EBC Red Stuff vs Hawk HPS Pads
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EBC Red Stuff vs Hawk HPS Pads
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Well after some good talks with Chernmax on the rotorpro's drilled/slotted; I have decided to purchase those (thanks a lot Chern). But after I cop the rotors, the seller suggested to go with the Hawk HPS pads vice the EBC Red Stuff (Yeah I copied all from you Chern!! lololol). I was just trying to see what feedback you guys have on the Hawk HPS. The seller was going to give me full set front and rear for $140.00 and the EBC's were $138 and some change. Anybody have the Hawk HPS pads? Thanks homies!!
Well after some good talks with Chernmax on the rotorpro's drilled/slotted; I have decided to purchase those (thanks a lot Chern). But after I cop the rotors, the seller suggested to go with the Hawk HPS pads vice the EBC Red Stuff (Yeah I copied all from you Chern!! lololol). I was just trying to see what feedback you guys have on the Hawk HPS. The seller was going to give me full set front and rear for $140.00 and the EBC's were $138 and some change. Anybody have the Hawk HPS pads? Thanks homies!!
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I have Hawk HPS pads in my 300zx TT calipers. I dont believe they have ever faded and this is under extreme conditions. They did squeal like a pig for many months until they settled down.
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Originally Posted by DeusExMaxima
I have Hawk HPS pads in my 300zx TT calipers. I dont believe they have ever faded and this is under extreme conditions. They did squeal like a pig for many months until they settled down.
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Originally Posted by S_Klass
Hawk HPS is considered a step up from EBC line of pads. Accepted by most as a competent Aggressive Street/ Moderate Track pad, it should be up to the task!
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Originally Posted by GrimMax
Thanks for the info. But what material are the Hawk HPS pads? I thought ceramic are the best right now? ![slant](https://maxima.org/forums/images/smilies/slant.gif)
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I have the Hawk pads with the same rotors that you are buying and have tested them on my drive from Brooklyn, NY to South Florida. I have no problems to report. I also used them on my old rotors. Hardly any brake dust.
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I actually endorse Hawk HPS because of the excellent quality, but me being me, I also like to test other performance brake pads and have been extremely pleased with the EBC's ceramic "Red Stuff" as well as my last set of Hawks...
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Originally Posted by chernmax
I actually endorse Hawk HPS because of the excellent quality, but me being me, I also like to test other performance brake pads and have been extremely pleased with the EBC's ceramic "Red Stuff" as well as my last set of Hawks...
Thanks Chern!!
Cool Cool then I got some good ones then!! Also, with your drilled/ slotted.... DO you actually notice the difference in stopping power?
Do you recommend a change of my brake fluid when I put mine on?
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Brake fluid change is a good idea, especially if you're going to upgrade your other components of the brakes. Brake fluid is a dessicant - it absorbs moisture. Moisture in brake fluid LOWERS boiling temps which causes brake fade. Get the best fluid you can.
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Originally Posted by DeusExMaxima
Brake fluid change is a good idea, especially if you're going to upgrade your other components of the brakes. Brake fluid is a dessicant - it absorbs moisture. Moisture in brake fluid LOWERS boiling temps which causes brake fade. Get the best fluid you can.
I check your post today at work and went and bought the Valvoline Brake Fluid for Dot 3 & 4 cars. Well... tomorrow morning I am dropping the car off to get the rotors, pads and paint the calipers. I will post pics after done. Thanks again homie!!!
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Originally Posted by GrimMax
Thanks Chern!!
Cool Cool then I got some good ones then!! Also, with your drilled/ slotted.... DO you actually notice the difference in stopping power?
Do you recommend a change of my brake fluid when I put mine on?
Cool Cool then I got some good ones then!! Also, with your drilled/ slotted.... DO you actually notice the difference in stopping power?
Do you recommend a change of my brake fluid when I put mine on?
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Maybe this is a dumb question, but what color are the actual Hawk and EBC pads? With the stock calipers and my wheels, you can see the things sticking out like a sore thumb. Even when I paint the calipers, the pads will be able to be seen...
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Originally Posted by cyclopsmd
Maybe this is a dumb question, but what color are the actual Hawk and EBC pads? With the stock calipers and my wheels, you can see the things sticking out like a sore thumb. Even when I paint the calipers, the pads will be able to be seen...
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Originally Posted by roro
where/how did you get the 4 rotors for $140?
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Originally Posted by cyclopsmd
Maybe this is a dumb question, but what color are the actual Hawk and EBC pads? With the stock calipers and my wheels, you can see the things sticking out like a sore thumb. Even when I paint the calipers, the pads will be able to be seen...
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Originally Posted by chernmax
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Originally Posted by roro
i did see that on ebay, but 155+41 is not quite 140... so again i ask where/how can you get all 4 for 140?
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Originally Posted by cyclopsmd
Thanks for the info guys. I went with the EBC red stuff. I painted my calipers black, and I think they came out looking pretty good. Thanks again...
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What about EBC's Yellow Stuff? It has a frictional coefficient of .6, while the reds are .5 and so are many other brakes, idk about the HPS' though. The yellow stuff is rated for I think track use along with street use so, good enough for mE!
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#28
Originally Posted by JG1
Which pads put off lower dust...the EBC red stuff or Hawk HPS?
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Originally Posted by roro
i did see that on ebay, but 155+41 is not quite 140... so again i ask where/how can you get all 4 for 140?
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Originally Posted by GrimMax
So far, I have had a little dust from the Hawk HPS compared to those OEM pads. But i think the EBC's would be right about the same if they are both ceramic.
"Well as for EBC RED STUFF pads, we do not recommend them at all. They are ceramic and ceramic pads have proven to be harsh on rotors and cause premature wear and tear. The fact that your rotors will be drilled and slotted, they alone will create less dust. There is no pads out there that has "NO DUST" that is all part of the wearing of pads and rotors. We found the Hawk pads to be great in the dust area."
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I had the Hawks and changed to the EBC Red Stuff just to see the difference, other than the fact the EBC's did have less dust, the pads perform about the same however IMO the EBC's seem to get better the longer I have them. After some more mileage, I'll be able to make a better assessment good or bad...
One bonus with the Hawks is they cost less...
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One bonus with the Hawks is they cost less...
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