FreshAlloy says AWD !!
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FreshAlloy says AWD! - and it *IS* Possible!
Believe it or not, it *IS* possible to have AWD with a front, transversely-mounted engine. This is how the Murano SUV is setup, and according to FreshAlloy...
http://www.freshalloy.com/site/cars/...iew/home.shtml
The Honda Pilot SUV also has a transversely mounted engine with AWD.
The Honda CR-V also has a transversely mounted engine with FWD or AWD.
The Toyota Highlander also has a transversely mounted engine with FWD or AWD.
If the Gen6 really is going to have AWD, my hope is that it is only a PART-TIME system. The reason for this is that if you are putting power through multiple differentials and axles, you are losing more overall power to the wheels. And AWD car that is only part-time, will only drive a single set of differentials and axles and wheels (less overall losses) and will be faster from a roll than a full-time AWD car.
A Part-Time AWD system would give the Maxima the traction and control that it needs when coming off the line hard, along with the ability to handle inclement weather better, along with the efficiency and better overall power at the wheels that a FWD system offers when already moving on dry ground.
So I think a Part-Time AWD system would be the best of both worlds for the Maxima
http://www.freshalloy.com/site/cars/...iew/home.shtml
With AWD and 6 speed manual, the new Maxima moves up the market (leaving the Altima to fight the Camry and Accord). Expected competition includes the Audi A6 and some might dare say BMW's 5 series. And don't forget Chyrsler's upcoming rear wheel drive LH derived (350M?) cars.
The Honda CR-V also has a transversely mounted engine with FWD or AWD.
The Toyota Highlander also has a transversely mounted engine with FWD or AWD.
If the Gen6 really is going to have AWD, my hope is that it is only a PART-TIME system. The reason for this is that if you are putting power through multiple differentials and axles, you are losing more overall power to the wheels. And AWD car that is only part-time, will only drive a single set of differentials and axles and wheels (less overall losses) and will be faster from a roll than a full-time AWD car.
A Part-Time AWD system would give the Maxima the traction and control that it needs when coming off the line hard, along with the ability to handle inclement weather better, along with the efficiency and better overall power at the wheels that a FWD system offers when already moving on dry ground.
So I think a Part-Time AWD system would be the best of both worlds for the Maxima
Re: FreshAlloy says AWD! - and it *IS* Possible!
Originally posted by SteVTEC
Believe it or not, it *IS* possible to have AWD with a front, transversely-mounted engine. This is how the Murano SUV is setup, and according to FreshAlloy...
http://www.freshalloy.com/site/cars/...iew/home.shtml
The Honda Pilot SUV also has a transversely mounted engine with AWD.
The Honda CR-V also has a transversely mounted engine with FWD or AWD.
The Toyota Highlander also has a transversely mounted engine with FWD or AWD.
If the Gen6 really is going to have AWD, my hope is that it is only a PART-TIME system. The reason for this is that if you are putting power through multiple differentials and axles, you are losing more overall power to the wheels. And AWD car that is only part-time, will only drive a single set of differentials and axles and wheels (less overall losses) and will be faster from a roll than a full-time AWD car.
A Part-Time AWD system would give the Maxima the traction and control that it needs when coming off the line hard, along with the ability to handle inclement weather better, along with the efficiency and better overall power at the wheels that a FWD system offers when already moving on dry ground.
So I think a Part-Time AWD system would be the best of both worlds for the Maxima
Believe it or not, it *IS* possible to have AWD with a front, transversely-mounted engine. This is how the Murano SUV is setup, and according to FreshAlloy...
http://www.freshalloy.com/site/cars/...iew/home.shtml
The Honda Pilot SUV also has a transversely mounted engine with AWD.
The Honda CR-V also has a transversely mounted engine with FWD or AWD.
The Toyota Highlander also has a transversely mounted engine with FWD or AWD.
If the Gen6 really is going to have AWD, my hope is that it is only a PART-TIME system. The reason for this is that if you are putting power through multiple differentials and axles, you are losing more overall power to the wheels. And AWD car that is only part-time, will only drive a single set of differentials and axles and wheels (less overall losses) and will be faster from a roll than a full-time AWD car.
A Part-Time AWD system would give the Maxima the traction and control that it needs when coming off the line hard, along with the ability to handle inclement weather better, along with the efficiency and better overall power at the wheels that a FWD system offers when already moving on dry ground.
So I think a Part-Time AWD system would be the best of both worlds for the Maxima
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Possible, Yes.
