Utterly Fed Up with this Car. . .
02-15-2008, 09:35 AM
#1
Utterly Fed Up with this Car. . .
This will be my last time into the dealer before i trade in my Max. I guess this is just to vent, because i am utterly disappointed with this car. Don't be mistaken, i loved nissan, and loved my 5th Gen. But after this 6th Gen Max, i think i am Through.
My invoices of repairs can be stacked inches high, which is way too many times for a 40K mile 2005 SL Max. I change my own oil with Mobil 1, do most of the maintenance myself. I've had a broken Bose CD player, loose driver side rearview mirror . . replaced TWICE, broken AC (which i brought in to get fixed 5 times before their "technician" could find the issue), exhaust issues, bad strut, etc . . . .
Yesterday, i just had the struts replaced, $50 deductible from my extended warranty. And right when i drove it out, the car started shaking like crazy, and the RPM fluctuated consistently between 2-3K, jerking the car back and forth .. . i drive it back to the dealer, and they said that most likely my car was low on gas (which it was) and dirt was caught in the fuel system, causing the cylinders to misfire .. . OK .. . .. so i bring it in again today. . . $130 to flush the fuel system?
Why is it that the dealers (or the one i go to) need the CUSTOMERS to walk them through any issues for them to correctly diagnose any issue? And how come Nissan has degraded this much in build, quality, and service? I am so disappointed in them, and seriously. . if they tell me some BS today or tag me with some crap service charge, thats it . . Im done with Nissan .. .
Hopefully none of this has offended anyone here, but im all out of ideas, and am just way too tired with dealing with this car. .. . Anyone wanna vent or suggest anything?
Nissan Maxima 2005 SL
40K Miles
Dealer: Superior Nissan of Puente Hills.
My invoices of repairs can be stacked inches high, which is way too many times for a 40K mile 2005 SL Max. I change my own oil with Mobil 1, do most of the maintenance myself. I've had a broken Bose CD player, loose driver side rearview mirror . . replaced TWICE, broken AC (which i brought in to get fixed 5 times before their "technician" could find the issue), exhaust issues, bad strut, etc . . . .
Yesterday, i just had the struts replaced, $50 deductible from my extended warranty. And right when i drove it out, the car started shaking like crazy, and the RPM fluctuated consistently between 2-3K, jerking the car back and forth .. . i drive it back to the dealer, and they said that most likely my car was low on gas (which it was) and dirt was caught in the fuel system, causing the cylinders to misfire .. . OK .. . .. so i bring it in again today. . . $130 to flush the fuel system?
Why is it that the dealers (or the one i go to) need the CUSTOMERS to walk them through any issues for them to correctly diagnose any issue? And how come Nissan has degraded this much in build, quality, and service? I am so disappointed in them, and seriously. . if they tell me some BS today or tag me with some crap service charge, thats it . . Im done with Nissan .. .
Hopefully none of this has offended anyone here, but im all out of ideas, and am just way too tired with dealing with this car. .. . Anyone wanna vent or suggest anything?
Nissan Maxima 2005 SL
40K Miles
Dealer: Superior Nissan of Puente Hills.
Last edited by ReficuLiu; 02-15-2008 at 09:42 AM.
02-15-2008, 09:42 AM
#2
its not the car its your dealer,
u didnt need to flush the fuel system just because of that. and im sure most of those invoices were not needed either. but needless to say sorry about your experiences with the car, hope everything works out for you.
u didnt need to flush the fuel system just because of that. and im sure most of those invoices were not needed either. but needless to say sorry about your experiences with the car, hope everything works out for you.
at dealership quality
02-15-2008, 10:46 AM
#6
I used to believe Nissan had a reputation for good car build and quality, but seriously these are not problems that should be seen so often on a $28-32K car. Even if the car is faulty, i can still live with that, but at least Nissan should take responsibility for their lacking quality control. I think i really do have to go to a different dealer, but this one is the closest one to home (and work), and somehow i always manage to have errands to run on the weekends.
I dunno, maybe it has something to do with the assembly of this gen in the United States or something, but for me, newer is Definitely not better. I even contacted headquarters, and complained and they said they couldnt do anything. No reimbursement, no nothing. That is definitely not a way to keep existing customers.
