Bad transmission? heres what I have noticed
08-09-2008, 10:58 AM
#42
As stated , I do understand why not to in a higher mileage car, but I find it hard to believe that using their machine to truly flush the transmission puts more strain on the internals than driving it under normal load. thats quite some pressure. 12 quarts was replaced on mine as stated on the specs when refilling a tranny 5AT. i believe I was charged for 15 though. Why would Nissan offer this service if its detrimental to the parts?
not trying to sound like a douche but please explain.
not trying to sound like a douche but please explain.I need to visit my dealer and I'll ask, but when I was in their for the 30k service when they said flush the service advisor told me it was a drain refill, WINTER should know better, he has a Maxima and work for Nissan, who better to tell us why which is better
08-09-2008, 12:50 PM
#43
gotcha
08-09-2008, 02:14 PM
#44
As stated , I do understand why not to in a higher mileage car, but I find it hard to believe that using their machine to truly flush the transmission puts more strain on the internals than driving it under normal load. thats quite some pressure. 12 quarts was replaced on mine as stated on the specs when refilling a tranny 5AT. i believe I was charged for 15 though. Why would Nissan offer this service if its detrimental to the parts? not trying to sound like a douche but please explain.
not trying to sound like a douche but please explain.
08-09-2008, 02:17 PM
#45
Thats only what I've been told, as far as I know a flush machine is only suppose to remove old fluid and replace with new, unless the flush machine is not as efficient as one thinks, but someone in that field of expertise would know better and I know just cause on car can get the service does not mean other cars can.
I need to visit my dealer and I'll ask, but when I was in their for the 30k service when they said flush the service advisor told me it was a drain refill, WINTER should know better, he has a Maxima and work for Nissan, who better to tell us why which is better
I need to visit my dealer and I'll ask, but when I was in their for the 30k service when they said flush the service advisor told me it was a drain refill, WINTER should know better, he has a Maxima and work for Nissan, who better to tell us why which is better
08-09-2008, 03:06 PM
#46
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Nissan has installed the "snowmobile transmission" in its entire lineup, even the 290hp 09 Maxima didn't get any other option and maybe the Altima will not get either from its new generation or even from its midcycle refresh in 2010 (like what happened to the Maxima in 2007). Not only that, fuel efficient cars, such as the Prius, Civic Hybrid, etc. from other manufacturers are also coming with the "snowmobile transmission". And fuel efficiency is the talk of this millenium. So you seem to be pretty limited with your future car buying options unless you manage to construct a new tranny for your needs with your boatload of experience
By the way, isn't the CVT fluid in the Maxima supposed to be changed after 60k miles/48 months?
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08-09-2008, 06:14 PM
#47
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Good info chris...
Mine is a 2004 Maxima SL (4 Speed) With almost the same probleme (gianic1)
SLIP BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND FROM TIME TO TIME AND NO DOWN SHIFT (KICK DOWN) AFTER 40km
THANKS CHRIS
Mine is a 2004 Maxima SL (4 Speed) With almost the same probleme (gianic1)
SLIP BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND FROM TIME TO TIME AND NO DOWN SHIFT (KICK DOWN) AFTER 40km
THANKS CHRIS
08-09-2008, 07:28 PM
#48
So what are your future car buying plans?
Nissan has installed the "snowmobile transmission" in its entire lineup, even the 290hp 09 Maxima didn't get any other option and maybe the Altima will not get either from its new generation or even from its midcycle refresh in 2010 (like what happened to the Maxima in 2007). Not only that, fuel efficient cars, such as the Prius, Civic Hybrid, etc. from other manufacturers are also coming with the "snowmobile transmission". And fuel efficiency is the talk of this millenium. So you seem to be pretty limited with your future car buying options unless you manage to construct a new tranny for your needs with your boatload of experience
By the way, isn't the CVT fluid in the Maxima supposed to be changed after 60k miles/48 months?
Nissan has installed the "snowmobile transmission" in its entire lineup, even the 290hp 09 Maxima didn't get any other option and maybe the Altima will not get either from its new generation or even from its midcycle refresh in 2010 (like what happened to the Maxima in 2007). Not only that, fuel efficient cars, such as the Prius, Civic Hybrid, etc. from other manufacturers are also coming with the "snowmobile transmission". And fuel efficiency is the talk of this millenium. So you seem to be pretty limited with your future car buying options unless you manage to construct a new tranny for your needs with your boatload of experience
By the way, isn't the CVT fluid in the Maxima supposed to be changed after 60k miles/48 months?