Going to happen for the 2004 model, No.
I have it on good word from some people who work for said company as engineers that it will start as FWD with the 3.5L V-6 with a little more power than the 02-03.
Stereodude
Going to happen for the 2004 model, No.
I have it on good word from some people who work for said company as engineers that it will start as FWD with the 3.5L V-6 with a little more power than the 02-03.
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Originally posted by Stereodude
Possible, Yes.
Going to happen for the 2004 model, No.
Possible, Yes.
Going to happen for the 2004 model, No.
Originally posted by Stereodude
I have it on good word from some people who work for said company as engineers that it will start as FWD with the 3.5L V-6 with a little more power than the 02-03.
I have it on good word from some people who work for said company as engineers that it will start as FWD with the 3.5L V-6 with a little more power than the 02-03.
Something close to the 350Z engine I would hope!
Originally posted by MaximaPower
if "AWD", would it be faster than the Z? cus if it's slower than the Z that means it'll probably be only as fast as the 5th gen even with AWD and a lil more power??
if "AWD", would it be faster than the Z? cus if it's slower than the Z that means it'll probably be only as fast as the 5th gen even with AWD and a lil more power??
But AWD Maxima would be nice. Everytime in snows here in Boston, I wish I had AWD car.
Re: FreshAlloy says AWD! - and it *IS* Possible!
Originally posted by SteVTEC
Believe it or not, it *IS* possible to have AWD with a front, transversely-mounted engine. This is how the Murano SUV is setup, and according to FreshAlloy...
http://www.freshalloy.com/site/cars/...iew/home.shtml
The Honda Pilot SUV also has a transversely mounted engine with AWD.
The Honda CR-V also has a transversely mounted engine with FWD or AWD.
The Toyota Highlander also has a transversely mounted engine with FWD or AWD.
If the Gen6 really is going to have AWD, my hope is that it is only a PART-TIME system. The reason for this is that if you are putting power through multiple differentials and axles, you are losing more overall power to the wheels. And AWD car that is only part-time, will only drive a single set of differentials and axles and wheels (less overall losses) and will be faster from a roll than a full-time AWD car.
A Part-Time AWD system would give the Maxima the traction and control that it needs when coming off the line hard, along with the ability to handle inclement weather better, along with the efficiency and better overall power at the wheels that a FWD system offers when already moving on dry ground.
So I think a Part-Time AWD system would be the best of both worlds for the Maxima
Believe it or not, it *IS* possible to have AWD with a front, transversely-mounted engine. This is how the Murano SUV is setup, and according to FreshAlloy...
http://www.freshalloy.com/site/cars/...iew/home.shtml
The Honda Pilot SUV also has a transversely mounted engine with AWD.
The Honda CR-V also has a transversely mounted engine with FWD or AWD.
The Toyota Highlander also has a transversely mounted engine with FWD or AWD.
If the Gen6 really is going to have AWD, my hope is that it is only a PART-TIME system. The reason for this is that if you are putting power through multiple differentials and axles, you are losing more overall power to the wheels. And AWD car that is only part-time, will only drive a single set of differentials and axles and wheels (less overall losses) and will be faster from a roll than a full-time AWD car.
A Part-Time AWD system would give the Maxima the traction and control that it needs when coming off the line hard, along with the ability to handle inclement weather better, along with the efficiency and better overall power at the wheels that a FWD system offers when already moving on dry ground.
So I think a Part-Time AWD system would be the best of both worlds for the Maxima
Originally posted by TurDz
I found a different source...look:
http://caranddriver.com/xp/Caranddri...ook_maxima.xml
I found a different source...look:
http://caranddriver.com/xp/Caranddri...ook_maxima.xml
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Originally posted by TurDz
I found a different source...look:
http://caranddriver.com/xp/Caranddri...ook_maxima.xml
I found a different source...look:
http://caranddriver.com/xp/Caranddri...ook_maxima.xml
I find it interesting that the article says prices " starting around $30,000." That's significantly more $$$ than the current max and sure raises the bar on the competition the maxima will have to match up to or better. If Nissan could put the quality back in their vehicles, I might even overlook the exterior design and higher prices.
Remember too that Nissan used east-west engines with AWD on the Bluebird SSS and Pulsar GTi-R many, many moons ago. The next Max has to have a 180/190kW AWD variant in the lineup to be competitive against the locals and gain any respect here in Australia because if it doesn't, and our version looks anything like that photo release, then its dead and buried already.
