I saw pics of Altima SE-R Nismo struts and they look like they might fit.

http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/...ges/nismo3.jpg

Would be nice alternative to Konis without adjustability. Any thoughts?

 

Deus if you know someone at a stealership have them show you the SER and our OEM strut side by side. Just a idea.

 

This would be awesome if they actually did fit, but would the lowering of the front .9 and the rear .4 look decent and how would the performance be considering that the Altima is a little bit of a lighter and smaller car than the Max, I know it's not by much, but still a difference.

 

Im not sure if they fit our not, I tried to research this in the past and couldnt come to a good conclusion. I got some brand new gr2s up for grabs if your interested.

 

Hey DEUS........... remember when u were looking for floating rotors?

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....85#post5019385

Kam

 

Anyone know???????

 

i talked to my boy over at nissan and he said it should but he is not sure. i was planning to go over there to find out about the front strut bar also. Been real busy and haven't had time.

 

Do u mean the front sway bar??

 

Anyone want to answer my question?

 

I think it would not be too significant. How much lighter is the Alti?

 

They're a bit over 3300 lbs.

 

The Max weighs 3346, so i'm pretty sure that the Altima is at least 100 lbs. lighter, if not more. And the width/length are probaly inches and wheelbase is probaly the same, so i'm not sure if those minor differences would that much of an adverse effect on it, but that's why i'm asking!

 

The front KYB GR2 strut part #s are the same for the Maxima and V6 Altima, so they should move back and forth.

Problem is, the rears do not cross over, and you'd end up with a mismatched strut set.

Is the word out yet that the full KYB GR2 strut set is now available for the 04+ Max?

Obviously it would be nice to have a set of adjustables, but several of our customers have installed the front GR2s with the Progress spring sets and RSB, and they've been very pleased with the results. Now the rear GR2s are available so all can be installed at once.

The wierd part is that the GR2 set for the 04+ Max is about $100 less than the GR2s for the 95-99 and 00-03 Max. We're going to start selling them for around $250/set of 4.

Brian C Catts
Cattman Performance

 

If I understand your question correctly, the struts won't have any influence on the height of the car, that's only determined by the springs.

BCC

 

You mean thease things?

KYB-GR2 on eBay.


How come the Activetunning rear KYB-AGX cross over between the 2004-2006 Maxima and the 2002-2005 Altima?

Maxima Active Tuning KYB Rears

Altima Active Tuning KYB Rears

If the AGX is cross platform compatible, whats changes on the GR2? Excluding the obvious adjustment ***** and red color? Are the mounting points different?

You wouldnt have any pics would you?

Thanks Brian,
Kamski

 

I have pics of the rear of my car when I put on the KYBs on the rear. If someone has an ALti, we can see if there is a difference.

 

Pic showing close up of bottom mount:

 

my wife has an altima se V-6, I can shoot some pics tomorrow.
Any news if the SE-R struts (front) will work, If that is the case the Nismo Struts should fit as well???

 

Here you go....

Under neath pics of Altima.

The exact same parts looks like. I wonder why KYB would give two different parts # between two exact same parts and cars.

MAXIMA
Manual Transmission
kg (lb)
1576 (3474)
Automatic Transmission
kg (lb)
1593 (3511) SE
1601 (3530) SL

ALTIMA
Manual Transmission
kg (lb)
1381 (3044) 2.5S
1465 (3230) 3.5SE
1494 (3293) 3.5SE-R

Automatic Transmission
kg (lb)
1403 (3093) 2.5S
1481 (3264) 3.5S
1491 (3288) 3.5SE
1510 (3330) 3.5SE-R

Not much weight diff.......

Kamski

 

Looks like the Nismo shocks will fit!!! Im curious about the Nismo front struts!!

 

Actually, we hadn't done our homework on pricing, so without discussing the commercial side further on this forum, I'll just say that there is a much more competitively-priced offer on the GR2s and Progress springs/RSB in the GD forum.

When I say that the GR2s are the first complete aftermarket strut set for the 04+ Maxima, I'm only talking about struts that are intended for the car by the original manufacturer. I'm probably missing something, because I can see discussion of AGX use but don't understand the crossover aspect from Altima to Maxima since there are no AGX parts for either car in the KYB catalogue.

Without any more insight than simple logic and general experience, I will say that just because you can install a suspension part on a car its not meant for, its not necessarily a good idea. This is simply because its impossible to determine if that part will work properly on that car under every driving circumstance. Comparing pictures will not offer a lot of useful information about the strut travel and damping (incl. vehicle weight) factors (and perhaps others) that have to be compatable for a crossover to be done safely. Careful measurement and a strut dynamometer would be required to quantify these factors in a useful way.

