Bulletproof engine
GM VS ANY JAPAN MARKET CAR= JAPAN ON TOP!
I have owned 2 gm cars and 3 japanese car (300zx 2k5 Maxi and 2000 Civc SI) and hands down all my gm american cars ALWAYS had problems... the older american cars were great but now they cut corners on CERTAIN cars and it really shows...
VQ35 is such a great strong fast sexy engine
I have owned 2 gm cars and 3 japanese car (300zx 2k5 Maxi and 2000 Civc SI) and hands down all my gm american cars ALWAYS had problems... the older american cars were great but now they cut corners on CERTAIN cars and it really shows...
VQ35 is such a great strong fast sexy engine
Originally Posted by Kevlo911
at VQ35DE being bullet proof. If you think your engine is good, check out a VQ30...
My brother has an 01, I have an 02... we do this all the time. Truth is they both have their pros and cons... although as far as being "bulletproof", I think the 30 comes out on top there...
Originally Posted by Rydicule
and here we go with the 30 vs 35 argument again... 
My brother has an 01, I have an 02... we do this all the time. Truth is they both have their pros and cons... although as far as being "bulletproof", I think the 30 comes out on top there...

My brother has an 01, I have an 02... we do this all the time. Truth is they both have their pros and cons... although as far as being "bulletproof", I think the 30 comes out on top there...
I wasn't trying to start an argument, even you agreed the 30 comes out on top. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to do a VQ35 swap in my car...
Originally Posted by Fastmax05
so its settled
...
30 is you want to put 282302039239 miles on your ride
35 if u want to put 2802082803082 at a faster pace :P
...30 is you want to put 282302039239 miles on your ride
35 if u want to put 2802082803082 at a faster pace :P
As for the other parts nissan attached to the car, they might not make it that far
Originally Posted by SickSE
What makes our VQ35's so darn indestructable? I went through a chevrolet impala in about a year and a half. Whats the deal here. Had my 05 maxima SE since new and 67,000 miles later not a single problem?
http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/200...to-engine.html
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=vq35+oil&meta=
Sorry to disapoint but this engine is a POS. The most reliable engine all though with a lot less HP.
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=...ries+III&meta=
futnucking nissan.... saved $0.10 per engine and went with cheap Piston Rings and even cheaper Catalytic Converters.
BAHHH!!!!
No comment.
Kamski
kAM: that sucks man.. but...
every company will put out a few bad engines. thats given... for the most part form what i have seen... the vq35 has been a very strong reliable einge ... maybe i dont hear the ***** stories
every company will put out a few bad engines. thats given... for the most part form what i have seen... the vq35 has been a very strong reliable einge ... maybe i dont hear the ***** stories
Why dont we ask Soonerfan and Silvermaxx what they think of the 3.5.
My 96 VQ30 I put 190k on. The 3.5 in my 03 does not have ring issues yet, runs strong and is more powerful.
I just like the VQ series, 3.0 or 3.5 or now 3.7(want one)
My 96 VQ30 I put 190k on. The 3.5 in my 03 does not have ring issues yet, runs strong and is more powerful.
I just like the VQ series, 3.0 or 3.5 or now 3.7(want one)
Holly Carp Batman! Kamski, Sorry to hear about all your problems man! Maybe I should check my oil consuption too. I've been getting carpy gas mileage lately. I have about 72K Kms on my ride. By the way are you guys having a hot summer in lower Ont? Montreal is up and down one day warm next day cool never seen a summer like this....weird. It was 36C today although not a record.
PEACE!
PEACE!
We have one in my moms 99 Boneville. It just died after 361K after she drove to work and tried to come back with only 1L of oil in it. (Drail plug tore off).
So we ended up buying a used one with 44K on it and it was installed. Only to have the tranny blow up on my dad on his trip to Boston this week. (at some repair shop in Boston right now).... also survived 361K.
Anywhoo, so the car is good for at least 2 more years before it needs replacing.
And yeah the temps here have been crazy, I was drenched from sweat at work today.
Kamski
So we ended up buying a used one with 44K on it and it was installed. Only to have the tranny blow up on my dad on his trip to Boston this week. (at some repair shop in Boston right now).... also survived 361K.
Anywhoo, so the car is good for at least 2 more years before it needs replacing.
And yeah the temps here have been crazy, I was drenched from sweat at work today.
Kamski
I'm just one person, so am not a very 'broad cross-section' on which to judge. But I do have one of each (3.0 in a '00 SE and 3.5 in a '04 SL), and have had absolutely not the first whisper of a problem from either engine.
