guy on 5th gen max forums wrote that he destroyed an 04 se..
06-07-2003, 01:06 PM
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Originally posted by gmc74
That sounds scientific...
That sounds scientific...
Does your center display suck in bright daylight? Mine is set to max and can be hard to see. Good thing nothing important to see there.
06-07-2003, 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by gmc74
flame war, did someone say flame war??? where? I am so there!
Anyone else have an issue with the dash dimmer on the left side of the dash? Mine seems to slowly dim itself off after a few days.
flame war, did someone say flame war??? where? I am so there!
Anyone else have an issue with the dash dimmer on the left side of the dash? Mine seems to slowly dim itself off after a few days.
06-08-2003, 12:47 AM
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Originally posted by bluemaxx
No but the fuel gage is flaky. When I fill up it goes to 1/2 then will creep to 3/4. After I turn the engine off and restart it will go to full but I've gotten in the next day after fillup and it will be down again.
No but the fuel gage is flaky. When I fill up it goes to 1/2 then will creep to 3/4. After I turn the engine off and restart it will go to full but I've gotten in the next day after fillup and it will be down again.
06-08-2003, 01:58 PM
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Depends. Was it 6 speed SE vs 6 speed SE? Besides, a car and a half from 60 to 130 I wouldn't label as "destroyed" The 02/03 may be a bit faster than the 04, but it shouldn't really matter because they are quite different cars now.
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Originally posted by SERSPECV
he said he raced him from 60 to 130 mph.. and was a car and a half ahead of the 04 se
he said he raced him from 60 to 130 mph.. and was a car and a half ahead of the 04 se
06-09-2003, 05:11 AM
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Originally posted by ch13f
You normally don't take it up to 130 next to another car if you aren't racing.. but anyways. Yeah that outcome sounds about right.
You normally don't take it up to 130 next to another car if you aren't racing.. but anyways. Yeah that outcome sounds about right.
06-09-2003, 07:27 AM
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the aerodynamics and HP should do it. At this speed the extra 200 lbs don't really factor in... besides, the other guy could have eaten a big meal and needs to take a huge dump... that should be worth a couple of lbs
Let's be realistic. Until someone gets a stock 5th gen and a stock 6th gen to a track to run the quarter against each other, this conversation is ridiculous. There are so many variables that could influence a street race, especially one that is started while the cars are already moving. These two cars are extremely close in speed so the slightest jump by one person over the other is going to sway the out come.
Let's be realistic. Until someone gets a stock 5th gen and a stock 6th gen to a track to run the quarter against each other, this conversation is ridiculous. There are so many variables that could influence a street race, especially one that is started while the cars are already moving. These two cars are extremely close in speed so the slightest jump by one person over the other is going to sway the out come.
06-09-2003, 08:07 AM
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Originally posted by gmc74
the aerodynamics and HP should do it. At this speed the extra 200 lbs don't really factor in... besides, the other guy could have eaten a big meal and needs to take a huge dump... that should be worth a couple of lbs
Let's be realistic. Until someone gets a stock 5th gen and a stock 6th gen to a track to run the quarter against each other, this conversation is ridiculous. There are so many variables that could influence a street race, especially one that is started while the cars are already moving. These two cars are extremely close in speed so the slightest jump by one person over the other is going to sway the out come.
the aerodynamics and HP should do it. At this speed the extra 200 lbs don't really factor in... besides, the other guy could have eaten a big meal and needs to take a huge dump... that should be worth a couple of lbs
Let's be realistic. Until someone gets a stock 5th gen and a stock 6th gen to a track to run the quarter against each other, this conversation is ridiculous. There are so many variables that could influence a street race, especially one that is started while the cars are already moving. These two cars are extremely close in speed so the slightest jump by one person over the other is going to sway the out come.
On another note, the 04 claims to have a 20 gallon fuel tank. I've filled mine twice now. Both times the low fuel lamp was on and the DTE said +/- 25 miles with 19ish avg MPG. First fill 15.6, second 16.2. Another thing, after the fill this morning I reset the avg MPG and on my commute the avg MPG was apx 27 but DTE shows 356. Wouldn't 27x20=540 or somewher in that range? Care to speculate?
