Turbo Charger for the max
10-29-2011, 01:32 PM
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Turbo Charger for the max
So i tend to shy away from ebay anything, just becuase they have a rep of selling cheap stuff. but a turbo charger is a turbocharger, Doesn't matter if the piping is made from aluminum or platinum. the only thing i thing in a turbo system that needs to be solid is the actually turbo and oil return system.
here is the ebay listing. http://www.ebay.com/itm/180602512518...witem=&vxp=mtr
I messaged the guy to see if he has sold this kit to other maximas and he said yes, 12 people. He also said they installed it with success and had nothing but positive feedback, literally, i read it myself, there is a spot for buyers to leave feedback.
still i am skeptical, so i thought i'd run it by the max community before committing to buy. Please leave objective comments. This is serious and i won't pay any attention to opinions or ebay bias.
i will be installing this myself and tow it to a shop for adjustments and tuning.
Thanks guys
here is the ebay listing. http://www.ebay.com/itm/180602512518...witem=&vxp=mtr
I messaged the guy to see if he has sold this kit to other maximas and he said yes, 12 people. He also said they installed it with success and had nothing but positive feedback, literally, i read it myself, there is a spot for buyers to leave feedback.
still i am skeptical, so i thought i'd run it by the max community before committing to buy. Please leave objective comments. This is serious and i won't pay any attention to opinions or ebay bias.
i will be installing this myself and tow it to a shop for adjustments and tuning.
Thanks guys
10-29-2011, 02:11 PM
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$800 for a GT45, with 2.25 piping and that intercooler? Yea buy that and say good bye to your motor once that cheap turbo fails. And what about a feedpipe? injectors? engine management? BOV? Wastegate?
So: No. Do not buy and read more about turbos.
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So: No. Do not buy and read more about turbos.
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10-29-2011, 02:21 PM
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First of all, dont take this in an offensive manner, but your previous posts/threads hinted at the fact that you didn't know too much about performance especially when it comes to maximas. This thread confirms that...
If you think you can just buy this "universal" kit, install it at home, and tow it to a shop for them to tune it, you are sadly mistaken. How are you going to build a feedpipe at home? I assume you have a welder and are pretty handy with it? If not? Well skip down to my last point.
A turbo charger is definitely NOT just a turbo charger. There is a reason why good turbos are expensive.
There are a lot more items in a turbo set up that needs to be solid than just the turbo and oil return. That's arguably the most ridiculous claim I've heard about turbos in a while.
An ebay seller will tell you whatever they want just to get a sale. Feedback can also be false on eBay. That's common knowledge.
Bottom line, this kit is an expensive piping/intercooler kit. Chances are, the seals on the turbo will go bad in no time. Even then, the Couplers are probably cheap ones that blow off at the sign of a decent amount of boost.
I can go on and on. But my advise to you is to research more. A lot more. Sure, this "kit" CAN work. But if you have to ask about it, your better off just taking the car to a shop and letting them do 100% of the work from start to finish.
If you think you can just buy this "universal" kit, install it at home, and tow it to a shop for them to tune it, you are sadly mistaken. How are you going to build a feedpipe at home? I assume you have a welder and are pretty handy with it? If not? Well skip down to my last point.
A turbo charger is definitely NOT just a turbo charger. There is a reason why good turbos are expensive.
There are a lot more items in a turbo set up that needs to be solid than just the turbo and oil return. That's arguably the most ridiculous claim I've heard about turbos in a while.
An ebay seller will tell you whatever they want just to get a sale. Feedback can also be false on eBay. That's common knowledge.
Bottom line, this kit is an expensive piping/intercooler kit. Chances are, the seals on the turbo will go bad in no time. Even then, the Couplers are probably cheap ones that blow off at the sign of a decent amount of boost.
I can go on and on. But my advise to you is to research more. A lot more. Sure, this "kit" CAN work. But if you have to ask about it, your better off just taking the car to a shop and letting them do 100% of the work from start to finish.
