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Old 08-25-2003 | 11:10 PM
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Technos ECU for 2004 Maximas-- coming soon?

Hey Guys.

you probably dont know me, but i used to be an old time fart here on .org for the 4th gen guys..

i've been working with an ECU tuner since 99 to bring the Gforce Engineering ECU out for the 95/96 Maximas that also ran in the 97s with an ecu swap..

but now i have long sinced moved away to bigger RWD projects such as my Twin Turbo 350Z (one of the first TT Zs in the USA/World).... and i stuck with TechnoSquare Inc(formerly named GForce Engineering) to develop Naturally Aspirated and Forced Inducted ECU programs.... they have been building race motors for NISMO USA, MazdaSpeed, TRD, and numerous race teams throughout the USA and Japan...

The 04 Maxima ECU, which is similar to the 350Z ecu, which is similar to the G35Coupe and G35Sedan ecu, is a FLASH type eprom memory.... i.e. you can upload new programs of the fuel to air ratio, timing advancement, variable timing switch over, raising the rev limiter, and even throttle body control... Nowadays, the Nissans coming from Japan are even more advanced than the ones that were released in early 2000, the ECU has moved to a whole seperate Local-Area-Network scheme where all the components are talking to each other and tuning the car becomes very difficult.... but TechnoSquare can do it, and have done it right... Yes it is possible to see double digit gains from this ECU, but its not all about peak HP gains.. its about efficiency and overall driveablity. (but by all means, please dont expect 30+ hp from a naturally aspirated maxima...)

They're (i sometimes say We cuz i feel like it) doing research to see if the 2004 Maxima ECU is similar to the G35Sedan ecu (which there is a high likely hood it is) and the Murano and FX35/45....this is a whole new door of opportunity for true Nissan enthusiasts...

which comes to this..

we would like to have a few beta testers, 1 automatic and 1 manual 04 Maxima to send the ECU to japan for initial testing and in return, your car will have the ECU reflashed at no cost.
The ecu will be out of the country to Japan for roughly two weeks, so alternate transportation on your part is needed. i.e. if you have another car, and are willing to help us, please! for the love of the Maxima Community! how about it?

Well. this is obviously a limited time offer, whoever can help, please call TechnoSquare and we can get the ball rolling...

contact is DANNY LEE
TECHNOSQUARE, Inc.
TEL (310) 787-0847
Email: danny@atagan.com
Subject Title: 2004 Maxima Beta Tester Volunteer.



or if you have questions, comments, please feel free to contact me, Cheston, at ChestonCChiu@hotmail.com


thank you for your time,



--Cheston
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Old 08-25-2003 | 11:24 PM
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ive got a 6 speed id be willing to test it out on, will it void my warrenty??...and what kinda numbers can i expect??

my email is noah2323@hotmail.com

lemme know man
Old 08-26-2003 | 06:39 AM
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Chebosto,
Don't take this the wrong way but there's no way I would ever give up my ECU to a complete stranger and just hope that it gets returned to me in good working order. Suppose something goes wrong with the shipment, the programming, or any number of possible things. Who's supposed to replace the ECU if something does go wrong, what kind of guarantee do we as the customer have in case of problems?

I've personally never heard of you or Technosquare. I'm not saying that your not legit but it just sounds strange to me. It seems to me that a company that's been building race motors for NISMO, TRD, and MazdaSpeed would be able to afford an ECU on their own.
Old 08-26-2003 | 08:20 AM
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Cheston is completely legit. He has a good job (no need to steal or cheat), is very trustworthy, and hell, he even posts pictures of himself next to his car on the org all the time (Stop doing that Cheston). This would be a great opportunity for you guys if someone volunteered their ECU. I'm guessing that the reason that Technosquare is not just going to go out and buy an ECU is that they don't want to invest that much cost into developing an ECU for you guys b/c they aren't forecasting a good financial return. Cheston is doing you a favor.

