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Old 04-18-2007, 10:50 PM
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^^^ and enjoy the pedal travel from hell and back.
orly? please explain the science behind this
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Old 04-18-2007, 10:54 PM
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As the total piston area increases, so does the amount of fluid needed to activate the brakes. If you have a constant MS cylinder size then you need to push the pedal down more than before.

Considering in the past, the FWD and RWD Nissans/Infinitis didn't share common brake mounting dimensions, using the oem brembos is a good way to get front/rear bbk that has a very well front/rear brake bias designed in. Mismatching front/rear bbk w/o doing the calculations isn't going to net you shorter stopping distances.
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Old 04-19-2007, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
As the total piston area increases, so does the amount of fluid needed to activate the brakes. If you have a constant MS cylinder size then you need to push the pedal down more than before.

Considering in the past, the FWD and RWD Nissans/Infinitis didn't share common brake mounting dimensions, using the oem brembos is a good way to get front/rear bbk that has a very well front/rear brake bias designed in. Mismatching front/rear bbk w/o doing the calculations isn't going to net you shorter stopping distances.
aha! gotcha
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Old 04-21-2007, 07:05 PM
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On the subject of brakes...

Hey guys, while we're on the subject of brake upgrades I thought I'd ask for some advice. Yesterday I purchased 4 sets of pads and rotors for my '04 SE. I've never done a brake job before, but from what I hear its not difficult at all. I've done some searching through the stickies for "how to" on brakes, but didnt see anything. Maybe because theyre just that simple?

My main question is, what type of tool would I need to remove the caliper to change the rotor? Do I just need that tool to do the job? If someone could set me up with some instructions or a how-to website, it would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 04-21-2007, 08:05 PM
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Sockets, wrenches, jack, done.
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Old 04-21-2007, 09:36 PM
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and a nice thick piece of wood to hit the wrench to break the bolts loose!
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Old 04-22-2007, 12:46 AM
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I just us my muscles, for I eats me spinach.
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Old 04-22-2007, 08:19 PM
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Me too but when my muscles break it free, I don't want to break my knuckles on something...I cracked my nail in half doing this before...
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Old 04-22-2007, 09:23 PM
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Oh nice, so I dont need one of those air compression tools to push on the caliper?
I'm going to work on this tomorrow!!
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Old 04-22-2007, 11:19 PM
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I use pipe around socket. Cracks those bztiches everytime!!!
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Old 04-23-2007, 07:36 AM
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I use pipe around socket. Cracks those bztiches everytime!!!
also known as a ghetto breaker bar!
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Old 04-23-2007, 01:12 PM
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Maybe your pedal feels better than stock but I really doubt your numbers are that much improved from just the caliper. From what I've read the Wilwood's also seem to mess up the bias which would hinder your braking performance.
We didn't just change his calipers, it was a whole $1800 BBK kit: 13.6" two piece rotors, 6-POT calipers, pads, ss lines and brackets. The stopping is unbelivable comparing to my maxie (stock brakes, for now)

As to the BIAS, I haven't notices anything strange other than being short of breath when I step on them brakes.
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Originally Posted by !PrjctMax!
are you or your bro thinking of doing a rear bbk? (I would want a full BBK)
Well he's been drooling over the G37 for quite a while now so unless he doesn't get a deal or he is otherwise unable to swallow the losses he will continue his modding but until then I don't see him spending another dime on a car that will proly be my parents car.

On a side note, he was drooling over my AT grill I just installed last Friday but sucker is really determined to get that G37 so he is saving his coins.
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Originally Posted by xoomer.com
We didn't just change his calipers, it was a whole $1800 BBK kit: 13.6" two piece rotors, 6-POT calipers, pads, ss lines and brackets. The stopping is unbelivable comparing to my maxie (stock brakes, for now)