10-29-2011, 02:21 PM
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Edit yours too since you quoted me 
10-29-2011, 05:35 PM
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10-29-2011, 07:56 PM
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wow, all the outspoken naturally aspirated turbo expert maxima org'ers all in one thread!! what a treat..
its pretty obvious that because the word ebay is involved none of you can think outside assumptions. you don't know the quality of any of these parts, have you actually physically held and inspected one of this turbines or are you talking out your *** because of a few horror stories that rumored their way to your ears. seriously? you just assume because its on ebay and not branded by an originating company its total ****? which one of you who are knocking this have actually had any personal experience? i asked you to be objective. not spout off rumors to which origin you have no clue.
ill stick to asking questions to people i trust, like the performance shops that do this for a living. sorry for wasting your time.... not
i asked nicely to be objective. ignorance is thick in this one, if i can't get any real answers ill just delete this thread.
If any of you have PERSONAL experience with DNA motoring and know these parts are cheap and prone to failure then please speak up, if you don't know anything about this company keep your mouths shut, im not interested in your opinions.
its pretty obvious that because the word ebay is involved none of you can think outside assumptions. you don't know the quality of any of these parts, have you actually physically held and inspected one of this turbines or are you talking out your *** because of a few horror stories that rumored their way to your ears. seriously? you just assume because its on ebay and not branded by an originating company its total ****? which one of you who are knocking this have actually had any personal experience? i asked you to be objective. not spout off rumors to which origin you have no clue.
ill stick to asking questions to people i trust, like the performance shops that do this for a living. sorry for wasting your time.... not
i asked nicely to be objective. ignorance is thick in this one, if i can't get any real answers ill just delete this thread.
If any of you have PERSONAL experience with DNA motoring and know these parts are cheap and prone to failure then please speak up, if you don't know anything about this company keep your mouths shut, im not interested in your opinions.
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10-29-2011, 08:18 PM
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10-29-2011, 08:42 PM
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First of all, dont take this in an offensive manner, but your previous posts/threads hinted at the fact that you didn't know too much about performance especially when it comes to maximas. This thread confirms that...
If you think you can just buy this "universal" kit, install it at home, and tow it to a shop for them to tune it, you are sadly mistaken. How are you going to build a feedpipe at home? I assume you have a welder and are pretty handy with it? If not? Well skip down to my last point.
A turbo charger is definitely NOT just a turbo charger. There is a reason why good turbos are expensive.
There are a lot more items in a turbo set up that needs to be solid than just the turbo and oil return. That's arguably the most ridiculous claim I've heard about turbos in a while.
An ebay seller will tell you whatever they want just to get a sale. Feedback can also be false on eBay. That's common knowledge.
Bottom line, this kit is an expensive piping/intercooler kit. Chances are, the seals on the turbo will go bad in no time. Even then, the Couplers are probably cheap ones that blow off at the sign of a decent amount of boost.
I can go on and on. But my advise to you is to research more. A lot more. Sure, this "kit" CAN work. But if you have to ask about it, your better off just taking the car to a shop and letting them do 100% of the work from start to finish.
If you think you can just buy this "universal" kit, install it at home, and tow it to a shop for them to tune it, you are sadly mistaken. How are you going to build a feedpipe at home? I assume you have a welder and are pretty handy with it? If not? Well skip down to my last point.
A turbo charger is definitely NOT just a turbo charger. There is a reason why good turbos are expensive.
There are a lot more items in a turbo set up that needs to be solid than just the turbo and oil return. That's arguably the most ridiculous claim I've heard about turbos in a while.
An ebay seller will tell you whatever they want just to get a sale. Feedback can also be false on eBay. That's common knowledge.
Bottom line, this kit is an expensive piping/intercooler kit. Chances are, the seals on the turbo will go bad in no time. Even then, the Couplers are probably cheap ones that blow off at the sign of a decent amount of boost.
I can go on and on. But my advise to you is to research more. A lot more. Sure, this "kit" CAN work. But if you have to ask about it, your better off just taking the car to a shop and letting them do 100% of the work from start to finish.
then come along the companies that copy them or reverse engineer these products and don't need to sell them at the cost it takes to cover all the expenses necessary for design. just because they are sold cheaper doesn't mean they use cheap quality material.
I do know for a fact that ebay has banned fraudulent performance part companies from selling their crap on their web site. this was back when online parts companies got big, probably where some of you have heard these stories. DNA motoring has been around for a long time and of the 26+ thousand feed back replies NON of them have consisted of parts going bad. DNA motoring is not some Chinese online company. they are based in Southern California and have been in business selling forced induction kits and other performance parts for over 30 years.
way too many haters on this web site... SMH
Last edited by twentyeggs; 10-29-2011 at 08:53 PM.
