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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 12:39 PM
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Bulletproof engine

What makes our VQ35's so darn indestructable? I went through a chevrolet impala in about a year and a half. Whats the deal here. Had my 05 maxima SE since new and 67,000 miles later not a single problem?
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 12:39 PM
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Bulletproof vest.
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 12:41 PM
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You just jinxed yourself.
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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there just built really well.
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 01:06 PM
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GM VS ANY JAPAN MARKET CAR= JAPAN ON TOP!

I have owned 2 gm cars and 3 japanese car (300zx 2k5 Maxi and 2000 Civc SI) and hands down all my gm american cars ALWAYS had problems... the older american cars were great but now they cut corners on CERTAIN cars and it really shows...

VQ35 is such a great strong fast sexy engine
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 01:18 PM
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NO wonder the VQ has been on the list of world's 10 best engines for some 12-13 years.
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 01:32 PM
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at VQ35DE being bullet proof. If you think your engine is good, check out a VQ30...
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
at VQ35DE being bullet proof. If you think your engine is good, check out a VQ30...

cant argue with u
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
at VQ35DE being bullet proof. If you think your engine is good, check out a VQ30...
and here we go with the 30 vs 35 argument again...

My brother has an 01, I have an 02... we do this all the time. Truth is they both have their pros and cons... although as far as being "bulletproof", I think the 30 comes out on top there...
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Rydicule
and here we go with the 30 vs 35 argument again...

My brother has an 01, I have an 02... we do this all the time. Truth is they both have their pros and cons... although as far as being "bulletproof", I think the 30 comes out on top there...

I wasn't trying to start an argument, even you agreed the 30 comes out on top. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to do a VQ35 swap in my car...
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 02:22 PM
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so its settled ...

30 is you want to put 282302039239 miles on your ride

35 if u want to put 2802082803082 at a faster pace :P
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 02:25 PM
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Why does the 30 come out over the 35?
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SickSE
Why does the 30 come out over the 35?

Don't question it, just accept it.
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Fastmax05
so its settled ...

30 is you want to put 282302039239 miles on your ride

35 if u want to put 2802082803082 at a faster pace :P
Exactly As for the other parts nissan attached to the car, they might not make it that far
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 02:30 PM
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ahhah all this chat is funny.. i wont have the car for more than 2 years im sure... next up m35 or m45 if im doing well :
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 03:14 PM
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LOL, ok 30 owners im sure its durable but get off us 35's. If you wanna be like that about it. Nowhere close to the 35. Not calling anyone out inperticular but the ego of the 3/0 gotta go.
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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do 10 or 15%
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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do 10 or 15%
Be a little more specific.......
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SickSE
What makes our VQ35's so darn indestructable? I went through a chevrolet impala in about a year and a half. Whats the deal here. Had my 05 maxima SE since new and 67,000 miles later not a single problem?
Your nuckin futs if you think this engine is bullet proof!!

http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/200...to-engine.html

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=vq35+oil&meta=

Sorry to disapoint but this engine is a POS. The most reliable engine all though with a lot less HP.

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=...ries+III&meta=

futnucking nissan.... saved $0.10 per engine and went with cheap Piston Rings and even cheaper Catalytic Converters.

BAHHH!!!!

No comment.

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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 04:10 PM
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kAM: that sucks man.. but...

every company will put out a few bad engines. thats given... for the most part form what i have seen... the vq35 has been a very strong reliable einge ... maybe i dont hear the ***** stories
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 04:14 PM
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I was about to say the 3800 series from GM is the best engine around...you beat me to the point kamski
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 04:25 PM
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Why dont we ask Soonerfan and Silvermaxx what they think of the 3.5.

My 96 VQ30 I put 190k on. The 3.5 in my 03 does not have ring issues yet, runs strong and is more powerful.

I just like the VQ series, 3.0 or 3.5 or now 3.7(want one)
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 04:25 PM
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had the 3800 in an old impala, not nearly as smooth but i mean........i guess :-/.
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 04:41 PM
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Holly Carp Batman! Kamski, Sorry to hear about all your problems man! Maybe I should check my oil consuption too. I've been getting carpy gas mileage lately. I have about 72K Kms on my ride. By the way are you guys having a hot summer in lower Ont? Montreal is up and down one day warm next day cool never seen a summer like this....weird. It was 36C today although not a record.