So, if I'm guessing correctly, the AGX set being installed in the Altima wasn't made by AGX for the Altima (what are they made for?), and now those are being installed on the Maxima because its similar to the Altima, even though Nissan and KYB have different strut/shock part #s for the two cars and I see that KYB doesn't even offer a rear strut for the 04+ Altima...

Before I sound too preachy, I'll mention that Cattman Performance actually did something like this years ago, before there were any AGXs or real coilovers for any Maximas, by heavily adapting 1st generation Eclipse AGXs as the foundation for the first "real" Maxima coilover sets, and later adapting 95-99 Maxima AGX sets to the 00-03 Maxima (we stopped when Illuminas came out for the 5th gens). As time went on, though, we realized that this wasn't good practice - for seller or buyer - due to the extreme liability implications and because the warranties were automatically voided. My attorney would have a fit if we did something like this now.

Brian C Catts
Cattman Performance

 

All product numbers and lawyers aside (Sorry Deus) If the AGX altima/maxima are intercompatible then the parts must fit. If you look at the heaviest Altima and Lightest Maxima, your only 130lbs different.

Take out spare tire and half a tank of gas and your at the same weight for both cars.

I still love the catman springs but I prefer something adjustable this time.

I know DEUS has a lot of success with his AGX in the rear and less squat under acceleration.

Kamski

 

Actually the shocks should fit being they have the same part#. I dont think we have either shock in stock so I wouldnt be able to check it side by side . Nismo coilovers anyone

 

Im not exactly sure what your saying about the AGX's but I ran them for over 2 years without any problems so take that for what its worth.

 

Thats awesome, I really want to get a set, but $$ is kind of low.

Definately going with KYB-AGX in rear and Koni Adjustable in front, thease two things should compliment my Cattman springs and sway bar along with racingline endlinks....

Brian I hear you ordered some of those racingline endlinks from Taz?

How do you like them?

Kamski

 

I have run my AGX shocks on the rear for about a month now, including driving in an autocross, piloted by my beautiful daughter, and the car handled great. No travel problems or bottoming out problems. I have discovered that a setting of 5 is a bit stiff when carrying other people, so if I have to go for a long trip, its prolly better to set them softer. The fit is great too, easy to install. Having raced for over 20 years and built several cars, I have confidence in the AGX shocks, including from a liability standpoint as a practicing attorney as well!!

 

I'm trying to share what I think is a useful perspective, but don't want to pick a fight with anyone, and will emphasize that I don't have a significant economic stake in the topic either way. My position doesn't seem to be making a useful impression, so I'll clarify and then stand down.

I am simply saying that as a matter of general policy, its not a good idea to put suspension parts on a car they weren't designed for - either looking at it from a liability or safety standpoint (they're sort of inextricably linked, I'd say). Just because they fit on the car, doesn't mean they are safe to use under the entire potential range of operating circumstances. I don't doubt that you and others have had positive experiences with these, but the ultimate safety of this setup cannot be determined by anecdotal accounts.

Has anyone measured the AGX at compressed and full extension and compared those lengths with the stock unit? That would be one place to start trying to figure out substitutability, but hardly the only factor.

I don't have experience with the specific parts we're talking about, but that's unnecessary because this is pretty fundamental. Would you want to discover you're wrong about this when taking extreme evasive action to avoid the tire cap that's flying off a semi truck at your windshield? I don't need to point out that there are lives at stake in any driving situation.

Brian C Catts
Cattman Performance

 

ActiveTuning tested them a long time ago. I think they were right to spec. I would love for KYB to have an official AGX set for our car. But if its only a small mod and afterwards fits specifications, then im all for it.

Also in regards to legalities, I thought small business were protected with insurance from lawsuit headaches in part due to a manufacturing defect. ??? Or is that only here in canada? Bah none the less, KYB seems like a great product. But KONIS would be even better.

ALSO! Have you checked out those endlinks from TAZ at Racingline.ca? They go whicked with the progress sway bar you have. My maxis rear and is soo much tighter with them.....

Hey TAZ for scratchin my paint, Make me the front END LINKSS!!

 

so wait is the final word that the NISMO struts and shocks fit out maximas? front and rear? and wuh is this i hear about NISMO coilovers? OMG don't even start with that NOW...cause i'm still deciding on NISMO shock and springs over here....