The CVT fluid is actually not on a maintainable schedule BUT... The Nissan consult III tool can actually check the deterioration level of the fluid as a particle per million count to let you know when it needs to be changed. I would keep it on a normal change schedule none the less. Good news is I have only had to replace 1 of those in an Enterprise rental car. That was a suspect repair as the car had been previously hit....So in the Maxima and smaller platforms I believe its a very reliable transmission.
Putting power to the CVT I feel sketchy though its the hole belt, variable pulley(s) and intense high transmission pressure thing I guess. I have not had alot of luck with that trans in the Murano especially in the AWD models.
Yes, it may be the way of the future for vehicles for fuel consumption concern. Maybe someone will step up to the plate and make it handle some power, and take that concern away from us old gear heads.... Anyone have a jet kit laying around for this quadrajet I have here????
08-09-2008, 09:32 PM
#49
so if im experiencing the same issues as gianic1 i should reprogram my TCM? or have my crank sensor checked? i'm just a lil edgy about taking it back to the dealer, when i originally took it in for this issue they told me it was the valve body was bad and changed it but still its not fixed, i would like to just have the tranny fixed without paying anything..... also they told me they couldn't even advance my timing
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08-09-2008, 09:54 PM
#50
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Funny thing I came across this thread. Here are my current issues. Dealership told me about 6 months ago I need a front motor mount. Discovered just last week my inner passenger side CV boot is busted, grease all over the lower control arm and wheel well. I'm hoping I can save the axle with a CV Boot replacement.
08-10-2008, 05:28 AM
#51
so if im experiencing the same issues as gianic1 i should reprogram my TCM? or have my crank sensor checked? i'm just a lil edgy about taking it back to the dealer, when i originally took it in for this issue they told me it was the valve body was bad and changed it but still its not fixed, i would like to just have the tranny fixed without paying anything..... also they told me they couldn't even advance my timing....
....I want everyone to know as well. SMOOZE your service advisor! Become friendly with them, bring them lunch. bring them a cup of starbucks... slap them a $20 after the service. Bring them a 6 pack of good beer... I am SO serious, you get that person in the palm of your hand and things will happen.. PROMISE!
Funny thing I came across this thread. Here are my current issues. Dealership told me about 6 months ago I need a front motor mount. Discovered just last week my inner passenger side CV boot is busted, grease all over the lower control arm and wheel well. I'm hoping I can save the axle with a CV Boot replacement.
08-10-2008, 06:46 AM
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Funny thing I came across this thread. Here are my current issues. Dealership told me about 6 months ago I need a front motor mount. Discovered just last week my inner passenger side CV boot is busted, grease all over the lower control arm and wheel well. I'm hoping I can save the axle with a CV Boot replacement.
......I am really hoping you took care of that motor mount. When the motor mount is bad it puts alot of stress on the drive train with the motor twisting in the engine bay. It will wear the other motor mount, put added stress on the drive train etc. However I do not think that is what tore your CV boot. Goodluck!
I'm going to get my motor mounts checked ASAP. Question: if the MM happens to be bad, I will have them replace it it but what other mods or things could we be looking to take care of while he is changing the MM?
I also had my passanger CV boot tear, yea grease all over my chrome. My tech ordered the whole axle (not OEM) for like about $20 over what the boot itself costs but it didn't fit because it was for a 6spd. The axle for the 5sp Auto is NOT CHEAP, so back to the boot replacement.
08-10-2008, 07:48 AM
#53
I'm going to get my motor mounts checked ASAP. Question: if the MM happens to be bad, I will have them replace it it but what other mods or things could we be looking to take care of while he is changing the MM?
I also had my passanger CV boot tear, yea grease all over my chrome. My tech ordered the whole axle (not OEM) for like about $20 over what the boot itself costs but it didn't fit because it was for a 6spd. The axle for the 5sp Auto is NOT CHEAP, so back to the boot replacement.
I also had my passanger CV boot tear, yea grease all over my chrome. My tech ordered the whole axle (not OEM) for like about $20 over what the boot itself costs but it didn't fit because it was for a 6spd. The axle for the 5sp Auto is NOT CHEAP, so back to the boot replacement.