10-29-2011, 08:58 PM
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Doing a turbo on a 6thgen is just not worth it.At the end of the day it's a family sedan and investing all that money to eventually blow up something just isn't worth it.Buy a small car and turbo it.Beside the engine and tranny on these cars are mad expensive.Ask chern
10-29-2011, 09:14 PM
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Doing a turbo on a 6thgen is just not worth it.At the end of the day it's a family sedan and investing all that money to eventually blow up something just isn't worth it.Buy a small car and turbo it.Beside the engine and tranny on these cars are mad expensive.Ask chern
I have been planning to get my tranny redone by level 10 irregardless of if i get F/I.
i have the 5AT its going to go kaput one day if i don't do anything about it.
also if i do get the turbo and blow up my car... it will be upsetting, but not the end of the world, ill just buy a new car, a g35x, what i should have bought in the first place.. just saying...
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10-29-2011, 09:41 PM
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I thought about doing it myself but when I think about spending 10-15k to got 12's and 13's is just not worth it.There's civic's out there doing 10's or less,except you can buy a civic for $700 and make it a project.I want my car to go faster but i'm not gonna invest that much on it.I'll stick with the bolt on mods and use that money for something more productive
10-29-2011, 11:21 PM
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wow, all the outspoken naturally aspirated turbo expert maxima org'ers all in one thread!! what a treat..
its pretty obvious that because the word ebay is involved none of you can think outside assumptions. you don't know the quality of any of these parts, have you actually physically held and inspected one of this turbines or are you talking out your *** because of a few horror stories that rumored their way to your ears. seriously? you just assume because its on ebay and not branded by an originating company its total ****? which one of you who are knocking this have actually had any personal experience? i asked you to be objective. not spout off rumors to which origin you have no clue.
ill stick to asking questions to people i trust, like the performance shops that do this for a living. sorry for wasting your time.... not
i asked nicely to be objective. ignorance is thick in this one, if i can't get any real answers ill just delete this thread.
If any of you have PERSONAL experience with DNA motoring and know these parts are cheap and prone to failure then please speak up, if you don't know anything about this company keep your mouths shut, im not interested in your opinions.
its pretty obvious that because the word ebay is involved none of you can think outside assumptions. you don't know the quality of any of these parts, have you actually physically held and inspected one of this turbines or are you talking out your *** because of a few horror stories that rumored their way to your ears. seriously? you just assume because its on ebay and not branded by an originating company its total ****? which one of you who are knocking this have actually had any personal experience? i asked you to be objective. not spout off rumors to which origin you have no clue.
ill stick to asking questions to people i trust, like the performance shops that do this for a living. sorry for wasting your time.... not
i asked nicely to be objective. ignorance is thick in this one, if i can't get any real answers ill just delete this thread.
If any of you have PERSONAL experience with DNA motoring and know these parts are cheap and prone to failure then please speak up, if you don't know anything about this company keep your mouths shut, im not interested in your opinions.
If you have found this to be a reputable company that produces quality turbos go ahead and purchase but that brings up what your motive was when creating this thread?
the reason why "good turbos" are so expensive are because the companies that design them put in 1000's of hours into its productions.
then come along the companies that copy them or reverse engineer these products and don't need to sell them at the cost it takes to cover all the expenses necessary for design. just because they are sold cheaper doesn't mean they use cheap quality material.
I do know for a fact that ebay has banned fraudulent performance part companies from selling their crap on their web site. this was back when online parts companies got big, probably where some of you have heard these stories. DNA motoring has been around for a long time and of the 26+ thousand feed back replies NON of them have consisted of parts going bad. DNA motoring is not some Chinese online company. they are based in Southern California and have been in business selling forced induction kits and other performance parts for over 30 years.
way too many haters on this web site... SMH
then come along the companies that copy them or reverse engineer these products and don't need to sell them at the cost it takes to cover all the expenses necessary for design. just because they are sold cheaper doesn't mean they use cheap quality material.