So Cheston, how about a 99.5 ECU?
Old 08-26-2003 | 08:39 AM
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Hey 4drsleeper--
yea. it takes a little trust in some ppl to get them to borrow their ecu for two weeks. i mean, if its not your thing, please dont take it the wrong way. TechnoSquare is warranting all their work, so if they mess up your ecu, they will replace it. the only reason why they ask for the community's help is, they dont have a car to test it ON, even if they do get the ecu themselves.

i strive to do the best in my car projects, i sat around a while back in the late 90s and didnt see much happening for the maxima, so i went out on my own, started MaximaDriver.com and tried to get companies to do stuff for us. i still am but i dont have an 04 maxima, if i did, i'm sure you would have heard of me.

if you havent heard of TechnoSquare, thats normal. they do more corporate end stuff than End-user... but you will soon.

we have two project cars going into SuperStreet Magazine in a few weeks (their AE86 drifter and my TT Z) and possible soon on other forms of media.

i'm just a messenger, because Technos are my friends, and they're the ones i trust with my cars...

as far as Bluebird's 99.5 request: 98-99.5-00-01 are all ROM board based modifications... Technos feels that there just isnt enough interest since each of those boards will be separate for each year.. not too business savvy-- but the 04 maximas (and pretty much most 03 year nissans) are now Flash rom, which they have the ability to change at will once we get the core programming off generous and helpful car enthusiasts such as fine persons on this forum.

wanna know a bit of who i am to boost your trust in me? pls take a looky here:
http://www.cardomain.com/id/chebosto350z
http://www.cardomain.com/id/chebosto



thanks

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Old 08-26-2003 | 08:51 AM
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Old 08-26-2003 | 09:29 AM
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Chebosto,
From the looks of things I'm glad to see you're not trying to rip anybody off. No hard feelings I hope. I've seen way to many people get burned before, as I'm sure you have too.

I would love to be a beta tester but I wouldn't have another car to drive while the max is down. Besides, I'm not sure I could handle looking at the car just sitting for two or three weeks without being able to drive it. It sounds like a great opportunity for someone and I can't wait to see the results. After buying the car I had already decided that the only engine mods would be an intake and ECU (if available), so please keep us informed, I'm extremely interested.

How do you plan on researching the performance results of the new ECU? Just curious since you wont actually have the car in your possession. I guess dyno results would be easy enough but I'd be interested in other results as well...like you mentioned driveability and efficiency. I'm assuming from the ability to upload programs that some sort of LT PC is required.

Anyway, I have too many questions so I'll wait a month or so and see what info you can provide later.

Kurt
Old 08-26-2003 | 11:24 AM
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can you give us a general idea of what the reflash will cost? say total including shipping there and back? sounds cool though, hopefully it provides some nice gains!
Old 08-27-2003 | 07:28 AM
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I have an auto, and I'm thinking about possibly donating mine for the cause

A few Question's:
How much will I have to pay for everything?
Will the Nissan tech's be able to tell I messed with it, in other words, will I get my warranty voided if I do this?
Is there any good reason that it might take longer than 2-3 weeks?
How hard is it to get the ECU out?

I just started my 2nd year in college so I don't have much time for anything but work and school, both full-time. I have a 99 GT that I have been driving while Nissan is fixing some of the small stuff (rear deck rattle, screen cleaned) so if it will only be gone for 2 weeks, I think I could *suffer* to have a better programmed ECU.

Oh, one more thing while we are talking about programming, is there any way that the SportTronic Shift could be programmed to hit the rev limiter, instead of the idiot proofing that makes it shift just like it's in regular auto?
If so, I don't care if it takes longer than 2 weeks, I'll do it
Old 08-27-2003 | 11:59 PM
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if you volunteer- its free to you, a $595.00 retail value.

the dealer will not know off hand that your ECU has been modified, TechnoSquare does not leave a digital code like some companies such as JWT does when you plug in a diagnostics computer/handheld unit like the consult.

ECU does not affect emmissions at all.
your fuel mileage actually increases due to the increased efficiency of the motor.

Technos will warrant your ecu while it is in their possession, but once it is back in your hands after the program, it is your reponsibility to drive, responsible, and not try to blow the motor thinking that you have super powers now.. they will not cover that.. but the will cover their software changes for 1 year of warranty on the code itself.

for autos, they do NOT mess with the tranny ecu, but it will help significantly by preventing you from hitting the rev limiter by raising the rev limiter up higher, and opening the breathing much easier for the car.

like i said. if any one is interested, contact TechnoSquare at the fone number posted.

thanks

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Old 08-28-2003 | 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by Chebosto
if you volunteer- its free to you, a $595.00 retail value.
Shipping costs? How much will shipping be both ways? Or, where exactly do I have to send it and how much does the ECU weigh? (Rough guesstimates is fine)

Originally posted by Chebosto
Technos will warrant your ecu while it is in their possession, but once it is back in your hands after the program, it is your reponsibility to drive, responsible, and not try to blow the motor thinking that you have super powers now.. they will not cover that.. but the will cover their software changes for 1 year of warranty on the code itself.
So, that means if I get it back, put it in, drive normal for several weeks, then get on it hard in hot n humid weather, and it blows from detonation because the program was running it too lean, I don't have any kind of warranty from them???

