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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 07:27 AM
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How to change settings in a 07-08 Maxima w/o navi?

In a 04-06 Maxima with or without navi, there is a "settings" button in the middle of the dash just below the audio screen. This button helps to change different settings, such as:

Turn service alert on or off
Set remote unlock door logic
Set auto relock time
Set auto headlight sensitivity
Set auto headlight off delay
Set speed sensitive wiper interval

and a few others.

A complete list of what can be done using this "settings" button is well documented in the sticky http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=311430

However, in a 07-08 Maxima this "settings" button is missing if the car is not equipped with navi. Do any of you have a clue how to change the above settings in a 07-08 Maxima without navi?

I am particularly interested in setting the auto headlight off delay. Currently, the headlights remain on for 40 secs after I close all doors. I want it to go off as soon as I close all doors. How do I do that other than manually turning them off?
Old Oct 26, 2007 | 09:58 AM
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I'm extremely interested in this one as well!
Old Oct 26, 2007 | 10:11 AM
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me too this would be helpful info for 07 owners
Old Oct 27, 2007 | 08:11 AM
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Have tried contacting two Nissan dealers regarding this but none have a clue. I have little faith in their knowledge though.

I emailed Nissan the question. Lets see when they reply. Will keep you updated.

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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 10:18 AM
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yeah its like those options are gone from the 07..I asked how to set it to remind me about oil changes, but no one knows..I don't think its there, looks like they removed it.
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i'm certain only NAV has the oil/tire reminders...

but did you packages list entry/exit assist, SSWipers, etc?
even the 03 has the remote setting, but the dealer set it.

dealer has to be able to set your Auto light sensitivity and timing.
contact Nissan: http://www.nissanusa.com/apps/contactus
I can't locate the direct emails to the head hanchos, but i'll keep looking.
Old Oct 31, 2007 | 08:24 AM
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I talked to someone supposedly knowledgable at the dealership where I bought my max and she told me that there is no way to change the settings by myself if I do not have navi. The only way to do it is to hook it up with a computer at the dealership. However, she said it is free if the car is within base warranty (i.e. 3yrs/36k miles).

It is so weird that Nissan got rid of this feature in 07-08 but had it in 04-06. I think its a ploy to make customers purchase navi.
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thats bs. i would stress the point that this was not told to you upon purchase. way to go Nissan giving more opportunity for dealers to make $$.

at least u found this out sooner than later...
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Originally Posted by bb700092
It is so weird that Nissan got rid of this feature in 07-08 but had it in 04-06. I think its a ploy to make customers purchase navi.
possibly, but they're not using it verbally as a selling point. I think it's more the result of EVERYONE complaining about the orange screen. THAT was what Nissan used to make customers get NAV imo.

I like the orange screen. still better than many other standard displays out there, tho not the best. and yeah I really liked the NAV, but not for $2k more. and if I really wanted it, more like $5k more since it had to be ordered, not off the lot.

hey but u have an MP3 jack! and no tape deck!
Old Oct 31, 2007 | 08:56 AM
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possibly, but they're not using it verbally as a selling point. I think it's more the result of EVERYONE complaining about the orange screen. THAT was what Nissan used to make customers get NAV imo.

I like the orange screen. still better than many other standard displays out there, tho not the best. and yeah I really liked the NAV, but not for $2k more. and if I really wanted it, more like $5k more since it had to be ordered, not off the lot.

hey but u have an MP3 jack! and no tape deck!

Its true the salesman didn't tell me about this before selling. I doubt he knew about it because I have called at least 5 Nissan dealers and none of them knew about this. All of them said either "Look at the manual" or "I have to look at the manual". But if the salesman had told me beforehand, I most probably would have gotten a max with navi spending $1800 more. More than the color, I hate the big and very unsophisticated display of letters/alphabets on the screen.

Anyway, for now I will change the auto headlight off delay from 40 secs to 0 sec, i.e. it will turn off as soon as I shut all doors. Do you think I should change anything else?

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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 09:21 AM
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I would look through the display thread and take notes.
I played with them until I got everything how I liked.
Turn seat off (all the way back already)
remote-1 driver, 2 all
chirp when lock, blink when unlock
relock 5 min (in case i unlock accidentally or lower windows while outside)
headlights off at close
sensitivity 2 (i think)
SSW: on (wipers)
Old Oct 31, 2007 | 09:35 AM
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I would look through the display thread and take notes.
I played with them until I got everything how I liked.
Turn seat off (all the way back already)
remote-1 driver, 2 all
chirp when lock, blink when unlock
relock 5 min (in case i unlock accidentally or lower windows while outside)
headlights off at close
sensitivity 2 (i think)
SSW: on (wipers)
Thanks. That was very helpful.
Old Nov 1, 2007 | 10:30 AM
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Today a Nissan dealer (Fischer Nissan, Titusville, FL) got back to me with the info that the car needs to be hooked up to the computer to change the settings. They wouldn't do it for free but would charge the labor for the time required to do that work.
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why haven't you taken it back to where you bought it?
Old Nov 1, 2007 | 10:59 AM
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why haven't you taken it back to where you bought it?

