My friend has been going on about the benefits of American Muscle. How well can a 2003 Max do against a stock Corvette after modding the Max to the price level of a Z06?

 

Ah, okay. Race one and find out

 

Considering those things turn a 3.9 sec 0-60, a 12.4 sec/116 mph 1/4 mile,
(http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/index_features.htm)

I am not sure of any mod to a Max that can compete, the low end torque will be a killer off the line, high end...forget it, and any curves in the road.... For over $20K in 'mods' I would imagine so many things would have to change or just plain be ripped out and replaced that it might not really be a Max anymore, at least not a very steetable one.

Just a thought...

 

yep, jjs is right

its like taking an apple and making an orange out of it

you think its possible? nope, i don't think so

 

No way in hell. Can't be done.

 

He will rip you a new one. Not to be mean, but think what you are asking about. A $50-60,000 sports car vs. a 4dr sedan. Yeah, we can make them faster to a point, but it's still not a sports car. I should add that if this stock vette is an older one, you might keep up better, but if it's a newer one, good night.

 

I believe the M5 is a 4-door sedan. Skylines come in turbo 4-door versions also

 

I hope that you are not serious

 

I recognize your sarcasm, Jeff.

 

Don got 12.2 out of a '95 max

 

well, to a certain extent, all things are possible. if you can get the power/weight ratios just right... who knows? after all, a turbo'd civic DID beat a corvette.

 

It can be done. Immediately, you would have to bulletproof the bottom end of the engine, install new "everything" for engine components and then install NOS spraying at 175 and Supercharging it with 16lbs of boost. As long as the tranny doesnt blow, which it probably will, you may be able to take him.. It would probably yeild close to 600hp, while its being sprayed, with all the engine and exhaust mods.

 

Not possible? Come on fellas. He mentioned a rediculous budget in his post anwyays. For as little as $1600 you can make a 2002 or 2003 Maxima beat a stock C5. And for little or no more you can beat a C5 Z06.
This is only for the cost of a proper Nitrous system and a set of ET drag slicks with rims.

 

I might side with SR20DEN. Given the, relatively, limitless budget ($20K), you could do some serious damage with a custom supercharger coupled with a N02 system. Do the right suspension modifications and you might have a Z06. Put the car on the ground with coilovers, tie up the suspension all around with STBs and SBs, etc., etc. However, the big question is...

WHY?

 

 

Becasue you can. And the total cost is still thousands less than the price of a Z06.

 

I agree with SR20, although I'm not sure you can get there with just nitrous.

Also, what's the big deal - why give the guy a hard time.

He didn't say he was going to race a Z06 - he said stock vette.

If he asked - what would it take for me to run low 13s (and I've got 20k to spend). I'm certain there would be lots of input.

By the way, did you guys forget about Kev? Didn't he run sub 13s? MardiGras too?

 

Im doing low 13's with just Nitrous. What will it take to do 12's? Just some drag slicks and maybe a little more Nitrous.

 

Well, my friend is planning to get a '03 z06 'vette.
He said all the mods in the world on a max can't beat a stock 'vette. So I figured a good starting price would be if the Max was modded to the price of a z06, which would be around $20k.

the question instead of a "Why?" becomes of an "If."

(If we got the *****, we'ed be racing cops too...)

 

Yeah, and what he really means is "I just paid $50,000 for this car PLEASE don't let the 4 door Jap sedan beat me!!". If I paid that much for a car I would be hopefull that I wouldn't get beaten by a Maxima either. I hope he is in touch with reality. Have you seen the video of the 12 second Dodge Caravan spanking the Z28?

Don has already run a 12.2 @ 108 on Nitto drag radials. His best trap speed is 116mph. That is sufficient to beat a Z06 and I seriously doubt he has all the mods in the world.

 

Where can I see this video?

 

I think he posted it when he was selling the max.

 

shame on me for not reading your sig.

 

I couldnt find the link but since it's such a small video I will post it.

Here

I know what the guy in the Z28 is doing

 

It all comes down to..."why would someone put soo much money into a FRONT wheel drive car"

 

The only thing I hate about my Max , is it's front wheel drive, as far as why you would buy a Chevy, look at a Z06, drive one, and you will have an answer to your question.

Also , most Zo6 vette's are not quite stock, Ive seen some running a squirt of laughing gas, with Drag Radials in the 11's..

 

a z06 isn't stock???

 

Owning one of each I can tell you it would not be worth it. If your Max is your only car you really can not have both. The Vette launches like a rocket with Posi and 1.5 second 60 ft. Big torque.
I assume it is a rehtorical question?

 

Semantically you are correct. However, a z06 is a modified version of the normal production version. I could have been more precise.

I'll be reading your posts carefully from now on craaaazzy.

 

This thread is just plain rediculous. You are comparing two opposite things. A Z06 vs Maxima, come on now. A Z06 properly driven will always be faster than a Maxima. Guys at the track were talking about seeing a STOCK Z06 run 12.3 if I remember correctly on stock tires a week before I went. Straight line performance isnt everything. Throw some turns into the equation and this thread becomes even funnier.

 

Anyone would be insane to mess with a Z06 , even with an SC, I can see you still getting spanked. I raced a regular 2K1 vette, and it spanked the LIGHTS out of me. I knew I would lose, I just wanted to see how badly. Even if you modded your Max to smoke one in the 1/4, the Vette handles so great, that in a road course, you are TOAST !

 

I agree with Kloogy...I thought this thread was a joke at first...Nothing can outhandle the Z06 and for God's sake we are comparing a freaking 24k mid sized sedan with a World Class sports car. The ONLY Nissan that would have a chance stock against a z06 in both the auto-cross and 1/4th would be the Twin turbo skyline, and even then it would probubly still lose.

Let's compare our minima's to lesser vehicles, like Impala's, Marauders, Anything honda, Acura's,....but Z06's? No.

 

U better do some serious mods to your max cause that vette will ripp u a new one. Supercharger, some extra spice (at least a 100 shot) and u should be good to go

 

Thats not true. What about Vipers and other exotics???

 

If the Maxima was Rear wheel drive then HIGH boost + bolt ons + Slicks would make us contenders, but we are FWD, which is the worst for straight line acceleration. I don't see it happening.

 

No kidding...How about a Miata?

 

Vipers used to not handle that great. I know they have made them better and the new 2003 Viper would probubly come very close. There are things that probubly can come close and even tie the Z06, but is there anything that can OUThandle it?

 

My man, if a FWD mini-van spanked a Z28, then the Max has a chance against a Vette.

 

And is that Minivan streetable? I think we are talking a Maxima that could still easily be a daily driver, not a drag machine. For instance if Don in Texas got ahold of a 2k2 Max and sooped that b!tch up, a stock Z06 could easily be toast.

 

Delfino Feroce, AWD kick-a$$ Italian exotic. I think an NSX would out-handle a Vette on a good day as well.