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Another thing about awd...
It's not very good for performance when there is a front drive bias. You get a good start off the line and bad weather stability, but that's about it. But when you try and push the car, you end up with understeer.
Case in point: The Eclipse/Talon twins, 3000GT/Stealth twins, and the Passat W8 4Motion(the W8 makes understeer even worse) come to mind.
However, a rwd bias can make a car very fun to drive, while keeping the bad weather stablity of awd.
Case in point: Skyline GT-R, Lancer Evolution, Subaru WRX, Jaguar X-Type.
Here's to hoping Nissan does the right thing. Even a 35-front/65-rear split like the Jag would be nice. It'd really throw the competition a curveball, too.
Case in point: The Eclipse/Talon twins, 3000GT/Stealth twins, and the Passat W8 4Motion(the W8 makes understeer even worse) come to mind.
However, a rwd bias can make a car very fun to drive, while keeping the bad weather stablity of awd.
Case in point: Skyline GT-R, Lancer Evolution, Subaru WRX, Jaguar X-Type.
Here's to hoping Nissan does the right thing. Even a 35-front/65-rear split like the Jag would be nice. It'd really throw the competition a curveball, too.
Re: Another thing about awd...
"With AWD and 6 speed manual, the new Maxima moves up the market (leaving the Altima to fight the Camry and Accord). Expected competition includes the Audi A6 and some might dare say BMW's 5 series. And don't forget Chyrsler's upcoming rear wheel drive LH derived (350M?) cars."
I noticed in the article that the Audi A6 was listed as one of the potential competitors. I would find it hard for the Maxima to compete with the Audi's quattro system, when it has a part time AWD system, unlike the way quattro is setup.
I noticed in the article that the Audi A6 was listed as one of the potential competitors. I would find it hard for the Maxima to compete with the Audi's quattro system, when it has a part time AWD system, unlike the way quattro is setup.
Originally posted by Black VQ
It's not very good for performance when there is a front drive bias. You get a good start off the line and bad weather stability, but that's about it. But when you try and push the car, you end up with understeer.
Case in point: The Eclipse/Talon twins, 3000GT/Stealth twins, and the Passat W8 4Motion(the W8 makes understeer even worse) come to mind.
However, a rwd bias can make a car very fun to drive, while keeping the bad weather stablity of awd.
Case in point: Skyline GT-R, Lancer Evolution, Subaru WRX, Jaguar X-Type.
Here's to hoping Nissan does the right thing. Even a 35-front/65-rear split like the Jag would be nice. It'd really throw the competition a curveball, too.
It's not very good for performance when there is a front drive bias. You get a good start off the line and bad weather stability, but that's about it. But when you try and push the car, you end up with understeer.
Case in point: The Eclipse/Talon twins, 3000GT/Stealth twins, and the Passat W8 4Motion(the W8 makes understeer even worse) come to mind.
However, a rwd bias can make a car very fun to drive, while keeping the bad weather stablity of awd.
Case in point: Skyline GT-R, Lancer Evolution, Subaru WRX, Jaguar X-Type.
Here's to hoping Nissan does the right thing. Even a 35-front/65-rear split like the Jag would be nice. It'd really throw the competition a curveball, too.
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Good Lordy...STARTING at $30k? 
If that's the case, I hope that the car darn near has everything standard, much like the Acura TL/CL cars. The only options on them are NAV pretty much. If they try to nickel-dime you up to $40k then FORGET IT!
Anyways...back to AWD...
First off, you can still get Audi A6's w/o Quattro. Secondly, NOBODY knows anything about the AWD system in the Maxima yet. I was just speculating above that a part-time system might be the best of both worlds, since there are also a good number of disadvantages of AWD (esp full-time systems) as well 
If that's the case, I hope that the car darn near has everything standard, much like the Acura TL/CL cars. The only options on them are NAV pretty much. If they try to nickel-dime you up to $40k then FORGET IT!
Anyways...back to AWD...
Originally posted by packetattack
I would find it hard for the Maxima to compete with the Audi's quattro system, when it has a part time AWD system, unlike the way quattro is setup.
I would find it hard for the Maxima to compete with the Audi's quattro system, when it has a part time AWD system, unlike the way quattro is setup.
Thanks for that article SteVTEC..
For all of you that said the Altima is most likely Nissan's next flagship:
HA!