Thats what I eventually will. I called about 5 Nissan dealers to get the info and now they are returning the calls.
Old Nov 1, 2007 | 02:58 PM
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Hmm, I'm half tempted to come up with an interface myself. Anyone know anything about the communication protocol for the Nissan computers? Is this information even out there anywhere? Or is it behind locked doors with armed guards?
Old Nov 1, 2007 | 08:11 PM
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Hmm, I'm half tempted to come up with an interface myself. Anyone know anything about the communication protocol for the Nissan computers? Is this information even out there anywhere? Or is it behind locked doors with armed guards?
That will be great. I will look closely at what the dealer does to my car.

The thing I hate most about the 07-08 display is the big and unsophisticated letters/alphabets. It couldn't have been worse. Who designs that gross display in a 30k+ car?
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 08:36 AM
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I have a 07 max w/o navi. I went to the dealer a week back, got my max hooked up to the computer and changed some of the settings, such as auto headlight off delay and speed sensitive wiper interval.

I turned the speed sensitive wiper interval to ON. It was OFF before. But I do not see any difference. I understand that by turning it ON, my wipers will work at a frequency proportional to the speed at which I am driving (as opposed to the speed it is raining). Thus, if I am driving at 10mph, they will be working slower than if I am driving at 45mph, right?

I did not notice that. How does it work in you guys' max?

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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 12:19 PM
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bb700092 - You are correct that the SSW being 'on' should result in the wiper blades speeding up slightly as speed increases, then slowing down slightly as speed decreases. I had mine set to 'on' about three years ago, and had to 'count seconds' in order to detect the difference. I turned it 'off' (for no particular reason) when resetting everything several years back.

Count me as stunned that Nissan removed the ability for the driver to quickly change these settings as of the '07 non-navi models. I mean even some Buicks, Chevys and Fords have the ability to do some of these things. Geeeze Louise.
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I'll paste my PM response to you here as well:

Lo and Hi do not change. the first setting has a varying range. only way I notice/can explain it is try the slowest setting. take notice how it rarely moves at a stop. then at highway speed, it moves a little more often. I'm not sure it's that much of a difference.
or try the fastest setting. while driving, it slightly pauses, just slower than LO. while stopped or crawling, the pause is a bit longer.
We don't have rain sensors.
Old Nov 28, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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bb700092 - You are correct that the SSW being 'on' should result in the wiper blades speeding up slightly as speed increases, then slowing down slightly as speed decreases. I had mine set to 'on' about three years ago, and had to 'count seconds' in order to detect the difference. I turned it 'off' (for no particular reason) when resetting everything several years back.

Count me as stunned that Nissan removed the ability for the driver to quickly change these settings as of the '07 non-navi models. I mean even some Buicks, Chevys and Fords have the ability to do some of these things. Geeeze Louise.
I am not surprised that you are stunned. The other day one of my colleagues rented a basic Pontiac G6. That car did not have a navi but we could see the following info:

Exact pressure of each tire (e.g. Right rear 28psi, Left front 29psi, etc.)
The door that is open (e.g. Right front, etc.)
Instantaneous mileage (e.g. when we accelerated hard, the instantaneous mileage went as low as 10mpg while it went up to 88mpg when we cruised with the foot neither on gas nor on brake)
Percentage of oil used (I am not sure how this is calculated)

Of course, it also had the standard info like average mileage, average speed, DTE, oil change reminder, low tire pressure, etc. and the driver can change those settings (the dash didn't look nice to me though). What was Nissan thinking when they decided to reduce the info from the 04-06 maxima in the 07-08 models when even less than $20k cars have them?

BTW, I think varying wiper speed based on speed of the vehicle is not very useful. I think it is much more useful to have rain sensitive wipers like the Avalon has. Ideally, I would prefer to have both at the same time

I have wireless bluetooth in my max. It is nice that I can receive calls without touching my phone. But the car's display does not show whom (or the phone number) the call is coming from even though my cell phone shows that info. The car's display simply shows "Bluetooth phone" and I have no way to reject that call unless I check out my cell. As a result, either I have to receive all incoming calls thereby wasting my day-time minutes or use the cell phone thereby not taking advantage of the bluetooth. Does it require an Einstein to figure this out? What a ridiculous design!

Is there a way for the 07-08 display (w/o navi) to be replaced by the 06 display (w/o navi)? Any info or anyone whom I can contact regarding this would be very helpful.

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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 04:17 PM
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I pick up my 08 this Saturday (1st) and I do remember my salesperson going over that so I'll touch base with him again and hopefully get everyone an answer next week. Navigation is the only thing I didn't get in this new whip, but like I said, he went over how to do it (vaguely) in the car, but I'll for sure have an answer for everyone.
Old Nov 29, 2007 | 07:10 PM
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I pick up my 08 this Saturday (1st) and I do remember my salesperson going over that so I'll touch base with him again and hopefully get everyone an answer next week. Navigation is the only thing I didn't get in this new whip, but like I said, he went over how to do it (vaguely) in the car, but I'll for sure have an answer for everyone.
Spend a $1800 more and get the navigation package. You will save a lot of headache in the long run.
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My two 1985 Maximas were my all-time favorite cars. Anyone who lived with Detroit styling and mechanical problems from 1949 until the 1980s will understand why the 'step-up' to the '85 Maxima absolutely blew me away. I drove one of them 206,000 miles with no significant problems.