I'm not that familiar with the lemon law, but i have a feeling my car wouldn't apply anyway. I don't hate the car itself, i just hate all this trouble i have to go through. No one else i know, who drives another make of car, ever has to go through this much trouble.
My friend's CLK had spare change stolen from his car on a service trip, and they reimbursed him with a $50 voucher for the gift shop. I bring my car in over 20 times in the past 6 months, they wont even gas up a gallon for all the trips i make. . .
I dunno, maybe it has something to do with the assembly of this gen in the United States or something, but for me, newer is Definitely not better. I even contacted headquarters, and complained and they said they couldnt do anything. No reimbursement, no nothing. That is definitely not a way to keep existing customers.
I'm not that familiar with the lemon law, but i have a feeling my car wouldn't apply anyway. I don't hate the car itself, i just hate all this trouble i have to go through. No one else i know, who drives another make of car, ever has to go through this much trouble.
My friend's CLK had spare change stolen from his car on a service trip, and they reimbursed him with a $50 voucher for the gift shop. I bring my car in over 20 times in the past 6 months, they wont even gas up a gallon for all the trips i make. . .
02-15-2008, 11:24 AM
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02-15-2008, 11:30 AM
#9
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I think that overall Nissan build has been going down over the years. They seem to be more focused on mass production of numbers instead of the used to be rock solid car building. However, that being said I think you have a crappy dealer. I like the idea of driving it through the dealership.
I am proud of my car for running 73K with not a single problem, but when stuff like this happens it's just disappointing.
02-15-2008, 11:34 AM
#11
Does anyone have a recommended dealer that i should try out?
I live in SoCal, Los Angeles County. .
I know another dealer would probably save some issues, but i dunno if i wanna spend more time, gas, money, research looking around for decent service reps and techs.
If anyone knows of a good location, i'll definitely try them next time.
And at the rate i bring my car in, im sure it wont be too long.
I live in SoCal, Los Angeles County. .
I know another dealer would probably save some issues, but i dunno if i wanna spend more time, gas, money, research looking around for decent service reps and techs.
If anyone knows of a good location, i'll definitely try them next time.
And at the rate i bring my car in, im sure it wont be too long.
02-15-2008, 11:46 AM
#12
02-15-2008, 11:50 AM
#13
ok thanks.
On another note, do you know what could have been the problem with my car?
The shaking, the erratic RPM? Is this really crap stuck in the fuel system? Also, the service engine light did flash a few times, but didn't stay on. I was thinking maybe just drive it around for a few days. . .and maybe that problem would just go away. The car still shakes on stops and acceleration, maybe 10% of the time . .. i doubt id be able to replicate the problem on a test drive. . .
On another note, do you know what could have been the problem with my car?
The shaking, the erratic RPM? Is this really crap stuck in the fuel system? Also, the service engine light did flash a few times, but didn't stay on. I was thinking maybe just drive it around for a few days. . .and maybe that problem would just go away. The car still shakes on stops and acceleration, maybe 10% of the time . .. i doubt id be able to replicate the problem on a test drive. . .
02-15-2008, 11:54 AM
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02-15-2008, 11:55 AM
#15
I've heard a lot of good things about West Covina but never tried it personally. Maybe you should give them a try. I've only gone to El Monte for oil change because they were cheap + free car wash. But they up the price after every visit, so I dont bother with them anymore.
BTW, which dealership do you go to?
BTW, which dealership do you go to?
02-15-2008, 12:10 PM
#17
I go to Puente Hills Superior Nissan, in City of Industry.
They said there was multiple cylinder misfire, but the thing i worry about is, despite my gas being refilled, the car just feels weird. . shakes from time to time.
Im guessing there wont be a code read unless the SES flashes again . . .. ?
Meaning, the dealers will half-@ss their inspection again, and say i messed it up by driving on low fuel .. . .. .
They said there was multiple cylinder misfire, but the thing i worry about is, despite my gas being refilled, the car just feels weird. . shakes from time to time.
Im guessing there wont be a code read unless the SES flashes again . . .. ?
Meaning, the dealers will half-@ss their inspection again, and say i messed it up by driving on low fuel .. . .. .
02-15-2008, 12:14 PM
#18
yea and at 40k miles, unless youve put coffee in your gas tank, there shouldnt be even close to enough sediment/deposits for it to clog anything.
saying the car was shaking due to dirty fuel is a lie. if you are running on a dirty line or with a bad filter, the car would bog not shake.
saying the car was shaking due to dirty fuel is a lie. if you are running on a dirty line or with a bad filter, the car would bog not shake.