I also had the 3.0 in both my 1985 Maximas, and never had an engine problem with either one. When I let the last '85 go, the engine was running perfectly with 206,000 miles on it.
Nissan makes a very good engine. But it is not designed as a NASCAR engine, and those who drive it as such should expect a trip to the garage between each race. Just sayin.
I also had the 3.0 in both my 1985 Maximas, and never had an engine problem with either one. When I let the last '85 go, the engine was running perfectly with 206,000 miles on it.
Nissan makes a very good engine. But it is not designed as a NASCAR engine, and those who drive it as such should expect a trip to the garage between each race. Just sayin.
Originally Posted by Fastmax05
LIke i stated in the above... i had a 91 300zx ... I bought it from my father with around 75k on it... ran great except for a fuel injector problem.. but that was just once..it was a pricey one time thing....Replaced all of them because we were in there... but yea... vq30 is a great engine also
Originally Posted by lightonthehill
I'm just one person, so am not a very 'broad cross-section' on which to judge. But I do have one of each (3.0 in a '00 SE and 3.5 in a '04 SL), and have had absolutely not the first whisper of a problem from either engine.
I also had the 3.0 in both my 1985 Maximas, and never had an engine problem with either one. When I let the last '85 go, the engine was running perfectly with 206,000 miles on it.
Nissan makes a very good engine. But it is not designed as a NASCAR engine, and those who drive it as such should expect a trip to the garage between each race. Just sayin.
I also had the 3.0 in both my 1985 Maximas, and never had an engine problem with either one. When I let the last '85 go, the engine was running perfectly with 206,000 miles on it.
Nissan makes a very good engine. But it is not designed as a NASCAR engine, and those who drive it as such should expect a trip to the garage between each race. Just sayin.
Now I understand if u beat the hell out of any motor it will suffer damage however, I dont see half as many bad things about the GM 3800 as I do about the Vq35. Now if Nissan spent a few more $ per motor, better rings, throttle body screws, header design. Their motors would absolutely dominate.
Kamski
Kamski
How the car is driven has a lot to do with engine life, and some of you know that. If you drive it like you stole it or track your car, you should be very **** about maintenance. In Kams case, it wasn't the engine that caused it's own failure. As for the oil consumption goes, if you run the engine often and constantly at or near redline, it will burn oil. W/ and engine like the VQ35, it's easy and fun to do; but the GM 3800 and it's low revving and compression, there's no fun in it and sonuds like crap.
Originally Posted by RHMax
How the car is driven has a lot to do with engine life, and some of you know that. If you drive it like you stole it or track your car, you should be very **** about maintenance. In Kams case, it wasn't the engine that caused it's own failure. As for the oil consumption goes, if you run the engine often and constantly at or near redline, it will burn oil. W/ and engine like the VQ35, it's easy and fun to do; but the GM 3800 and it's low revving and compression, there's no fun in it and sonuds like crap.
The motor gets only synthetic fluilds only and at very specific intervals. If you think your motor will last babying it.....
I didnt realize how bad this problem was until I started hopping around various forums. 350z, G35, Quest, Altima.... many are having the same issue.
The ford 4.6L engines we have at work, get redlined at least 30-40 times per day, and run non stop 24/7. Yet they dont get overhauled until 150,000km.
You telling me if the maxima was used as a fleet vehicle it would survive that? Man your dreaming. Sihtty design.. plain and simple. Thease are not the bulletproof engines from the vq30 days.
Do whatever, drive like a grandma, drive like you stole it. Point is, good engine should survive 150,000km easily under most severe conditions.
Kamski
Originally Posted by kamilkluczewski
How do faulty piston rings, that spew oil onto a pre-cat, causing it to fail and get sucked back into the engine not cause its own failure??
The motor gets only synthetic fluilds only and at very specific intervals. If you think your motor will last babying it.....
I didnt realize how bad this problem was until I started hopping around various forums. 350z, G35, Quest, Altima.... many are having the same issue.
The ford 4.6L engines we have at work, get redlined at least 30-40 times per day, and run non stop 24/7. Yet they dont get overhauled until 150,000km.
You telling me if the maxima was used as a fleet vehicle it would survive that? Man your dreaming. Sihtty design.. plain and simple. Thease are not the bulletproof engines from the vq30 days.
Do whatever, drive like a grandma, drive like you stole it. Point is, good engine should survive 150,000km easily under most severe conditions.
Kamski
The motor gets only synthetic fluilds only and at very specific intervals. If you think your motor will last babying it.....