Anyway, those '85 Maximas had this female voice that always alerted me with such admonitions as 'right door is open' or 'fuel is low' or 'lights are on'. I named her 'Hildegarde' (my wife called her 'Frieda' after a talky neighbor of ours), and I felt so happy, because I no longer had to remember a thing (other than my wife's birthday and our anniversary).

The point? The 2007 Maxima seems nearer the '85 Maxima than it does the '06 Maxima in this area.
Old Nov 30, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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This sucks I also have 07 Maxima, My friends 01 Jeep has all the options.
Old Nov 30, 2007 | 04:32 PM
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man our center screen is so cheap looking, the pixels are so big..also does anyone know when playing a data cd how to keep the song name up..like every time i change the song the screen shows "folder one" then i have to keep hitting song title..i want it to show the song name constantly even when changing through songs..i swear the screen is useless.
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I would like to change my head unit with DVD Nav but I really don’t want to lose all the options that are included in the original unit.
Old Nov 30, 2007 | 06:12 PM
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man our center screen is so cheap looking, the pixels are so big..also does anyone know when playing a data cd how to keep the song name up..like every time i change the song the screen shows "folder one" then i have to keep hitting song title..i want it to show the song name constantly even when changing through songs..i swear the screen is useless.
The pixels are big enough for the driver in the car behind to see what I am playing
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 05:53 PM
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It does seem strange that the older ones had it, but the 07 does not. I called the dealer and they originally said that it was not possible, then they said that they could do it if I bring the car in from them to hook it up to the computer. Nissan should have made this an option that could be handled at home rather than having to go into the dealer for everything. But the upside is that they are not going to charge me to do it, so that was some relief.
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It does seem strange that the older ones had it, but the 07 does not. I called the dealer and they originally said that it was not possible, then they said that they could do it if I bring the car in from them to hook it up to the computer. Nissan should have made this an option that could be handled at home rather than having to go into the dealer for everything. But the upside is that they are not going to charge me to do it, so that was some relief.
I think they won't charge you only for the first time. They will charge you from the second time. At least that is what my dealer told me. He said its a courtesy because I bought the car there.
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I was expecting more grief from them since I did not buy the car from them (I bought it out of state). They tend to help you a bit when you purchased it there, but so far, the local dealer has been very good to deal with.
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well you can thank the 6th gen owners that complained about the orange screen. your current screen was Nissan's answer, which does not have this option. 5th gens also have to visit the dealer to make these type of adjustments.
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Dudes,

Can we uses one of these (http://www.carmd.com/) to make the changes???? It would be well worth spending the money instead of paying the dealership to do it.

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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 07:22 PM
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Dudes,

Can we uses one of these (http://www.carmd.com/) to make the changes???? It would be well worth spending the money instead of paying the dealership to do it.
That is exactly what I thought. When I went to the dealership, the mechanic attached something like that to the car. There are two things to consider before buying such a thing with $89.99:

1. Should we be able to change anything other than the few settings using that without voiding the warranty?

2. Will that be useful for cars to come?

Of course, if the dealer is charging for changing the settings, I feel it is a good investment to buy that and do it yourself.
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1. they would never know who changed it, or even care.

2. best set is to share one, though tough.

3. ask them if it works you your Max.
Old Dec 6, 2007 | 06:49 AM
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I just fired of an email to them. We will see what their reply is.

Good day CarMD,

I am writing on behalf of over 200+ people. What we have in common is that we all own Nissan Maxima's. Particularly, 04-08 models. These cars either come with a Nav System which allows the driver to personalize several of the vehicles automated functions. Vehicles without the Nav system are required to got to the Dealership to have the settings adjusted. Our question is, can we take your product and go into the cars computer and change settings for such things as:

-turning off the automated driver controls for the driver's seat;
-turning off the horn chirp when locking, blinking of park lights when unlocking;
-re-locking the doors 5 min (in case i unlock accidentally or lower windows while outside)
-headlights turning off when car is turned off in auto headlight function; and
- and dialing in the rate of speed of the windshield wipers in conjunction with the relative speed of the vehicle?

These are some of the questions we have for your product. If your product can assist us in changing these settings, then I am certain that we should be able to work out a "group" buy deal.
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Good email. But I think the settings in 04-06 Maxima w/o navi can be changed without hooking up with a computer. The problem, as far as I know, is only with 07-08 Maxima w/o navi. Lets see what they say.
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Thanks for sending that email, I am curious to hear what their response it.

The dealer had mine done today in about 10 mins, the constant steering wheel and seat movement getting into the car was driving me nuts.
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Terrentius,
since it's actually only 07-08 non-nav... your 200 is more like 8.

I love the wheel coming down. so does everyone who has sat in my car. i turned the seat off tho since it's already completely back. no point in just hearing the motor run.
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