02-15-2008, 12:42 PM
#19
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At 70k miles the problems I've had with my car have mostly been mod related when I think about it.
The car itself runs nice and strong; AC works great, transmission still shifts well, no electrical problems despite my aftermarket stereo system.
The only problem I ever had was a bad strut and that was replaced for free.
The only problems I really have are related to my headers and SAFC.
The car itself runs nice and strong; AC works great, transmission still shifts well, no electrical problems despite my aftermarket stereo system.
The only problem I ever had was a bad strut and that was replaced for free.
The only problems I really have are related to my headers and SAFC.
02-15-2008, 01:15 PM
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54k on mine, has never been to the dealer. has to be a dealer/tech issue. some techs simply dont know what they are doing. work on one thing and end up messing up something else. and the 6th generation doesnt suck!!
02-15-2008, 01:49 PM
#27
I go to Puente Hills Superior Nissan, in City of Industry.
They said there was multiple cylinder misfire, but the thing i worry about is, despite my gas being refilled, the car just feels weird. . shakes from time to time.
Im guessing there wont be a code read unless the SES flashes again . . .. ?
Meaning, the dealers will half-@ss their inspection again, and say i messed it up by driving on low fuel .. . .. .
They said there was multiple cylinder misfire, but the thing i worry about is, despite my gas being refilled, the car just feels weird. . shakes from time to time.
Im guessing there wont be a code read unless the SES flashes again . . .. ?
Meaning, the dealers will half-@ss their inspection again, and say i messed it up by driving on low fuel .. . .. .
Try Performance Nissan in Duarte, up the 605 and west on the 210. I have dealt with them for aftermarket items and I like them
02-15-2008, 01:50 PM
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Does anyone have a recommended dealer that i should try out?
I live in SoCal, Los Angeles County. .
I know another dealer would probably save some issues, but i dunno if i wanna spend more time, gas, money, research looking around for decent service reps and techs.
If anyone knows of a good location, i'll definitely try them next time.
And at the rate i bring my car in, im sure it wont be too long.
I live in SoCal, Los Angeles County. .
I know another dealer would probably save some issues, but i dunno if i wanna spend more time, gas, money, research looking around for decent service reps and techs.
If anyone knows of a good location, i'll definitely try them next time.
And at the rate i bring my car in, im sure it wont be too long.
Performance Nissan in Duarte
Buena Park Nissan
Metro in Montclair
I don't go to dealers other than warranty works, but I never had any issues w/ Superior. Then again, I only went there twice for minor stuff.
02-15-2008, 02:32 PM
#30
Thanks everyone for all the input.
Just called the dealer, and low and behold . .. they cannot detect anything.
They'll take it out once more to see if they can find any issues, but i really doubt it. . ..
If my Max starts acting up again, i will definitely take it into another dealer .. .
Duarte seems like a decent one, i do recall going there before.
Just called the dealer, and low and behold . .. they cannot detect anything.
They'll take it out once more to see if they can find any issues, but i really doubt it. . ..
If my Max starts acting up again, i will definitely take it into another dealer .. .
Duarte seems like a decent one, i do recall going there before.
02-15-2008, 03:04 PM
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This will be my last time into the dealer before i trade in my Max...
Yesterday, i just had the struts replaced, $50 deductible from my extended warranty. And right when i drove it out, the car started shaking like crazy, and the RPM fluctuated consistently between 2-3K, jerking the car back and forth .. . i drive it back to the dealer, and they said that most likely my car was low on gas (which it was) and dirt was caught in the fuel system, causing the cylinders to misfire .. . OK .. . .. so i bring it in again today. . . $130 to flush the fuel system?
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Yesterday, i just had the struts replaced, $50 deductible from my extended warranty. And right when i drove it out, the car started shaking like crazy, and the RPM fluctuated consistently between 2-3K, jerking the car back and forth .. . i drive it back to the dealer, and they said that most likely my car was low on gas (which it was) and dirt was caught in the fuel system, causing the cylinders to misfire .. . OK .. . .. so i bring it in again today. . . $130 to flush the fuel system?
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02-15-2008, 03:14 PM
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02-15-2008, 03:25 PM
#35
There isnt anything wrong with my tank, just low on gas.
