Hey guys,

Here is my dillema,

I want a better brake package for my 2005 in preperation for the SC kit that will hopefully come from SSR tech.

So far I only found a few good brake ideas. But I'm hoping some of you ran into different variations.

1) APR Big Brake kit with Rotors
2) Stillen Big Brake kit with Rotors
3) .org GD brake kit with SS lines
4) Brembos from a Z350

Any advice?

Thanks,

Kam

 

Brembos: I see two problems here, fit and price. There is some doubt as to if these will fit on our cars. Even if they do, they are VERY expenisve unless obtained from junked cars.
APR: These are costly, but if you get the 2 piece rotors, they lighten the load by quite a bit.
Stillen: Not a bad price for two piston calipers. Four pistons are much more preferred.
Stock brakes: If you get cross drilled rotors, there maybe an improvement since oems warps. SS lines firm the pedal some. Cost is an advantage, with some improvement.
Alternatives: I have seen the 300zx brakes on 5th gen maxs with Matt Blehmco's brake kit. There is supposed to be acaliper re-location bracket which adapts the 90-94 300zx aluminum brakes to our car. This is the kit I like since it is cheap, and it has great stopping power.

 

K, so brembos are out, 4 pistons would be nice thought for effective braking.

APR single piece vane rotor and APR 4 piston caliper seems reasonable. Along wiht rear slotted and vented.

Does that seam like a decent setup. I would like to get willwoods but i havent been able to find the site i looked up a while ago.

Kam

 

I went for the .org GD and couldn't be happier, since my car is more of a "cruiser" I just wanted a simple cheap upgrade somewhat performance wise but definitely look wise. Couldn't shell out thousands of dollars for brakes right now, $400, $100 install...

 

I'd go with the Stillens... $900 for the pads, calipers, discs and braided lines, and we're talking about 2 piston calipers. I know everyone wants to go the 4-piston way, but I think 2 piston is good enough for street purposes, as long as you don't plan on making sudden stops at 130 mph.

As for the .org GD, I don't know how much this improves braking, but let me tell you: I'm not happy with how my ride stops right now. It has a sport car suspension, sport car motor, sport car look (at least my MAX does) but the braking, as well as the manumatic shifting, are of a full size sedan.

I'm planning on getting the Stillens, but right now I'm saving to buy a nice house close to the beach in Isabela, PR. Let me tell you guys, I like the view and location of the place so much.... I don't know what would I love more, the house or my MAX!!!

 

Everyone in every Gen has liked the .org GD ones. I have a slotted set and 2 sets of racing pads waiting to go on. Talk to Jason aka AutoMax95
He does our GD and is very helpful.

 

Are you saying the 2-piece is lighter than the 1-piece. I never thought it made sense to pay another $1K to have 2-piece vs 1-piece with the same stopping power...or is stopping power effected too?

 

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seems concise to me
you're paying to reduce the weight at the wheels. less work to rotate wheels = less power lost/required to move car.

Same concept for racing wheels. Why pay so much more $$ if they spin the same diameter? They weigh A LOT less.

 

2-piece rotors are much lighter than the 1 piece.

I'm having some 2-pc custom rotors made right now that will directly replace the stock '04 rotors... when I weighed them earlier, I had them around 15-16lb each. the stockers are 24lb each.

other benefits are less warpage due to the design, and easily replaceable discs.. the metals used in them are MUCH higher quality than the OEM rotors (which I'm beginning to believe are made from lead and cheap pot-metal), and I've run some nasty nasty track compound pads on mine with virtually no wear. after 3 years and about 30 track days, they're just beginning to show some signs of wear.

hopefully I should have the new ones done and here in a couple weeks.

 

^^ so they will be front only? any ballpark prices yet? I have my AutoMax rotors, but maybe one day in the far future I could afford anorexic rotors....

 

ballpark of $600 for the rotors. small-scale custom machining on this stuff ain't cheap!

and yes, front only. nobody will make a 2 pc rear rotor because of the parking brake.

 

So, I should get the APR two piece front set with the forum group buy for the rears?

That should be effective braking , what do you guys think?

Thanks,

Kam

 

that setup will be enough even if you had turbo, roll cage, race slicks, and were on a track.

just hope you don't have to buy new pads anytime soon.

 

I just don't understand how 2-piece is lighter than 1-piece. LOL. Can someone please explain. Matt mentioned about the easily replaceable discs...that's the only difference I knew of...

To God be the Glory!

 

If you decide to stick with your stock rotors, I have two sets of BRAND new SS lines for the 6th gen in my garage. $90 shipped.

 

Yeah but I will get SS lines with any kit I get.
Thanks,

Kma

 

I believe the 2 piece is lighter because the hub of bolts on to the rotor, hence the name "two piece". The two piece hub lends itself to being lighter weight rather than the one piece since the one piece is one solid unit. Also I believe two piece rotors are CHEAPER to replace cuz u only have to replace the rotor and NOT the HUB.

Matt, correct if Im wrong but I think this is why.

I still want to know if the 300zx calipers with be able to be fitted to the 6th gen MAX. If so, the hot set up is 300zx calipers (inexpensive 4 piston aluminum calipers) with Matt's relocation kit, if it fits, stainless steel lines to firm up the pedal, and the two piece rotors. This can probably be had for around $1,000.

 

my co-worker has a twopiece wilwood racing set for his Rabit???...WTF

anywhoo, he showed me a set spinners from the base of his kit, it was warped and he was not able to mount a new rotor on the hat cause of the warping. The only thing I think would suck is replace the rotors in a set like the APR big brake kit, only $1000 later

DAMN......

Kam

 

that would be awesome