Leave that Alti to fight down in the pits with those other ugly beasts...the king is going back to the top baby!
i still think it's ugly and after a suspension drop everything should be fine...
With AWD and 6 speed manual, the new Maxima moves up the market (leaving the Altima to fight the Camry and Accord)....
At least Nissan is bringing the flagship status back into it's top of the line sedan.
At least Nissan is bringing the flagship status back into it's top of the line sedan.
HA!
Leave that Alti to fight down in the pits with those other ugly beasts...the king is going back to the top baby!
i still think it's ugly and after a suspension drop everything should be fine...
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Originally posted by Stereodude
Possible, Yes.
Going to happen for the 2004 model, No.
I have it on good word from some people who work for said company as engineers that it will start as FWD with the 3.5L V-6 with a little more power than the 02-03.
Stereodude
Possible, Yes.
Going to happen for the 2004 model, No.
I have it on good word from some people who work for said company as engineers that it will start as FWD with the 3.5L V-6 with a little more power than the 02-03.
Stereodude
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Originally posted by SteVTEC
Good Lordy...STARTING at $30k?
If that's the case, I hope that the car darn near has everything standard, much like the Acura TL/CL cars. The only options on them are NAV pretty much. If they try to nickel-dime you up to $40k then FORGET IT!
Good Lordy...STARTING at $30k?
If that's the case, I hope that the car darn near has everything standard, much like the Acura TL/CL cars. The only options on them are NAV pretty much. If they try to nickel-dime you up to $40k then FORGET IT!
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Re: Another thing about awd...
Originally posted by Black VQ
It's not very good for performance when there is a front drive bias. You get a good start off the line and bad weather stability, but that's about it. But when you try and push the car, you end up with understeer.
Case in point: The Eclipse/Talon twins, 3000GT/Stealth twins, and the Passat W8 4Motion(the W8 makes understeer even worse) come to mind.
However, a rwd bias can make a car very fun to drive, while keeping the bad weather stablity of awd.
Case in point: Skyline GT-R, Lancer Evolution, Subaru WRX, Jaguar X-Type.
Here's to hoping Nissan does the right thing. Even a 35-front/65-rear split like the Jag would be nice. It'd really throw the competition a curveball, too.
It's not very good for performance when there is a front drive bias. You get a good start off the line and bad weather stability, but that's about it. But when you try and push the car, you end up with understeer.
Case in point: The Eclipse/Talon twins, 3000GT/Stealth twins, and the Passat W8 4Motion(the W8 makes understeer even worse) come to mind.
However, a rwd bias can make a car very fun to drive, while keeping the bad weather stablity of awd.
Case in point: Skyline GT-R, Lancer Evolution, Subaru WRX, Jaguar X-Type.
Here's to hoping Nissan does the right thing. Even a 35-front/65-rear split like the Jag would be nice. It'd really throw the competition a curveball, too.
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When they say it STARTS at $30,000, the phrase "best bang for the buck" slowly disappears from my head.
I think we've seen the last of the true mohicans (2003 Maxima), it's going to be the Altima now, and the Max is moving up in divisions. Its competition in the $30,000 league is much stiffer, and if they are still cost-cutting, Nissan will be in big trouble.
I can't say that the 6th gen is ugly, but I can say it's not too attractive. It looks like a mix of cars, and definitely does not look sporty, but rather more refined and luxurious. I don't know about the rest of the people, but I'm somewhat disappointed...
I think we've seen the last of the true mohicans (2003 Maxima), it's going to be the Altima now, and the Max is moving up in divisions. Its competition in the $30,000 league is much stiffer, and if they are still cost-cutting, Nissan will be in big trouble.
I can't say that the 6th gen is ugly, but I can say it's not too attractive. It looks like a mix of cars, and definitely does not look sporty, but rather more refined and luxurious. I don't know about the rest of the people, but I'm somewhat disappointed...
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Re: FreshAlloy says AWD! - and it *IS* Possible!
Originally posted by SteVTEC
Believe it or not, it *IS* possible to have AWD with a front, transversely-mounted engine. This is how the Murano SUV is setup, and according to FreshAlloy...
http://www.freshalloy.com/site/cars/...iew/home.shtml
The Honda Pilot SUV also has a transversely mounted engine with AWD.
The Honda CR-V also has a transversely mounted engine with FWD or AWD.
The Toyota Highlander also has a transversely mounted engine with FWD or AWD.