I do know for a fact that ebay has banned fraudulent performance part companies from selling their crap on their web site. this was back when online parts companies got big, probably where some of you have heard these stories. DNA motoring has been around for a long time and of the 26+ thousand feed back replies NON of them have consisted of parts going bad. DNA motoring is not some Chinese online company. they are based in Southern California and have been in business selling forced induction kits and other performance parts for over 30 years.
way too many haters on this web site... SMH
I question what the motive was behind this thread?So members are haters because they are telling you not to put a turbo that may destroy your engine on your car? You asked for the opinion of members on this site regarding this turbo and they gave you their opinion and now they are haters
I really don't understand your process of thinking here. BTW if you really have to ask these questions and make these type of threads DONT TURBO YOUR CAR until you read and educate yourself more on the subject. This is not a simple task to do or fully understand, if you knew this it would be obvious that the kit is not even sufficient to turbo your vehicle or is it even worth it. Basically all your getting is pipe that may or may not be useable on your ride. Educate yourself man instead of being a douchebag and lashing out, it should tell you something is not right when people give you responses like this.
Doing a turbo on a 6thgen is just not worth it.At the end of the day it's a family sedan and investing all that money to eventually blow up something just isn't worth it.Buy a small car and turbo it.Beside the engine and tranny on these cars are mad expensive.Ask chern
I thought about doing it myself but when I think about spending 10-15k to got 12's and 13's is just not worth it.There's civic's out there doing 10's or less,except you can buy a civic for $700 and make it a project.I want my car to go faster but i'm not gonna invest that much on it.I'll stick with the bolt on mods and use that money for something more productive
Many people have turned their 6th gens into project cars. A project car doesn't mean its small, costs little to nothing, and has to be a honda
10-30-2011, 07:33 AM
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the reason why "good turbos" are so expensive are because the companies that design them put in 1000's of hours into its productions.
then come along the companies that copy them or reverse engineer these products and don't need to sell them at the cost it takes to cover all the expenses necessary for design. just because they are sold cheaper doesn't mean they use cheap quality material.
I do know for a fact that ebay has banned fraudulent performance part companies from selling their crap on their web site. this was back when online parts companies got big, probably where some of you have heard these stories. DNA motoring has been around for a long time and of the 26+ thousand feed back replies NON of them have consisted of parts going bad. DNA motoring is not some Chinese online company. they are based in Southern California and have been in business selling forced induction kits and other performance parts for over 30 years.
way too many haters on this web site... SMH
then come along the companies that copy them or reverse engineer these products and don't need to sell them at the cost it takes to cover all the expenses necessary for design. just because they are sold cheaper doesn't mean they use cheap quality material.
I do know for a fact that ebay has banned fraudulent performance part companies from selling their crap on their web site. this was back when online parts companies got big, probably where some of you have heard these stories. DNA motoring has been around for a long time and of the 26+ thousand feed back replies NON of them have consisted of parts going bad. DNA motoring is not some Chinese online company. they are based in Southern California and have been in business selling forced induction kits and other performance parts for over 30 years.
way too many haters on this web site... SMH
This kit that "DNA" sells is not made by DNA by the way. It in fact is made by some 3rd party company. It's the same crap you see all over ebay. And you asked for advice from someone with experience with this. Well here I am.
Actually, forget it. You seen like you don't want help from more knowledgeable people. I tried guys. Back to azz hole mode.
10-30-2011, 08:50 AM
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^ Essentials probably the most knowledgeable cat that replied in your thread.
Ill leave you with two things.
Ask for the compressor map for the car/application that you are looking to install this kit on. It will go a long way in matching the proper turbo to your motor, to ensure you dont hit boost at 4500rpm through 6k.
After that do a google search, and realize that these guys dont exist outside of the world of ebay. its one thiing if they use a garrett turbo or a proven turbo and sell the piping to you. id just be wary. Other than that good luck.
Ill leave you with two things.
Ask for the compressor map for the car/application that you are looking to install this kit on. It will go a long way in matching the proper turbo to your motor, to ensure you dont hit boost at 4500rpm through 6k.
After that do a google search, and realize that these guys dont exist outside of the world of ebay. its one thiing if they use a garrett turbo or a proven turbo and sell the piping to you. id just be wary. Other than that good luck.
10-30-2011, 09:01 AM
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You may have got some wild response but what did you expect. Unless a turbo is reputable you don't want to put it on your car it has nothing to do with ebay, simple as that.
If you have found this to be a reputable company that produces quality turbos go ahead and purchase but that brings up what your motive was when creating this thread?
Seems like you had your mind made up already I question what the motive was behind this thread?