08-10-2008, 10:18 AM
#54
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Yup, the dealer quoted me $572 for a new axle 
ouch! I'm taking mine in Wednesday or Thursday so they can look at it. That front MM is expensive as h#!! too!
ouch! I'm taking mine in Wednesday or Thursday so they can look at it. That front MM is expensive as h#!! too!I'm going to get my motor mounts checked ASAP. Question: if the MM happens to be bad, I will have them replace it it but what other mods or things could we be looking to take care of while he is changing the MM?
I also had my passanger CV boot tear, yea grease all over my chrome. My tech ordered the whole axle (not OEM) for like about $20 over what the boot itself costs but it didn't fit because it was for a 6spd. The axle for the 5sp Auto is NOT CHEAP, so back to the boot replacement.
I also had my passanger CV boot tear, yea grease all over my chrome. My tech ordered the whole axle (not OEM) for like about $20 over what the boot itself costs but it didn't fit because it was for a 6spd. The axle for the 5sp Auto is NOT CHEAP, so back to the boot replacement.
08-10-2008, 05:18 PM
#56
What I noitced with my 04 5speed auto is its always in 5th gear even around 35mph. When I brake to a complete stop the transmission waits a few seconds after sitting still to drop into 1st gear. So the vehicle is braking to 0mph while in 2nd gear. That can't be normal?
08-10-2008, 05:26 PM
#57
Chris I guess my PMs didnt go thru, Could you possiable check if the 06 Tranny and 04 are indeed the same tranny ? I talk to Chern and he said his tranny guy siad that the 06 have differnt part #s internally than the 04.
Im scrapping the 6MT cause a memeber here hasnt gotten back to me on his tranny. I cant stand driving without 3rd gear, I found a 06 5AT for a very good price but just wanted to make sure everything is the same since you have access to the info.
Thanks
Im scrapping the 6MT cause a memeber here hasnt gotten back to me on his tranny. I cant stand driving without 3rd gear, I found a 06 5AT for a very good price but just wanted to make sure everything is the same since you have access to the info.
Thanks
08-10-2008, 06:08 PM
#58
What I noitced with my 04 5speed auto is its always in 5th gear even around 35mph. When I brake to a complete stop the transmission waits a few seconds after sitting still to drop into 1st gear. So the vehicle is braking to 0mph while in 2nd gear. That can't be normal?
Chris I guess my PMs didnt go thru, Could you possiable check if the 06 Tranny and 04 are indeed the same tranny ? I talk to Chern and he said his tranny guy siad that the 06 have differnt part #s internally than the 04.
Im scrapping the 6MT cause a memeber here hasnt gotten back to me on his tranny. I cant stand driving without 3rd gear, I found a 06 5AT for a very good price but just wanted to make sure everything is the same since you have access to the info.
Thanks
Im scrapping the 6MT cause a memeber here hasnt gotten back to me on his tranny. I cant stand driving without 3rd gear, I found a 06 5AT for a very good price but just wanted to make sure everything is the same since you have access to the info.
Thanks
08-10-2008, 07:31 PM
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Wow, I never new till after reading this thread and doing some research through my tranny parts supplier, that not only did the '04 auto sl's come with the 4-speed a/t, but they actually used the RE4F04A instead of the ones used on 5.5 gens (RE4F04B), that's weaksauce. I am anxious to see what's in our '04 I35, I don't think I've ever looked at the tag, it has the 1-2 hang-up than bang and slips when cold, I've had to go down to 20k or less intervals!! The problems seem to creap up between 15-20k and changing the fluid helps for another 15-20k.
Anyways, just to clarify. It's doing it on the lift that is the reason you guys are seeing 4qts'ish, and to the guy that mentioned jacking up the front getting less, it's the other way around, the higher you can get the front the more you will get out, I get it real real high using extra blocks under the jack and get out 6.5 with the tailpipe on the ground, this is on other RE4F04x trannied/
Anyways, just to clarify. It's doing it on the lift that is the reason you guys are seeing 4qts'ish, and to the guy that mentioned jacking up the front getting less, it's the other way around, the higher you can get the front the more you will get out, I get it real real high using extra blocks under the jack and get out 6.5 with the tailpipe on the ground, this is on other RE4F04x trannied/
08-10-2008, 08:46 PM
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my max has 40K miles and was never flushed. When I bought it at the dealer, they said that they had checked the tranny oil and it "was fine and didnt need to be changed".
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I'm under extended warranty. Should I just 1-not think about it, 2-pay them to change it, 3- change it myself?