PEACE!
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 04:45 PM
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We have one in my moms 99 Boneville. It just died after 361K after she drove to work and tried to come back with only 1L of oil in it. (Drail plug tore off).

So we ended up buying a used one with 44K on it and it was installed. Only to have the tranny blow up on my dad on his trip to Boston this week. (at some repair shop in Boston right now).... also survived 361K.

Anywhoo, so the car is good for at least 2 more years before it needs replacing.

And yeah the temps here have been crazy, I was drenched from sweat at work today.

Kamski
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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I'm just one person, so am not a very 'broad cross-section' on which to judge. But I do have one of each (3.0 in a '00 SE and 3.5 in a '04 SL), and have had absolutely not the first whisper of a problem from either engine.

I also had the 3.0 in both my 1985 Maximas, and never had an engine problem with either one. When I let the last '85 go, the engine was running perfectly with 206,000 miles on it.

Nissan makes a very good engine. But it is not designed as a NASCAR engine, and those who drive it as such should expect a trip to the garage between each race. Just sayin.
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Fastmax05
LIke i stated in the above... i had a 91 300zx ... I bought it from my father with around 75k on it... ran great except for a fuel injector problem.. but that was just once..it was a pricey one time thing....Replaced all of them because we were in there... but yea... vq30 is a great engine also
Since when does a 91 300 zx have anything to do with a VQ?
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by lightonthehill
I'm just one person, so am not a very 'broad cross-section' on which to judge. But I do have one of each (3.0 in a '00 SE and 3.5 in a '04 SL), and have had absolutely not the first whisper of a problem from either engine.

I also had the 3.0 in both my 1985 Maximas, and never had an engine problem with either one. When I let the last '85 go, the engine was running perfectly with 206,000 miles on it.

Nissan makes a very good engine. But it is not designed as a NASCAR engine, and those who drive it as such should expect a trip to the garage between each race. Just sayin.
GENERAL, your boys in Iraq drive the siht out of thier humvees and they abuse the hell out of those engines, but oddly enough that one part is the thing that requires the least amount of maintenance. Oddity or just good GM engineering? I ask you....

Now I understand if u beat the hell out of any motor it will suffer damage however, I dont see half as many bad things about the GM 3800 as I do about the Vq35. Now if Nissan spent a few more $ per motor, better rings, throttle body screws, header design. Their motors would absolutely dominate.

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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 05:49 PM
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How the car is driven has a lot to do with engine life, and some of you know that. If you drive it like you stole it or track your car, you should be very **** about maintenance. In Kams case, it wasn't the engine that caused it's own failure. As for the oil consumption goes, if you run the engine often and constantly at or near redline, it will burn oil. W/ and engine like the VQ35, it's easy and fun to do; but the GM 3800 and it's low revving and compression, there's no fun in it and sonuds like crap.
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How the car is driven has a lot to do with engine life, and some of you know that. If you drive it like you stole it or track your car, you should be very **** about maintenance. In Kams case, it wasn't the engine that caused it's own failure. As for the oil consumption goes, if you run the engine often and constantly at or near redline, it will burn oil. W/ and engine like the VQ35, it's easy and fun to do; but the GM 3800 and it's low revving and compression, there's no fun in it and sonuds like crap.
How do faulty piston rings, that spew oil onto a pre-cat, causing it to fail and get sucked back into the engine not cause its own failure??

The motor gets only synthetic fluilds only and at very specific intervals. If you think your motor will last babying it.....

I didnt realize how bad this problem was until I started hopping around various forums. 350z, G35, Quest, Altima.... many are having the same issue.

The ford 4.6L engines we have at work, get redlined at least 30-40 times per day, and run non stop 24/7. Yet they dont get overhauled until 150,000km.