If the Gen6 really is going to have AWD, my hope is that it is only a PART-TIME system. The reason for this is that if you are putting power through multiple differentials and axles, you are losing more overall power to the wheels. And AWD car that is only part-time, will only drive a single set of differentials and axles and wheels (less overall losses) and will be faster from a roll than a full-time AWD car.
A Part-Time AWD system would give the Maxima the traction and control that it needs when coming off the line hard, along with the ability to handle inclement weather better, along with the efficiency and better overall power at the wheels that a FWD system offers when already moving on dry ground.
So I think a Part-Time AWD system would be the best of both worlds for the Maxima
Believe it or not, it *IS* possible to have AWD with a front, transversely-mounted engine. This is how the Murano SUV is setup, and according to FreshAlloy...
http://www.freshalloy.com/site/cars/...iew/home.shtml
The Honda Pilot SUV also has a transversely mounted engine with AWD.
The Honda CR-V also has a transversely mounted engine with FWD or AWD.
The Toyota Highlander also has a transversely mounted engine with FWD or AWD.
If the Gen6 really is going to have AWD, my hope is that it is only a PART-TIME system. The reason for this is that if you are putting power through multiple differentials and axles, you are losing more overall power to the wheels. And AWD car that is only part-time, will only drive a single set of differentials and axles and wheels (less overall losses) and will be faster from a roll than a full-time AWD car.
A Part-Time AWD system would give the Maxima the traction and control that it needs when coming off the line hard, along with the ability to handle inclement weather better, along with the efficiency and better overall power at the wheels that a FWD system offers when already moving on dry ground.
So I think a Part-Time AWD system would be the best of both worlds for the Maxima
Originally posted by vito1281
When they say it STARTS at $30,000, the phrase "best bang for the buck" slowly disappears from my head.
I think we've seen the last of the true mohicans (2003 Maxima), it's going to be the Altima now, and the Max is moving up in divisions. Its competition in the $30,000 league is much stiffer, and if they are still cost-cutting, Nissan will be in big trouble.
I can't say that the 6th gen is ugly, but I can say it's not too attractive. It looks like a mix of cars, and definitely does not look sporty, but rather more refined and luxurious. I don't know about the rest of the people, but I'm somewhat disappointed...
When they say it STARTS at $30,000, the phrase "best bang for the buck" slowly disappears from my head.
I think we've seen the last of the true mohicans (2003 Maxima), it's going to be the Altima now, and the Max is moving up in divisions. Its competition in the $30,000 league is much stiffer, and if they are still cost-cutting, Nissan will be in big trouble.
I can't say that the 6th gen is ugly, but I can say it's not too attractive. It looks like a mix of cars, and definitely does not look sporty, but rather more refined and luxurious. I don't know about the rest of the people, but I'm somewhat disappointed...
I agree with everything....but Im not disappointed.
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Originally posted by Padsy 02 6sp
I agree with everything....but Im not disappointed.
I agree with everything....but Im not disappointed.
) the max has adopted uglier and uglier design cues. The hideous rear on the 5th and now this new one that is just...ugh! I understand the need to continually "make it new," as Ezra Pound exhorted. But you can not just do crazy stuff with a car just to be different. But I tell you one thing, I still believe that new one will sell. Even if it's just because it's different. Few of the owners would be members of this forum, though.I just hate it that the new Mazda 6, even though it may be outclassed performance-wise (haven't read too many reviews yet), may sell even better than the max cause of the killer looks, the available five speed, and at least decent power. (192 ft-lbs 220 hp 3.0 dohc, all for 20 grand)
Despite my playa-hating on the 5th gens, let me just say that I would have a 6 speed 02 or 03 in a second if I could afford one.
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Re: Another thing about awd...
Originally posted by Black VQ
It's not very good for performance when there is a front drive bias. You get a good start off the line and bad weather stability, but that's about it. But when you try and push the car, you end up with understeer.
Case in point: The Eclipse/Talon twins, 3000GT/Stealth twins, and the Passat W8 4Motion(the W8 makes understeer even worse) come to mind.
However, a rwd bias can make a car very fun to drive, while keeping the bad weather stablity of awd.
Case in point: Skyline GT-R, Lancer Evolution, Subaru WRX, Jaguar X-Type.
Here's to hoping Nissan does the right thing. Even a 35-front/65-rear split like the Jag would be nice. It'd really throw the competition a curveball, too.
It's not very good for performance when there is a front drive bias. You get a good start off the line and bad weather stability, but that's about it. But when you try and push the car, you end up with understeer.
