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Old Sep 15, 2006 | 09:42 AM
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Rear Subframe recall, anyone get this done yet?

Has anyone gotten the rear subframe recall repair done yet? Nissan told me that this job can take upto an entire day to complete because they have to take apart the whole rear end. I am hesitating to get this done because I have a feeling that after they take apart the rear end and then put it back together, they wont put it together right and I will have more problems. I feel that things will be loose, I may hear more rattling noises from the rear and things like that. I dont like big parts of the car to be taken apart and then replaced because I have always had more problems after. What do you guys think? Has anyone gottent his done and how was the car after the repair?? Thanks
Old Sep 15, 2006 | 09:48 AM
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Has anyone gotten the rear subframe recall repair done yet? Nissan told me that this job can take upto an entire day to complete because they have to take apart the whole rear end. I am hesitating to get this done because I have a feeling that after they take apart the rear end and then put it back together, they wont put it together right and I will have more problems. I feel that things will be loose, I may hear more rattling noises from the rear and things like that. I dont like big parts of the car to be taken apart and then replaced because I have always had more problems after. What do you guys think? Has anyone gottent his done and how was the car after the repair?? Thanks
it's a dealership. they are liable to all installs. just as other shops. they will do it right.
Old Sep 15, 2006 | 10:31 AM
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Should we be taking this into them to do or no? I am giving them my Max in 1 week because its very f!ked up at the moment and they need to do some fixes, includding tranny work, etc.
Old Sep 15, 2006 | 10:56 AM
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I had mine done a month ago, and the car rides same as before. They give me a loaner until the job was completed. I dropped it off at 7:30 and it was ready around 4:00. Since the dealer is performing the work, you shouldn't have any problems. But if you do, just keep taking it back until it feels right.
Old Sep 15, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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I had it done and they said there wasn't anything wrong with my origional sub-frame but, call me crazy, I think the rear end rides nicer than before.
Old Sep 15, 2006 | 01:29 PM
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Ok

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it's a dealership. they are liable to all installs. just as other shops. they will do it right.
You must be crazy or work for the stealership. So what if it's a dealership....they can hack your ride up and when you bring is back blame it on your aftermarket springs or maybe even your aftermarket stereo.
Old Sep 15, 2006 | 01:34 PM
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hi killah kane the rear sub frame takes 2.90 hrs. thats what is written as timed billed to nissan, on my nissan statement. when I had it done the rear felt alittle tighter. its some thing you must do. so if you go there first thing in the morning when they open up try to be the first car you should be out by lunch but dont forget to tell them you will WAIT for your max! dont forget to make an appointment thats a must and bring your recall card. good luck
Old Sep 15, 2006 | 02:29 PM
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hi killah kane the rear sub frame takes 2.90 hrs. thats what is written as timed billed to nissan, on my nissan statement. when I had it done the rear felt alittle tighter. its some thing you must do. so if you go there first thing in the morning when they open up try to be the first car you should be out by lunch but dont forget to tell them you will WAIT for your max! dont forget to make an appointment thats a must and bring your recall card. good luck

If I bring it at 7:30am and it will probably be done by lunchtime, if I wait, what will I do at the dealership for almost 5 hours??
Old Sep 15, 2006 | 02:30 PM
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You must be crazy or work for the stealership. So what if it's a dealership....they can hack your ride up and when you bring is back blame it on your aftermarket springs or maybe even your aftermarket stereo.

Exactly, this is my concern.
Old Sep 15, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 04SMOKE
You must be crazy or work for the stealership. So what if it's a dealership....they can hack your ride up and when you bring is back blame it on your aftermarket springs or maybe even your aftermarket stereo.
I know, they come up with the most retarded excuses. For example, if my engine blows, they'll probably blame it on me because I have an aftermarket subwoofer in my car and theyll same something stupid that my sub caused my engine to blow lol
Old Sep 15, 2006 | 03:09 PM
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It's a simple process and is done to replace the bushings for fear of failure in the salt belt. The reason they replace the whole subframe is because it's cheaper than just replacing the bushings-weird huh. Don't sweat it.
Old Sep 15, 2006 | 08:41 PM
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I had it done while my car was in for something else. Well when i got it back i had a really squeaky suspension and also had this annoying rattle. We thought it was my exhaust but after i installed the cattman system it was still present. I probably should take it back but for now i can live with it.
Old Sep 16, 2006 | 06:55 AM
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Does anyone know if Canadian models have this issue ?
Old Sep 16, 2006 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by takenit2dmax
Does anyone know if Canadian models have this issue ?
Do you guys "salt" the roads in winter?