Oh yah, i also purchased the Automate paint protection, and i had it brought in the same time i replaced the struts. According to them, they're supposed to clean the interior carpets, and if they cant clean it, they are supposed to replace them with brand new ones. My spaghetti sauce spill is STILL THERE. . . .looks like they just vacuumed the interior or something, without cleaning. . . i just noticed it this morning. . . and forgot to mention that to them as well. . . .
02-15-2008, 03:38 PM
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I didnt really have time to gas it up the night before, and it was below the quarter tank line. However, the light wasn't even on yet. But i could tell, it was getting real close to lighting up. I have a strong feeling the dealer or mechanic probably used it up testing it or something .. . . but even when i went to pick up my car, the light was off again . .. and didnt turn back on until maybe 1 mile.
There isnt anything wrong with my tank, just low on gas.
Oh yah, i also purchased the Automate paint protection, and i had it brought in the same time i replaced the struts. According to them, they're supposed to clean the interior carpets, and if they cant clean it, they are supposed to replace them with brand new ones. My spaghetti sauce spill is STILL THERE. . . .looks like they just vacuumed the interior or something, without cleaning. . . i just noticed it this morning. . . and forgot to mention that to them as well. . . .
There isnt anything wrong with my tank, just low on gas.
Oh yah, i also purchased the Automate paint protection, and i had it brought in the same time i replaced the struts. According to them, they're supposed to clean the interior carpets, and if they cant clean it, they are supposed to replace them with brand new ones. My spaghetti sauce spill is STILL THERE. . . .looks like they just vacuumed the interior or something, without cleaning. . . i just noticed it this morning. . . and forgot to mention that to them as well. . . .
02-15-2008, 03:50 PM
#37
If your low fuel light was not on when you got the car back from the dealership, then how can your car all of a sudden be damaged due to low fuel? As far as I know, the 6th gen max has a big reserve (almost 4 gals). The dealership is messing up something. Try talking to the mechanic who worked on your car as a friend and figure out all that he did. Then try a different dealership -- that is what I would do.
I was gonna talk to the mechanic, and he was already gone for the day, as was my sales rep.
I completely agree, and it sounds absurd for that to be the reason, but the ppl at the dealer insisted that that was the case. He said how no one drives with the light on, b/c that isn't safe and no one should do it. He also mentioned that i didnt do the 15K mile throttle body and injector cleaning, saying that would also be the cause. Ultimately, he just tried to pin me for the defect.
Funny though, if according to him low gas shouldnt be driven on, then why would his tech guy STILL continue to test drive even after noticing that? The feeling im getting is these guys don't know their stuff, and just try to leech money from the customers.
Last edited by ReficuLiu; 02-15-2008 at 03:52 PM.
02-15-2008, 04:08 PM
#38
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Sorry to hear about your bad experience with your 6thgen man, that really sucks. I Love my 6th gen and personally never had any technical problems. But sometimes people have bad experiences with certain cars but what can ya do. I would also be weary of that dealer man. I dont know how many dealers i went to when i owned my Lincoln LS that broke **** while in the process of fixing something, or trying to sell me **** that i absolutely know i didnt need and when i call their bull**** they try to dance around it and make up some crap reason. Anyways, I Hope your Luck changes man and you dont encounter anymore problems.
Also would like to say Hey to the 6th Gen Community, im new here, have had my 2006 for 2 years now and lately...dont know why...but i got the mod bug and now im spending money on **** i probably dont need but whatever i love cars that go fast and working on them is fun...lol
check out my ride
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Also would like to say Hey to the 6th Gen Community, im new here, have had my 2006 for 2 years now and lately...dont know why...but i got the mod bug and now im spending money on **** i probably dont need but whatever i love cars that go fast and working on them is fun...lol
check out my ride
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3006571
02-15-2008, 05:20 PM
#40
Man....
If its that serious... I would contact Nissan HQ and file a complaint. They normally settle and might work something out for you. It seems that every time you bring the Max in for a fix, you leave with another problem. Or if you have enough proof that the dealership sucks... what about the BBB?
If its that serious... I would contact Nissan HQ and file a complaint. They normally settle and might work something out for you. It seems that every time you bring the Max in for a fix, you leave with another problem. Or if you have enough proof that the dealership sucks... what about the BBB?