I didnt realize how bad this problem was until I started hopping around various forums. 350z, G35, Quest, Altima.... many are having the same issue.
The ford 4.6L engines we have at work, get redlined at least 30-40 times per day, and run non stop 24/7. Yet they dont get overhauled until 150,000km.
You telling me if the maxima was used as a fleet vehicle it would survive that? Man your dreaming. Sihtty design.. plain and simple. Thease are not the bulletproof engines from the vq30 days.
Do whatever, drive like a grandma, drive like you stole it. Point is, good engine should survive 150,000km easily under most severe conditions.
Kamski
Originally Posted by kamilkluczewski
Sihtty design.. plain and simple. Thease are not the bulletproof engines from the vq30 days.
What makes an engine last is the endurance testing the Manufacture put the pre-production model through R&D, I've read about the different methods the foreign cars use compared to the domestic cars and just seeing how the 2 do things differently I think I'll be buying Foreign for some time.
With a brand new engine design you pretty much wanna see how much torture you can put it through to see if it will overheat/breakdown, and then you just slowly build it up to certain specs so it can withstand certain levels of daily abuse and with that said their is always consumers that will exceed those levels and destroy anything but the OEM know that.
Also from what I've read current engines with their increased Hp/Tq and higher compression are more high performance engines that need more care and maintanance, gone are the heavy duty engines that could be abused and neglected.
With a brand new engine design you pretty much wanna see how much torture you can put it through to see if it will overheat/breakdown, and then you just slowly build it up to certain specs so it can withstand certain levels of daily abuse and with that said their is always consumers that will exceed those levels and destroy anything but the OEM know that.
Also from what I've read current engines with their increased Hp/Tq and higher compression are more high performance engines that need more care and maintanance, gone are the heavy duty engines that could be abused and neglected.
I thought that 3800 from GM was a 350 V8 with 2 cylinders cut off or is that the V6 found in the old Blazers and those RWD Safari vans, and the Crown Vics lets not ever compare them to the Maxima
Well, I've upgraded from the 2003 Corolla to a 2007 Altima 3.5SE 6-spd (LOVE IT!!!)
Anyhow - I can't see what would cause the VQ to start using oil. I mean - as long as the rings are seated correctly to begin with at the factory and oil usage and compression are normal from the start, why would rings all of a sudden wear??
Doesn't make sense...there would have to be some kind of defect in manufacturing (in which case, the oil usage wouldn't be a sudden onset, but more of a gradual onset), or these oil using engine aren't maintained properly. Either driven hard before warmed up (majority of all engine failures are caused by loading down a cold engine) or allowing oil level to drop and driving it around low on oil.
What is the culprit with the oil usage....rather than just saying it's a flawed engine....WHAT about the engine is flawed?? Cylinder bores misaligned, piston wear, main or rod bearings wearing out, detonation damage???
Gotta be a specific problem to cause this...anyone got any ideas??
My VQ has 2500 miles on it, so far. It has seen redline MANY MANY MANY times and after 1000 miles, oil usage dropped to NONE. It wasn't babied during break-in, but it wasn't abused, either. It used about 1/2 quart of oil up until 1000 miles, then suddenly the oil usage went to nil. I check EVERY day and will continue to do so for quite some time. The oil using engines - how often was the oil checked???
Late,
Trav
Anyhow - I can't see what would cause the VQ to start using oil. I mean - as long as the rings are seated correctly to begin with at the factory and oil usage and compression are normal from the start, why would rings all of a sudden wear??
Doesn't make sense...there would have to be some kind of defect in manufacturing (in which case, the oil usage wouldn't be a sudden onset, but more of a gradual onset), or these oil using engine aren't maintained properly. Either driven hard before warmed up (majority of all engine failures are caused by loading down a cold engine) or allowing oil level to drop and driving it around low on oil.
What is the culprit with the oil usage....rather than just saying it's a flawed engine....WHAT about the engine is flawed?? Cylinder bores misaligned, piston wear, main or rod bearings wearing out, detonation damage???
Gotta be a specific problem to cause this...anyone got any ideas??
My VQ has 2500 miles on it, so far. It has seen redline MANY MANY MANY times and after 1000 miles, oil usage dropped to NONE. It wasn't babied during break-in, but it wasn't abused, either. It used about 1/2 quart of oil up until 1000 miles, then suddenly the oil usage went to nil. I check EVERY day and will continue to do so for quite some time. The oil using engines - how often was the oil checked???
Late,
Trav
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