take that bump, and then would jar the car. Or soft shock that would let the wheel bounce all the way up to the stops and that would jar the car. BUT the only time the car would keep bouncing along is if their was no dampening control from the shock. Maybe bouncing is not what you ment ??
Old 06-15-2002 | 02:58 AM
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Maybe you need to turn down your stereo, your Maxima might just be dancing to the music...

Anyways, I seriously doubt it's your Tokicos. I just installed Blues yesterday and the ride is very nice... No bouncing. Why don't you try stock springs temporarily (front only, or rear only) and see if the "bounce" goes away. If it does get new springs, if it doesn't then you have a shock problem.
Old 06-15-2002 | 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by melteye
Maybe you need to turn down your stereo, your Maxima might just be dancing to the music...

Anyways, I seriously doubt it's your Tokicos. I just installed Blues yesterday and the ride is very nice... No bouncing. Why don't you try stock springs temporarily (front only, or rear only) and see if the "bounce" goes away. If it does get new springs, if it doesn't then you have a shock problem.
hmm, i honestly think it's the Tokicos. You hit one dip and boom you'll feel it. Maybe it's cuz I was too used to the SE stock shocks. Kevin even warned me but I had already bought it when he did.
Old 06-15-2002 | 03:47 PM
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Then why doesn't mine bounce... heh
Old 06-15-2002 | 03:58 PM
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If you re-read his first post, it seems he bought them used from someone else. The cut springs probably came from a ricer car. Might want to get new springs.
Old 06-15-2002 | 04:03 PM
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If you read his post he said he thinks its the Tokicos... He didn't say he bought them used.
Old 06-15-2002 | 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by melteye
Maybe you need to turn down your stereo, your Maxima might just be dancing to the music...

Anyways, I seriously doubt it's your Tokicos. I just installed Blues yesterday and the ride is very nice... No bouncing. Why don't you try stock springs temporarily (front only, or rear only) and see if the "bounce" goes away. If it does get new springs, if it doesn't then you have a shock problem.
ok lets try to clear up a little confusion here, first of all is this a bounce like ur driving a mattress with long bounces up and down that dont seem to be controled, or is it the bounce im thinking of as in it feels like ur riding on a dirt road and everything is shaking really bad. if the problem is the first one i stated then u got bad shocks (and no tockickos are not adjustable). u can test them the way azhelipilot described by just goin up to a corner or ur car and pushing down on that corner and see if it bounces more then 1 1/2 times, then that also means u got bad shocks. ask the person u bought it off of how old they are (tockickos come with a lifetime warranty is i remember correctly) but if ur driving around and it feels like ur eyes are all scrambled up becasue u cant see straight due to the ride, then im gonna suspect its the cut spring, but try as stated above my melteye and throw in the stock springs and see if the bounce goes away (at this point its just trial and error) but i seriously think its the cut eibachs that are causing the problem. goodluck
Old 06-15-2002 | 04:51 PM
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Originally posted by melteye
If you read his post he said he thinks its the Tokicos... He didn't say he bought them used.
Lookee here, fool:

]Originally posted by maximarolla
i think the problem is occuring is because the ***** i bought em off cut them so they would be a 2 inch drop!!!
I don't think you can cut tokicos to add to the drop. From the way he stated it, it sounds like he bought them used. Besides, later in the post he says

I need to know if its the springs that are to short that are making it bouncy or if it is is the tockickos?
So go read it again.
Old 06-15-2002 | 07:07 PM
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The cut springs are whats making your ride seem not right. Cut springs should only be used for show, not every day driving.

Why do you think the spring manufacturers pay engineeres 6 figure salaries to design products for them? They don't design them to be cut, thats for sure.
Old 06-15-2002 | 08:41 PM
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Lookee here, fool:

I don't think you can cut tokicos to add to the drop. From the way he stated it, it sounds like he bought them used. Besides, later in the post he says

So go read it again.
well my F****** bad dude, so i misread one thing sooo sorry, i dont reacall u posting one thing in here to help anything out, im just givin my .02 if u dont like it just igonore it. dont call some1 u dont know a fool and start instigating bs with me any1 cant act anyway online.... im just tryin to help the guy out by sayin its the springs, i never stated the tok's were cut, only the springs were stated cut what are u talkin about the tok's were cut. til this day i still havent met one idiot thats tried to cut shocks to drop a car.
Old 06-15-2002 | 09:41 PM
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Originally posted by 2K1HoMax


well my F****** bad dude, so i misread one thing sooo sorry, i dont reacall u posting one thing in here to help anything out, im just givin my .02 if u dont like it just igonore it. dont call some1 u dont know a fool and start instigating bs with me any1 cant act anyway online.... im just tryin to help the guy out by sayin its the springs, i never stated the tok's were cut, only the springs were stated cut what are u talkin about the tok's were cut. til this day i still havent met one idiot thats tried to cut shocks to drop a car.
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Just to clear up things guys, i said my eibachs are cut and my tockicoes are brand new!!!!!!!!!!
Old 06-15-2002 | 09:45 PM
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Just to clear up things guys, i said my eibachs are cut and my tockicoes are brand new!!!!!!!!!!
then bottom line i think its the cut springs, i stated why in the first post i made. from this point on its all u. ive personally never heard of tockicoes effecting a ride that way. like i said good luck.
Old 06-15-2002 | 09:54 PM
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Originally posted by 2K1HoMax


well my F****** bad dude, so i misread one thing sooo sorry, i dont reacall u posting one thing in here to help anything out, im just givin my .02 if u dont like it just igonore it. dont call some1 u dont know a fool and start instigating bs with me any1 cant act anyway online.... im just tryin to help the guy out by sayin its the springs, i never stated the tok's were cut, only the springs were stated cut what are u talkin about the tok's were cut. til this day i still havent met one idiot thats tried to cut shocks to drop a car.
Sorry man, I wasn't responding to you, I was responding to melteye. He gave me 'tude first, so I had to give some back!
Old 06-15-2002 | 10:02 PM
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Sorry man, I wasn't responding to you, I was responding to melteye. He gave me 'tude first, so I had to give some back!
its cool, u just didnt specifly who u were targeting so i thought u were flamin on me for no reason, then mybad. it justs anoying watching poeple argue online when knowing the other person is 1000miles away it makes no sense. in person alot of people will just shrink. anyway like i said mybad i thought u were refering to me.
Old 06-15-2002 | 10:27 PM
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Originally posted by 2K1HoMax


its cool, u just didnt specifly who u were targeting so i thought u were flamin on me for no reason, then mybad. it justs anoying watching poeple argue online when knowing the other person is 1000miles away it makes no sense. in person alot of people will just shrink. anyway like i said mybad i thought u were refering to me.
It's all good Let's all give peace a chance.
Old 06-15-2002 | 11:03 PM
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I agree with njmaxseltd, springs are designed for a specific spring rate, and once they are modified/cut they will not work the way they were designed.

Bottom line, replace the cut springs and your ride should not bounce anymore.
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