You telling me if the maxima was used as a fleet vehicle it would survive that? Man your dreaming. Sihtty design.. plain and simple. Thease are not the bulletproof engines from the vq30 days.

Do whatever, drive like a grandma, drive like you stole it. Point is, good engine should survive 150,000km easily under most severe conditions.

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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Since when does a 91 300 zx have anything to do with a VQ?

ha ha 300zx have VG motors.
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 08:09 PM
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How do faulty piston rings, that spew oil onto a pre-cat, causing it to fail and get sucked back into the engine not cause its own failure??

The motor gets only synthetic fluilds only and at very specific intervals. If you think your motor will last babying it.....

I didnt realize how bad this problem was until I started hopping around various forums. 350z, G35, Quest, Altima.... many are having the same issue.

The ford 4.6L engines we have at work, get redlined at least 30-40 times per day, and run non stop 24/7. Yet they dont get overhauled until 150,000km.

You telling me if the maxima was used as a fleet vehicle it would survive that? Man your dreaming. Sihtty design.. plain and simple. Thease are not the bulletproof engines from the vq30 days.

Do whatever, drive like a grandma, drive like you stole it. Point is, good engine should survive 150,000km easily under most severe conditions.

Kamski
I never said it will last by babying it, but it will last longer than when pushed often. Sorry to hear the problem with yours, but by hopping around, most of the posts you see will be nagative, since when things are good, no one complains.
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by kamilkluczewski
Sihtty design.. plain and simple. Thease are not the bulletproof engines from the vq30 days.
I too think the VQ series was/is poorly designed, ever since its public inception in 1994.
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 08:35 PM
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 08:48 PM
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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I personally think that nissan should've stuck with heavy iron blocks and crappy-flowing heads.


After all, VTC's = moar powah, right?
Old Jun 30, 2007 | 06:00 PM
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What makes an engine last is the endurance testing the Manufacture put the pre-production model through R&D, I've read about the different methods the foreign cars use compared to the domestic cars and just seeing how the 2 do things differently I think I'll be buying Foreign for some time.

With a brand new engine design you pretty much wanna see how much torture you can put it through to see if it will overheat/breakdown, and then you just slowly build it up to certain specs so it can withstand certain levels of daily abuse and with that said their is always consumers that will exceed those levels and destroy anything but the OEM know that.

Also from what I've read current engines with their increased Hp/Tq and higher compression are more high performance engines that need more care and maintanance, gone are the heavy duty engines that could be abused and neglected.
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I thought that 3800 from GM was a 350 V8 with 2 cylinders cut off or is that the V6 found in the old Blazers and those RWD Safari vans, and the Crown Vics lets not ever compare them to the Maxima
Old Jun 30, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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I had a 92 max and drove it to 260k miles with no engine problems. The alternator blew twice and the tranny started slipping. But i wrecked it before anything seriously wrong happened.
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Well, I've upgraded from the 2003 Corolla to a 2007 Altima 3.5SE 6-spd (LOVE IT!!!)

Anyhow - I can't see what would cause the VQ to start using oil. I mean - as long as the rings are seated correctly to begin with at the factory and oil usage and compression are normal from the start, why would rings all of a sudden wear??

Doesn't make sense...there would have to be some kind of defect in manufacturing (in which case, the oil usage wouldn't be a sudden onset, but more of a gradual onset), or these oil using engine aren't maintained properly. Either driven hard before warmed up (majority of all engine failures are caused by loading down a cold engine) or allowing oil level to drop and driving it around low on oil.

What is the culprit with the oil usage....rather than just saying it's a flawed engine....WHAT about the engine is flawed?? Cylinder bores misaligned, piston wear, main or rod bearings wearing out, detonation damage???

Gotta be a specific problem to cause this...anyone got any ideas??

My VQ has 2500 miles on it, so far. It has seen redline MANY MANY MANY times and after 1000 miles, oil usage dropped to NONE. It wasn't babied during break-in, but it wasn't abused, either. It used about 1/2 quart of oil up until 1000 miles, then suddenly the oil usage went to nil. I check EVERY day and will continue to do so for quite some time. The oil using engines - how often was the oil checked???

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