06-09-2003, 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by bluemaxx
I agree with gmc74 Johnson!
On another note, the 04 claims to have a 20 gallon fuel tank. I've filled mine twice now. Both times the low fuel lamp was on and the DTE said +/- 25 miles with 19ish avg MPG. First fill 15.6, second 16.2. Another thing, after the fill this morning I reset the avg MPG and on my commute the avg MPG was apx 27 but DTE shows 356. Wouldn't 27x20=540 or somewher in that range? Care to speculate?
I agree with gmc74 Johnson!
On another note, the 04 claims to have a 20 gallon fuel tank. I've filled mine twice now. Both times the low fuel lamp was on and the DTE said +/- 25 miles with 19ish avg MPG. First fill 15.6, second 16.2. Another thing, after the fill this morning I reset the avg MPG and on my commute the avg MPG was apx 27 but DTE shows 356. Wouldn't 27x20=540 or somewher in that range? Care to speculate?
I would bet that there is a 2 gallon reserve, or something to that effect. My excursion had 4 gallons left when it said empty.
06-09-2003, 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by gmc74
The most I have put in the tank is 18.5 gallons. I have a bad habit of tempting fate and testing the limits of my gas tank
I would bet that there is a 2 gallon reserve, or something to that effect. My excursion had 4 gallons left when it said empty.
The most I have put in the tank is 18.5 gallons. I have a bad habit of tempting fate and testing the limits of my gas tank
I would bet that there is a 2 gallon reserve, or something to that effect. My excursion had 4 gallons left when it said empty.
. So I am driving and when all of the sudden I felt like car was cutting down power and when the car shut down. It was pretty scary, good thing I wasn't going fast cause brakes are not really responsive when the car shuts down. I pulled over on the side of the road and was ready to call AAA.I decided to try to start the car again, see if it starts, and it did to my suprize. I decied to see if it will drive so I can get to gas station that was like 2 or so miles away. I somehow got to gas stationg and filled up 17.9gals so tank was almost empty.
Not sure if Max has reserve but I am sure got lucky that time.
06-09-2003, 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by Dany
Yeah I think there is like reserve of 2 gallons or something. 2002 Max supposed to have like 18gals I think, and once I was driving and low fuel light was on for a while. I kinda fogot about it. So I am driving and when all of the sudden I felt like car was cutting down power and when the car shut down. It was pretty scary, good thing I wasn't going fast cause brakes are not really responsive when the car shuts down. I pulled over on the side of the road and was ready to call AAA.
I decided to try to start the car again, see if it starts, and it did to my suprize. I decied to see if it will drive so I can get to gas station that was like 2 or so miles away. I somehow got to gas stationg and filled up 17.9gals so tank was almost empty.
Not sure if Max has reserve but I am sure got lucky that time.
Yeah I think there is like reserve of 2 gallons or something. 2002 Max supposed to have like 18gals I think, and once I was driving and low fuel light was on for a while. I kinda fogot about it
. So I am driving and when all of the sudden I felt like car was cutting down power and when the car shut down. It was pretty scary, good thing I wasn't going fast cause brakes are not really responsive when the car shuts down. I pulled over on the side of the road and was ready to call AAA.I decided to try to start the car again, see if it starts, and it did to my suprize. I decied to see if it will drive so I can get to gas station that was like 2 or so miles away. I somehow got to gas stationg and filled up 17.9gals so tank was almost empty.
Not sure if Max has reserve but I am sure got lucky that time.
06-09-2003, 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by 04EliteSE
The readouts for the Trip computer are just estimates.
The readouts for the Trip computer are just estimates.
Therefore the problem is with the gauge and not the float.
06-09-2003, 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by gmc74
I am guessing what it is doing is reading the float and multiplying it by either a set number (possibly the avg mpg, but not likely). Since this is the only way it could possibly know how much fuel is in there, it pretty much has to get info from the float. So if the float was returning a reading of empty, then it would show the *.
Therefore the problem is with the gauge and not the float.