These things take time to do. My dealer told me they can only do one a day. So I dropped mine off the night before, and it was ready by lunch time the next day. No problems noticed, havent felt anything different.
Old Sep 16, 2006 | 08:31 AM
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I think they mostly use Potassium Chloride in this part of Canada, and winters are getting quite mild here in the Toronto area, not as much snow as in the past (global warming ?) Is it a corrosion problem with the sub frame ?
Old Sep 16, 2006 | 09:14 AM
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There was a huge post on this quite a while back.... abt a yr or so.

I had mine done (almost a year now) and it did ride a lot better after.

Yes the cars in canada (and in NY, new jersey ... detroit etc ... where lots of snow and subsequently lots of salt used) shd. do it!!

By now the mechs doing the job shd. know how to do it easily... thye have done quite a few (at least at the dealer I have gone to)
Old Sep 16, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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I got mine about a month ago, since then I sold the car. I must say however my car would always make noise after hitting bumps and even backing up slow over a speed bump or something it would make noise and not feel right. After they replaced this(ilooked under the car and it was all new) my car rode 100% BETTER NO JOKE. It didnt make half the noise and even at speed it seemed to ride so much better. I didnt think this was supposed to have an impact on the ride(maybe they tightened the whole suspension or something) but get it done ASAP, it took them about 3 hours to do mine.
Old Sep 16, 2006 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by takenit2dmax
Does anyone know if Canadian models have this issue ?

YES............
Old Sep 19, 2006 | 04:29 PM
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some spots do just the bushings, some spots do the complete subframe. if your subframe has cracks where the bushings go, then they replace your subframe. if the subframe doesnt have cracks, then they just take out the old bushings and put new bushings with sealant. the cracks are caused by water/salt entering the bushing. the bushing eventually swells and ends up cracking the subframe. after the replacement, it is mandatory for nissan to perform a rear alignment. hence why everyone feels a difference after the subframe campaign/recall is completed. this is also a problem for altimas
Old Sep 20, 2006 | 04:04 PM
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Had my subframe recall done 6 months ago. No handling difference after. My dealer also only does one a day. After that, I added the RSB, SS brake lines, etc. I did not want the dealer looking for an excuse to charge extra for removing aftermarket parts. My service advisor is pretty cool but upfront if mods get in the way.
Old Sep 20, 2006 | 04:50 PM
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I had it done with the swaybar and coils installed, no problem. I have to admit the car rides firmer. I wouldn't say its a performance thing, but I guess the new parts make it seem firmer.
Old Sep 21, 2006 | 09:27 AM
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We had my wife's car done about 2 months ago and ever since then there has been a noise like a tire rubbing against something. 3 year/36k expires on Sept 30 and it is going back Tuesday. Also had the switch in the seat recall thing done and now the lumbar support does not work. This will be the 18th time this car has been in the shop in 3 years. Everything from squeaks, 4 sets of rotors and brakes, struts, alternator, recalls, etc. Probably should have pursued the lemon law on this after the first 6 issues.
Old Sep 21, 2006 | 09:48 AM
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I am not the original owner of the car... therefore didnt get this rear subframe recall notice. Should I just call the dealer up and ask about it?
Old Sep 21, 2006 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by takenit2dmax
Does anyone know if Canadian models have this issue ?

Yes. Mine has been recalled.

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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by NVRSATISFYD
I am not the original owner of the car... therefore didnt get this rear subframe recall notice. Should I just call the dealer up and ask about it?
if it hasn't been done yet, they have to do it no matter what..

I went in for an oil change and a bad bearing, they looked up the recalls and did it while it was in there. I did get the notice, but how would they know that.

call and ask, it won't hurt.
Old Sep 21, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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We had my wife's car done about 2 months ago and ever since then there has been a noise like a tire rubbing against something. 3 year/36k expires on Sept 30 and it is going back Tuesday. Also had the switch in the seat recall thing done and now the lumbar support does not work. This will be the 18th time this car has been in the shop in 3 years. Everything from squeaks, 4 sets of rotors and brakes, struts, alternator, recalls, etc. Probably should have pursued the lemon law on this after the first 6 issues.