So members are haters because they are telling you not to put a turbo that may destroy your engine on your car? You asked for the opinion of members on this site regarding this turbo and they gave you their opinion and now they are haters
I really don't understand your process of thinking here. BTW if you really have to ask these questions and make these type of threads DONT TURBO YOUR CAR until you read and educate yourself more on the subject. This is not a simple task to do or fully understand, if you knew this it would be obvious that the kit is not even sufficient to turbo your vehicle or is it even worth it. Basically all your getting is pipe that may or may not be useable on your ride. Educate yourself man instead of being a douchebag and lashing out, it should tell you something is not right when people give you responses like this.
This guy is an idiot.
Like I said this guys an idiot. Are you serious? The car may be a "family sedan" to you but its a sports car with an awesome engine thats proved to be superior to others in its class time and time again. A max is not as much of a family sedan as you think its not an accord/camry/avalon etc. Its a sports car plain and simple. it may not be the ideal sports car that comes to mind and may not be the best platform but turboing it over turboing a camry/avalon/accord/impala etc or any car in its class is much more logical than you think.
Many people have turned their 6th gens into project cars. A project car doesn't mean its small, costs little to nothing, and has to be a honda
If you have found this to be a reputable company that produces quality turbos go ahead and purchase but that brings up what your motive was when creating this thread?
Seems like you had your mind made up already
I question what the motive was behind this thread?So members are haters because they are telling you not to put a turbo that may destroy your engine on your car? You asked for the opinion of members on this site regarding this turbo and they gave you their opinion and now they are haters
I really don't understand your process of thinking here. BTW if you really have to ask these questions and make these type of threads DONT TURBO YOUR CAR until you read and educate yourself more on the subject. This is not a simple task to do or fully understand, if you knew this it would be obvious that the kit is not even sufficient to turbo your vehicle or is it even worth it. Basically all your getting is pipe that may or may not be useable on your ride. Educate yourself man instead of being a douchebag and lashing out, it should tell you something is not right when people give you responses like this.
This guy is an idiot.
Like I said this guys an idiot. Are you serious? The car may be a "family sedan" to you but its a sports car with an awesome engine thats proved to be superior to others in its class time and time again. A max is not as much of a family sedan as you think its not an accord/camry/avalon etc. Its a sports car plain and simple. it may not be the ideal sports car that comes to mind and may not be the best platform but turboing it over turboing a camry/avalon/accord/impala etc or any car in its class is much more logical than you think.
Many people have turned their 6th gens into project cars. A project car doesn't mean its small, costs little to nothing, and has to be a honda
my mini-rant was geared toward those who don't now anything about my kit but wanted to knock on it anyways.
i appreciate your time man.
if you were to use a well known turbine what would you swap in its place?
i am still very open to swapping out the turbo for something i know is proven and wont implode... this wouldn't set me back that much more for piece of mind.
and no **** its a family sedan, which make it all the more fun when you rape a v8 sports car and watch the head down in shame look as he passes you at the next light.
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10-30-2011, 09:08 AM
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i installed an 8k dollar twin turbo kit that needed heavy metal fab on a 2002 corvette, im pretty sure doing one on the max will be a sinch..
10-30-2011, 09:12 AM
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Further prooves my very first point....
This kit that "DNA" sells is not made by DNA by the way. It in fact is made by some 3rd party company. It's the same crap you see all over ebay. And you asked for advice from someone with experience with this. Well here I am.
Actually, forget it. You seen like you don't want help from more knowledgeable people. I tried guys. Back to azz hole mode.
This kit that "DNA" sells is not made by DNA by the way. It in fact is made by some 3rd party company. It's the same crap you see all over ebay. And you asked for advice from someone with experience with this. Well here I am.
Actually, forget it. You seen like you don't want help from more knowledgeable people. I tried guys. Back to azz hole mode.
what else? what else in this kit are you guys thinking will blow a crater in the road? is that all?
10-30-2011, 09:33 AM
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Thanks for the response.Maybe you just don't get the point of me saying why he shouldn't turbo,at the end of the day the dude will do what he thinks is best.He asked for opinion and I gave it.I have a 6spd and I love it to death but you have to ask yourself a question,is it a project car or everyday car???Don't be ignorant,a turbo for that car will easily run you 8-12k and an additional 5k to have the transmission rebuild to support the the power that the turbo will put out.I'm not being negative,i'm just giving an ipinion.Quick question,is your car turbo'd up?END OF STORY!!!