I am guessing what it is doing is reading the float and multiplying it by either a set number (possibly the avg mpg, but not likely). Since this is the only way it could possibly know how much fuel is in there, it pretty much has to get info from the float. So if the float was returning a reading of empty, then it would show the *.
Therefore the problem is with the gauge and not the float.
06-09-2003, 05:12 PM
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Like GMC and a few others said the cars are so even it depends on the driver reactions in most cases. I feel that the 04 SE auto will hang with the 02/03 Autos and the SL will be a tad slower than the 02/03auto. Reason being the 04 SE gained 200 pounds but does have the 5spd auto which is more effecient and the SL still has the 4spd auto with the extra weight.
06-30-2003, 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by SERSPECV
from a role the 04 max should beat the 03 the gearing is better in the 04
from a role the 04 max should beat the 03 the gearing is better in the 04
06-30-2003, 01:12 PM
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Originally posted by JAKE02
Should this and should that....blah blah blah....cant believe no one in here has lined up with a 5th gen......or have they??
Should this and should that....blah blah blah....cant believe no one in here has lined up with a 5th gen......or have they??
I want to see 1/4 track times.
I am going to need to take my car down to the track and see what it does. I think they do it on Fridays, so I will try to give it a run on the 11th.
06-30-2003, 01:16 PM
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yeah u have to take your car to the track.. u have an auto right?? well if u go manuel shift it and do it in just drive.. i am dieing ti know what the new max runs.. especially an auto... 5spd se.. my father has one but he wont go to the track... i did race him saturday from a dead stop up to about 75 or so i think alittle less and he was ahead of me by about 1 car and a half or so and i run a 15.4 at the track with my spec v...
06-30-2003, 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by specv
yeah u have to take your car to the track.. u have an auto right?? well if u go manuel shift it and do it in just drive.. i am dieing ti know what the new max runs..
yeah u have to take your car to the track.. u have an auto right?? well if u go manuel shift it and do it in just drive.. i am dieing ti know what the new max runs..
06-30-2003, 01:40 PM
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Originally posted by specv
yeah u have to take your car to the track.. u have an auto right?? well if u go manuel shift it and do it in just drive.. i am dieing ti know what the new max runs.. especially an auto... 5spd se.. my father has one but he wont go to the track... i did race him saturday from a dead stop up to about 75 or so i think alittle less and he was ahead of me by about 1 car and a half or so and i run a 15.4 at the track with my spec v...
yeah u have to take your car to the track.. u have an auto right?? well if u go manuel shift it and do it in just drive.. i am dieing ti know what the new max runs.. especially an auto... 5spd se.. my father has one but he wont go to the track... i did race him saturday from a dead stop up to about 75 or so i think alittle less and he was ahead of me by about 1 car and a half or so and i run a 15.4 at the track with my spec v...
06-30-2003, 01:44 PM
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at like 65 or so... i trap 92 in my spec v so we didnt evan come close to the 1/4... my brother in his acura cl type s runs 14.7s in the 1/4 and he's ahead about the same at that point and keeps on pulling. so i would say the 04 max se auto runs the same...
06-30-2003, 02:15 PM
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Sounds believable that the 3.5SE beat the SpecV by not so much. Consider these pluses and minuses in terms of performance:
Pluses
265 hp
5 speed automatic (as opposed to the older 4 speed auto.)
Minuses
Heaviest Maxima ever at 3400 lbs.
18 inch rims on the 3.5 SE. They may look great, but rotational intertia will take it's toll.
5 speed auto as opposed to 6 speed manual.
The weight and wheels will probably give the biggest hit to performance on the 3.5SE. The 265 hp is being soaked up by it's own weight and wheels, just like in the Acura TL/CL type S's which weigh 3500 lbs.
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Pluses
265 hp
5 speed automatic (as opposed to the older 4 speed auto.)
Minuses
Heaviest Maxima ever at 3400 lbs.
18 inch rims on the 3.5 SE. They may look great, but rotational intertia will take it's toll.
5 speed auto as opposed to 6 speed manual.
The weight and wheels will probably give the biggest hit to performance on the 3.5SE. The 265 hp is being soaked up by it's own weight and wheels, just like in the Acura TL/CL type S's which weigh 3500 lbs.
DW