Burny, regarding your power lumbar....I also had the seat recall done about 6 months ago, then my lumbar also stopped working. I just took it into the dealer last week and it was a nightmare. They told me the lumbar motor needed to be replaced, and this meant that the entire backrest of the seat had to be repalced and they were charging me almost $2,000!!! Worst of all, it is NOT covered under my extended warranty! of course huh?!! Well after I declined the repair, they put everything back together and for some reason it started working again. They told me that it would probably eventually fail but it is still working at this point, but even if it fails I am not paying $2000 to get it fixed. I cannot believe its not covered under my warranty!
Old Sep 21, 2006 | 06:36 PM
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Man, that bites. I'm really sick of going to the dealership. My daughter has a Scion tC bought July 2004 and has been in shop once to get a stereo replaced. I have a 1991 Toyota 4Runner and it has not been to the shop as many times as this Maxima already has. Probably not even half as many and those times were for regular maintenance only.
Old Sep 21, 2006 | 09:06 PM
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stopped by my local nissan dealership and in the back by the dumpster they had a hue pile of the subframes.
Old Sep 21, 2006 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by NVRSATISFYD
I am not the original owner of the car... therefore didnt get this rear subframe recall notice. Should I just call the dealer up and ask about it?
call your local dealership and give them your vin number. takes about 1 minute to find out if its been done or not.

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We had my wife's car done about 2 months ago and ever since then there has been a noise like a tire rubbing against something. 3 year/36k expires on Sept 30 and it is going back Tuesday. Also had the switch in the seat recall thing done and now the lumbar support does not work. This will be the 18th time this car has been in the shop in 3 years. Everything from squeaks, 4 sets of rotors and brakes, struts, alternator, recalls, etc. Probably should have pursued the lemon law on this after the first 6 issues.
maybe the tech dint do the campaign/recall right. does the sound ever go away or its a constant rubber friction sound?
Old Sep 22, 2006 | 04:48 AM
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I am not sure at high speeds if it is there or not, but at speeds 40MPH and under it is always there. I have checked the tires for wear, etc but have seen nothing that stands out. I drove the car yesterday and really was not happy with the handling of it.
Old Sep 22, 2006 | 08:48 AM
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I have a Progress rear sway bar on my car, you guys think Nissan will give me problems for this when doing the recall?
Old Sep 23, 2006 | 07:40 AM
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no. as long as the removal/installation is the same as stock, it should be fine.
Old Sep 23, 2006 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Killah Kane
I have a Progress rear sway bar on my car, you guys think Nissan will give me problems for this when doing the recall?
read post 21..
Old Sep 23, 2006 | 04:09 PM
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Yes. Mine has been recalled.

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they don't get much snow way up in god's country do they?
Old Sep 23, 2006 | 05:29 PM
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dear xnyc do you think alignment is needed? just love seeing all those subframes at the dealer on nissans bad and poor design. well anyway the tires suck on the 2004 max. will 4wheel align newbies, when its time. but thanks for the input.thanks glen...
Old Sep 23, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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The warranty is attached to the car. It does not matter even if your are the fourth owner. Just schedule the subframe work. If it was already done, they will tell you.

I had my car in for the nth time this week. I had noise in the driver door, and I was warned that the 'blue light' and the E-dead stuff in the panel may be the cause. Standard disclaimer from my service advisor. But, it was just another Nissan defect. The new chrome on the roof looks great

Tek - bad bearing? Engine, wheel? You are scaring me...
Old Sep 23, 2006 | 09:03 PM
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Tek - bad bearing? Engine, wheel? You are scaring me...

I just had bearing problems, no engine trouble.
Old Sep 24, 2006 | 12:51 AM
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alignment should already be done wen they give you your car back. its just not 4 wheel. adjustments on the front are not affected in rear subframe replacement campaign
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I had it done when it just came out and they started sending letters. I had to leave it for 2 days (NY)

As far as the dealer goes I have a strong feeling the less you go back to the dealer the longer your car will run. Every time I pick up the car from the stealership there is something else. If i have a small problem and don't go back for months nothing new comes up. Weird and effed.

If you ask me; I don't trust them at all. Dealer/no dealer, same kind of people working in both places the difference is that you don't pay for warranty work, nissan does all the paying.
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