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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 01:37 AM
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Single exhaust??

I have batted this idea around for a bit. I used Paint to eliminate the left side exhaust and I darkened the Magnaflow muffler. If I did this project, I would maintain the ID of the exhaust all the way to the rear. I would also likely have an oval tip and raise it slightly so its tucked closer to the bumper. The problem then is handling the left opening. I have seen 350Zs with a brake light covering the opening (JDM style). I could also use some spare Street Scene mesh. I could also cover it with plastic and rivet it for a purposeful look.

Old Oct 22, 2008 | 04:46 AM
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DEUS HAS ALWAYS SOMETHING IN HIS MIND.
Old Oct 22, 2008 | 06:32 AM
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I've seen people upgrade from a single exhaust to a dual exhaust, but why would you want to do the reverse?
Old Oct 22, 2008 | 06:39 AM
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why does 350z ppl convert to single exhaust? does it help them make more power or they just want to be different? if you are going to be single exhaust get a big muffler so it looks good..do not get dual tip.
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 06:49 AM
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It's not a true dual exhaust, why not remove the muffler and seal the end
Old Oct 22, 2008 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Veniality
DEUS HAS ALWAYS SOMETHING IN HIS MIND.

WAT?


DEUS, WHY?
Old Oct 22, 2008 | 07:48 AM
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 08:17 AM
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close one of your nostrils and see if you can breath better. Doesnt seem logical if you want to open up your exhaust more.
Old Oct 22, 2008 | 08:40 AM
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If you're going 3", single is probably better for flow. Too bad the spare tire well is in the way for a more straight piping. I think 2 1/2 is enough though.

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Originally Posted by dineth00i30
why does 350z ppl convert to single exhaust? does it help them make more power or they just want to be different? if you are going to be single exhaust get a big muffler so it looks good..do not get dual tip.
Mostly for f/i purposes IIRC.
Old Oct 22, 2008 | 09:26 AM
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i usually like ur ideas dues. but ...no .. only time id consider this is if it was in the middle.. dual looks so much better
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oh hell no...
Old Oct 22, 2008 | 11:27 AM
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I personally think the original duals looks much more aggressive from behind...but If you were going to do it, I think a 2.5" piping would be perfect with mandrel bends.

Or you can come up with a design like the IS-F exhaust...I think that would look hott.



or this...

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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 12:05 PM
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I like the centered 350z exhaust option. I saw it in the new stillen catalog. It grabbed my eye. How would a centered exhaust look on your car, Dues?
Old Oct 22, 2008 | 12:36 PM
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about the iis-f exhaust thing that is mostly for the looks. that is not a true quad exhaust setup from what i read in a magazine but i think center exhaust would look much better and this will be another excuse for you to make a new rear diffuser with CARBON-FIBER!!!
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Originally Posted by nalc
I've seen people upgrade from a single exhaust to a dual exhaust, but why would you want to do the reverse?
Originally Posted by dineth00i30
why does 350z ppl convert to single exhaust? does it help them make more power or they just want to be different? if you are going to be single exhaust get a big muffler so it looks good..do not get dual tip.
Guys with 350z's do it because its not a true dual exhaust as is the same with the maxima. Most 350z guys do it and go to a 3" setup because its less restrictive creating more power, the more the exhaust can flow the more power can be created (This is a more ideal setup for F/I but would interesting to see with an NA max). If deus were to do this I would suggest he do a 3" setup and he would reduce the weight of his car as well

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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 12:40 PM
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rough mockup... i think you could make a cool carbon fiber diffuser for each side

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Originally Posted by nalc
rough mockup... i think you could make a cool carbon fiber diffuser for each side

Straight back down the center path would be sweet, but way more work then its worth, which means removal of the wheel well
Old Oct 22, 2008 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by nalc
rough mockup... i think you could make a cool carbon fiber diffuser for each side

thats the way to go
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this looks better....
Old Oct 22, 2008 | 01:26 PM
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wow that looks hot in the center.. g/l with all the work involved in that though lol

personally... ive always loved the dual exh on 6th gens but hey its ur car
Old Oct 22, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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All the ideas are great but not for me... I also love the quad/dual exhaust loook... but dues is more hard core than i am !

Either way im sure it will look clean!

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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 02:47 PM
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I like the center exhaust and really looked into whether or not it could be done. The problem is that the wheel well is directly in the way. If it wasnt for that, I would probably do it. Here was an idea that I liked:
Old Oct 22, 2008 | 03:09 PM
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i know on the 4th gens to do a duel exhaust people have cut out the well and welded in a plate, another option if you want to do the rear centered exhaust
Old Oct 22, 2008 | 03:29 PM
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I think the R32 dual center exhaust is pretty sick too


How low does the wheel well go? It looks like you all have custom rear valences that go lower than normal, would the pipes fit under the well?