As to the BIAS, I haven't notices anything strange other than being short of breath when I step on them brakes.
I know, I said you replaced all the components. What I was saying was that changing rotors, pads and lines with stock calipers would probably stop just as well as putting on alum calipers with rotors, pads, and lines.
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I don't think its the aluminum that makes the different its a solid caliper with 6 pistons. What I mean is that even if it was a 2 piston but a solid caliper instead of floating design it would apply more pressure not to mention that a 4, 6, 8 piston designs simply distributes the pressure all over the pad for even bite, a bite that one caliper on one side cannot provide.
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Old 04-23-2007, 08:24 PM
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I wasn't eluding to the aluminum making a difference it was just to differentiate from stock. I understand the even pressure/load that multiple pistons can offer, however I am not convinced it always works especially from pieces cobbled from other car kits. My point is that I have seen enough BBK's that don't perform and don't see why throwing brakes that "fit" on would perform better than stock without "tuning" the whole braking system ie bias and rear upgrade.
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Old 04-24-2007, 06:00 AM
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^^ ok, BBK kits are not for everybody, just like 22" rims. I mean we can go back and forth as there are pros and cons to everyting.

As far as upgrading stock calipers with better pads and SS lines, its a no brainer and would def help.
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The upgrade i proposed for the rear is merely vented calipers. Right now on ebay, there are G35/350Z calipers front and rear FS. Its a slight upgrade from stock, and it bolts right on. I was merely suggesting, that even buying rear calipers for the Max from a G/Z will give vented discs as opposed to solid disc, which helps dissipate heat, even though rears dont work as hard. It wont affect bias since they are the same size discs and our brakes compensate for bias anyway.
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I can score some rear calipers on ebay for a price. The seller asked me to make offer. Any suggestions? Are we sure these will fit out car?
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Old 04-24-2007, 02:35 PM
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They'll fit, I take it your painting them to match.
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Originally Posted by Nietzsche
They'll fit, I take it your painting them to match.
Yes, and it will be easier when they are off the car. Im looking to score some cross drilled, slotted rotors too. Know of a good cheap place to get em?
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Old 04-24-2007, 10:31 PM
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ebay for cheapo or pm the guy from racingbrake(I forget his name) for quality stuff.
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I think thats the same guy I am going to get 2 piece front rotors from. Its hard to find just rear rotors on ebay.
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Old 04-24-2007, 10:41 PM
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Old 04-25-2007, 08:04 AM
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Are these the single piston calipers that you are looking at deus?
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I am looking at some on ebay. Seller is selling front and rears for G35. Seller said he'd sell me the rears only
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I have some 350z rotors coming to me, but the hub on the rotor is painted red!!! Im wondering if stock calipers will fit since its barely wider than the Maxima rotors
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I've thought about that, but it is twice the thickness if I remember correctly.
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I think ours are .39" and the 350z rotors are .60". Is that enough play to work with. By the way, here is a pic of the rotors I'm getting (red):
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.35" to .63", I highly doubt there is that much play but you never know.
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I got calipers on ebay and my gorgeous red rotors are waiting here. Ill keep you all posted with the swap.
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Originally Posted by DeusExMaxima
I got calipers on ebay and my gorgeous red rotors are waiting here. Ill keep you all posted with the swap.
Whats the word on this bro?
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Originally Posted by kamilkluczewski
Whats the word on this bro?
He just gave you an update........lol

KAM-clear your inbox!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by !PrjctMax!
He just gave you an update........lol

KAM-clear your inbox!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL.... ok done. My advice.

1. go to Google.com
2. click on maps
3. click on 'get directions'
4. from: New York, New York
5. to: Paris, France
6. read line #24 of the directions.

Take #24 to heart.

Then

Hee hee, this is funny

u like person
another to it send, retard a
like this reading time ****
sweet ur took u Since

Now read it backwards

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Originally Posted by kamilkluczewski
LOL.... ok done. My advice.

1. go to Google.com
2. click on maps
3. click on 'get directions'
4. from: New York, New York
5. to: Paris, France
6. read line #24 of the directions.

Take #24 to heart.

Then

Hee hee, this is funny

u like person
another to it send, retard a
like this reading time ****
sweet ur took u Since

Now read it backwards

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ale kurwa fani!
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My calipers are due to arrive on Wednesday.
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Originally Posted by !PrjctMax!
ale kurwa fani!
total zajebiscie
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Originally Posted by kamilkluczewski
total zajebiscie
and kak dela too
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Originally Posted by DeusExMaxima
and kak dela too
Is that supposed to be Polski....?
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Originally Posted by !PrjctMax!
Is that supposed to be Polski....?
I think that was an attampt at ruski.
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