Case in point: The Eclipse/Talon twins, 3000GT/Stealth twins, and the Passat W8 4Motion(the W8 makes understeer even worse) come to mind.
However, a rwd bias can make a car very fun to drive, while keeping the bad weather stablity of awd.
Case in point: Skyline GT-R, Lancer Evolution, Subaru WRX, Jaguar X-Type.
Here's to hoping Nissan does the right thing. Even a 35-front/65-rear split like the Jag would be nice. It'd really throw the competition a curveball, too.
Originally posted by Minimalmaxima
I've got to say that I am kinda disappointed. I hope the price estimates are wrong. And, yes, that mug is ug-a-ly. It seems that since the 97-99 (best looking ) the max has adopted uglier and uglier design cues. The hideous rear on the 5th and now this new one that is just...ugh! I understand the need to continually "make it new," as Ezra Pound exhorted. But you can not just do crazy stuff with a car just to be different. But I tell you one thing, I still believe that new one will sell. Even if it's just because it's different. Few of the owners would be members of this forum, though.
I just hate it that the new Mazda 6, even though it may be outclassed performance-wise (haven't read too many reviews yet), may sell even better than the max cause of the killer looks, the available five speed, and at least decent power. (192 ft-lbs 220 hp 3.0 dohc, all for 20 grand)
Despite my playa-hating on the 5th gens, let me just say that I would have a 6 speed 02 or 03 in a second if I could afford one.
I've got to say that I am kinda disappointed. I hope the price estimates are wrong. And, yes, that mug is ug-a-ly. It seems that since the 97-99 (best looking
) the max has adopted uglier and uglier design cues. The hideous rear on the 5th and now this new one that is just...ugh! I understand the need to continually "make it new," as Ezra Pound exhorted. But you can not just do crazy stuff with a car just to be different. But I tell you one thing, I still believe that new one will sell. Even if it's just because it's different. Few of the owners would be members of this forum, though.I just hate it that the new Mazda 6, even though it may be outclassed performance-wise (haven't read too many reviews yet), may sell even better than the max cause of the killer looks, the available five speed, and at least decent power. (192 ft-lbs 220 hp 3.0 dohc, all for 20 grand)
Despite my playa-hating on the 5th gens, let me just say that I would have a 6 speed 02 or 03 in a second if I could afford one.
Originally posted by Minimalmaxima
I just hate it that the new Mazda 6, even though it may be outclassed performance-wise (haven't read too many reviews yet), may sell even better than the max cause of the killer looks, the available five speed, and at least decent power. (192 ft-lbs 220 hp 3.0 dohc, all for 20 grand)
I just hate it that the new Mazda 6, even though it may be outclassed performance-wise (haven't read too many reviews yet), may sell even better than the max cause of the killer looks, the available five speed, and at least decent power. (192 ft-lbs 220 hp 3.0 dohc, all for 20 grand)
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Originally posted by MaximaPower
the 6 will sell more than the max cus it's aimed towards the younger market...it's a sporty car that's at a nice price
the 6 will sell more than the max cus it's aimed towards the younger market...it's a sporty car that's at a nice price
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Originally posted by JeffCatt
I dunno the protege5 and MP3 along with the new Mazdaspeed MP3 were the youth targeted vehicles. Sure the 6 may appeal to younger buyers but so do every BMW and Mercedes. Mazda is trying ot make "Zoom" the whole family can enjoy. Even mom gets "Zoom" remember those Miata/MPV comercials? those were great. They almost convinced me a Mini-van would be cool....
I dunno the protege5 and MP3 along with the new Mazdaspeed MP3 were the youth targeted vehicles. Sure the 6 may appeal to younger buyers but so do every BMW and Mercedes. Mazda is trying ot make "Zoom" the whole family can enjoy. Even mom gets "Zoom" remember those Miata/MPV comercials? those were great. They almost convinced me a Mini-van would be cool....
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Originally posted by Minimalmaxima
Don't laugh, but when we were in our early teens, I had a cousin who dreamed of an astrovan with bowleg wheels, some crazy color paint job, and the little heartbeat sinusoid imulse going down each side. He was going to start a trend. Did somebody beat him to it?
Don't laugh, but when we were in our early teens, I had a cousin who dreamed of an astrovan with bowleg wheels, some crazy color paint job, and the little heartbeat sinusoid imulse going down each side. He was going to start a trend. Did somebody beat him to it?
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