When I first bought my Lightning, some of the guys on the message boards had blown their 2000 and 1999 Lightnings because of detonation from a bad program on the chip. Most got lucky and didn't get caught by Ford and had their engines replaced, but I did hear of one guy that blew his, Ford found out he had a chip, the chip had a bad program, the company that burnt it didn't cover it, just as your saying, and he ended up with a 2000 Lighting with 20,000 miles and no motor. I don't want that to happen but I would like to have a better program running.

And about the Nissan tech's not knowing it's been flashed, if they look really, really hard, will they be able to tell? My Nissan dealership here is so **** that I told them that they couldn't clean the screen, that it could only be replaced, and the parts manager laughed at me. I sat there and just smiled at him, he called me back today and said they just ordered one because it scatched it up. Guess what I did, "hahahaha, told ya so" right back at him.

If I mess anything up, they can and WILL look for someway to get out of it. Bastards...
Old 08-28-2003 | 11:26 PM
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you might want to ask yourself 1> why are they looking at the ECU in the first place, if they're pulling codes for, say, a Check Engine Light for a rear bank o2 sensor.. When they plug in the consult, they will not know that the core programming has changed unless they're looking at the timing past 3k rpm, in which is when Nissan's closed loop programming ceases, and the car is now capable of utilizing multiple timing maps ala Variable Timing Switch over. there is nothing phyiscal per say on the ECU, unless you put a sticker on it, no one will tell.

Shipping you pay, depending on how fast you want it back. next day, then it would probably be a few bucks. but again, you're getting the programming for free...

if you use bad gas, say, 85 octane and you ping, then obviously its the fault of the user for not following the suggestions of only using premium octane in a modified ECU. of course they will help reprogram/rehash the code if you're constantly pinging with high temperatures and high octane, then something is wrong, but thats why they need to test...

technosquare's main goal is to make the user happy. do what they can to make it right... as for your lightening friends, thats quite interesting, but technosquare's never lost a vehicle in the hundreds they've already sold for other cars, and they dont plan on it...

but hey.. i'm just the messenger. if you want to get serious, then contact techos directly.

i can only do so much, it will take the dominant personalities in a community to make these projects from Dream to reality.

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Old 08-29-2003 | 06:47 AM
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I just got my car back about an hour ago from the shop because it was just dying on me when I tried to go anywhere.

It started when I tried to leave the track after my 2 runs. It would just idle, wouldn't hardly rev past 1300 rpm under full throttle. I thought it was because I took out the air filter.

Wrong...

They told me this morning they had to replace the entire computer because it had gone bad. Hrm, great, really starts to get me thinking about the quality if my computer already went out

I think I'm going to go ahead with it, if they haven't found an auto yet. Avoid paying that $600 later because I know I'll want it done a few months done the line when I start putting more performance mods on it.

Any 6-spd's out there going to donate their computer for the cause?
Old 08-29-2003 | 09:59 AM
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Old 08-29-2003 | 01:07 PM
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Well im a 6 speed but i cannot afford the downtime, although i would love to have a reproggrammed ecu. if this process could go faster then i would consider it.
Old 09-11-2003 | 10:52 AM
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This offer is still open to 6th Gen owners.
Old 09-11-2003 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Chebosto
This offer is still open to 6th Gen owners.
You have PM.
Old 09-12-2003 | 12:25 PM
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Cheston, I emailed Danny at TechnoSquare and he said they were too busy too take them. I told him I'd be more then happy to send my SE auto ECU whenever they want to do it and he hasn't contacted me back.

Are they ready for them? I have the 5-spd auto and told him I'd be the auto donor. I would really like to avoid that $600 if I could, definitely worth it to me for not having for 2 weeks, especially if it will help get rid of the acceleration lag problem.
Old 09-13-2003 | 12:41 AM
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Someone with a 6 speed please do this!! It would make you really Cool!
Old 09-15-2003 | 12:55 PM
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Glude, I emailed Danny, the contact that Chebesto listed to contact and he said that they were too busy to do them. I told him to contact me back when they were ready and I haven't received any word yet. I am ready to do it though, now we need a 6-spd owner! No 6-spds out there want their ECU flashed for free?

I heard that another company had the ECU upgrade ready to go, JetWolf I believe? Don't hold me to that, it's been a few weeks since I saw the post.
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