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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by nalc
rough mockup... i think you could make a cool carbon fiber diffuser for each side

Dues, that looks really good in my opinion (the dual center). Actually it's waay hot! But the single exhaust thing is very exhausting.

Please, two pairs are better than one pair (unless it's centered)...in the words of Nancy Reagan, "JUST SAY NO"!!!!!
Old Oct 22, 2008 | 03:48 PM
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why not just run custom piping to the axle back??? n have a body shop cover up the left side???.... probebly use the same technique squirell82 did with his grill???... if possible?.... just a thought...
Old Oct 22, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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Car is to big for center exit exhaust I like the idea of single left side or twin side dumps
Old Oct 22, 2008 | 04:16 PM
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you wouldn't have to remove part of the wheel well. all you would have to do is get a different muffler and put it on one side of the spare tire well and run 2 pipes out the back to the bumper exit. or use 2 smaller mufflers and curves the pipes around the spare tire well to the cut out. there is enough room buts that's a lot of bends.

what about stacks with flappers?!?! <====(note sarcasm)
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I kind of agree and disagree with some of the points raised so far. I think from a looks point of view, the symmetry of pipes on each side looks more pleasing. However, single exhaust on a car originally designed for two outputs has a sort of purposeful look to it. I agree that a car that is not dual exhaust hos no need for twin pipes. In fact, a single pipe eliminates the need to speculate as to what size is adequate to split the pipes, and whether o not there is turbulence. There is also a sound factor that comes into play with dual exhaust. If the two mufflers are not synchronized, I understand that the slightly different sound coming from each muffler creates a dissonance that can be unpleasant. Lets not forget that the extra muffler, flanges and pipes create added weight at the end of the car which has an effect on handling.

Keep in mind that if I undertake this project, it would look better than the picture in my first post because the muffler would sit up higher.

Here is a single exhaust for a Z. There are two vid/audio clips if u scroll down
http://www.alteredatmosphere.com/mm5..._Code=350Z_EXH
Old Oct 25, 2008 | 03:57 AM
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dual single tip to the center is the way to go. The 350z guys go single for more low end torque. much more back pressure. loss at the top end though.
Old Oct 25, 2008 | 10:53 PM
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I've always liked the look of the dual exhaust, but single exhaust will be lighter, and its probably cheaper to get one muffler than 2. I believe that's why Z owners do it. honestly our duals are pretty much just for looks too, if its not true dual its not worth it imo.
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Originally Posted by po8pimp
dual single tip to the center is the way to go. The 350z guys go single for more low end torque. much more back pressure. loss at the top end though.
I cant imagine why that would have an effect like that. I would think it would be freer flowing, all things being equal. Also, I think the pipe diameter has a greater effect than whether it splits in the back.
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I think this maybe a time were its just better to leave it alone.
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Originally Posted by po8pimp
dual single tip to the center is the way to go. The 350z guys go single for more low end torque. much more back pressure. loss at the top end though.


what is this back pressure thing that everyone has on their minds these days, lets get off this back pressure bandwagon. Its all a myth that back pressure creates torque and really the onle incentive that this idea works is when you are on stock short runner exhaust manifolds (that was the idea, but really your just making the engine run lean and burning the valves). He now has headers, with a 3-1 collector, the more free flow of the exhaust the better, especially if there is less bends it will be better as well. Why else do you think guys at the track take the cat off the car and just leave the y-pipe, it creates more power, which is why exhaust cutouts are nice.

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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 11:03 PM
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I support Deus' idea this time, I think you should go for it.
Old Oct 25, 2008 | 11:05 PM
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what is this back pressure thing that everyone has on their minds these days. Its all a myth that back pressure creates torque and really the onle incentive that this idea works is when you are on stock short runner exhaust manifolds. He now has headers, with a 3-1 collector, lets all get off this back pressure bandwagon, the more free flow of the exhaust the better. In other works the less bends the better as well. Why else do you think guys at the track take the cat off the car and just leave the y-pipe, it creates more power, which is why exhaust cutouts are nice.
True, I never understood how people got this more back pressure crap. That's why race cars run straight pipes.
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True, I never understood how people got this more back pressure crap. That's why race cars run straight pipes.
exactly.

I say deus should do it, just with 3" cat and catback. Its cheap to make it yourself (piece it together (ebay is wonderful for it) and pay someone to weld it in) but thats up to him.
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I thought about having a 3" exhaust mate up at the rear section. I guess the correct way to do it is to replace the entire catback with 3"



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