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I'm under extended warranty. Should I just 1-not think about it, 2-pay them to change it, 3- change it myself?
08-11-2008, 06:11 AM
#62
my max has 40K miles and was never flushed. When I bought it at the dealer, they said that they had checked the tranny oil and it "was fine and didnt need to be changed".
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I'm under extended warranty. Should I just 1-not think about it, 2-pay them to change it, 3- change it myself?
?
I'm under extended warranty. Should I just 1-not think about it, 2-pay them to change it, 3- change it myself?
08-11-2008, 08:05 AM
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08-11-2008, 08:45 AM
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08-11-2008, 09:00 AM
#67
Just called my dealer and scheduled an appointment for thursday. First thing i asked they tech "how many transmissions have you guys replaced in the maxima?" he hesitates and says "none." Last month they replaced the valve body to fix my 1-2 slip issue I told him it still slips intermittently. he said well bring it in and we will call nissan and see what they want to do.
Currently have 60,500 Miles w/ exetended warranty. I'll keep u guys updated hopefully they just replace it and save me the headache.
Currently have 60,500 Miles w/ exetended warranty. I'll keep u guys updated hopefully they just replace it and save me the headache.
08-11-2008, 09:18 AM
#68
Just called my dealer and scheduled an appointment for thursday. First thing i asked they tech "how many transmissions have you guys replaced in the maxima?" he hesitates and says "none." Last month they replaced the valve body to fix my 1-2 slip issue I told him it still slips intermittently. he said well bring it in and we will call nissan and see what they want to do.
Currently have 60,500 Miles w/ exetended warranty. I'll keep u guys updated hopefully they just replace it and save me the headache.
Currently have 60,500 Miles w/ exetended warranty. I'll keep u guys updated hopefully they just replace it and save me the headache.
08-19-2008, 05:43 AM
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Hey WINTERFAUST, I have a 2004 SE 5sp AT... I have noticed that when the car is cold it shifts hard from 1-2 gear.. after warming up.. it's less noticable or gone completely.. took it to nissan, they have suggested a TCM REPROGRAMMING as there was information regarding cold shifting requiring this reprogramming. Have you heard of this or am i going to be comming back later with transmission problems.
08-20-2008, 11:53 AM
#71
I had my car in for serviced for the 30k and will bring it back for the 60k, I actually need to stop by the dealer and slip my service advisor a 20 to say thanks for all the work, show my face etc...
08-20-2008, 12:18 PM
#72
Hey WINTERFAUST, I have a 2004 SE 5sp AT... I have noticed that when the car is cold it shifts hard from 1-2 gear.. after warming up.. it's less noticable or gone completely.. took it to nissan, they have suggested a TCM REPROGRAMMING as there was information regarding cold shifting requiring this reprogramming. Have you heard of this or am i going to be comming back later with transmission problems.
08-20-2008, 01:17 PM
#73
Hey WINTERFAUST, I have a 2004 SE 5sp AT... I have noticed that when the car is cold it shifts hard from 1-2 gear.. after warming up.. it's less noticable or gone completely.. took it to nissan, they have suggested a TCM REPROGRAMMING as there was information regarding cold shifting requiring this reprogramming. Have you heard of this or am i going to be comming back later with transmission problems.
Back to the Maxima
mine had a hard felt shift between either 1-2/2-1 or 2-3/3-2 I don't really know, but I could replicate it daily at exact points on my drive, after putting the Active Tuning Grounding Kit on my car it made the shift so much smoother that I don't notice it anymore
09-10-2008, 07:45 AM
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My 2005 Maxima is at the Gaithersburg Nissan right now for an oil change and the tech recommended changing the transmission fluid because it was dirty. The quote was around $120.
My car has just over 30 K miles. Is this something the dealer should do or is it easy enough that I can do it myself?
My car has just over 30 K miles. Is this something the dealer should do or is it easy enough that I can do it myself?
09-11-2008, 04:18 AM
#77
LOL Gaithersburg Nissan... you mean Criswell Nissan?
Thats where I just left. Company is **** to be employed for but the techs are top notch. Also if you have Pai as an advisor he less than nice to his customers. $120 is a drain and refill on that car there... NOT a flush do not be confused....
Thats where I just left. Company is **** to be employed for but the techs are top notch. Also if you have Pai as an advisor he less than nice to his customers. $120 is a drain and refill on that car there... NOT a flush do not be confused....
09-11-2008, 05:53 AM
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