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upgrade for hedlight xinon system

Old Aug 7, 2012 | 02:44 PM
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upgrade for hedlight xinon system

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My 04 max got some issues with headlights xinon system and they dont work fine .

I want to replace the system with something better . Something that can fit in place of the OEM system . Any suggestions ?
Old Aug 8, 2012 | 07:01 AM
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I found this in ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-2004-201...59f37f&vxp=mtr


what do you think about it ?

is it stronger than OEM ballast ?
Old Aug 8, 2012 | 11:52 AM
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The 6th gens use gen III Matsush!ta ballasts. The one that you posted is the gen IV Matsush!ta ballast which is newer, I'm not sure how much better they actually are, but they are 100% swappable. There is currently an even newer gen V version, I am not sure if it is 100% swappable or not, but if it follows their trend then it should be. The gen V version is available on theretrofitsource.com, they have great customer service so you can ask them if the gen V can replace the gen III.

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/pro...roducts_id=147

Are you sure that the ballasts are bad? What exactly is happening?
Old Aug 9, 2012 | 04:53 AM
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I washed my car in the washing machine in the morning . In the night I just turned on the lights to start diving , I noticed the left one (driver side) is not working. Later , I went to elictretion to see what is the problem . When he took out the ballast , it was flooded by water . Water coming out from it .

So I decide to put a universal system , ballast with pulp and keep the old one with me until I find a new system for both (left and right) . Actualy both should be replaced because they are being week and I can't see from them . That's why I ask for stronger ballast .
Old Aug 9, 2012 | 01:03 PM
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Water leaking from the ballast? I'm not sure how that can happen, the OEM ballast is mounted underneath the headlight, is sealed on the outside of the headlight and seals against the headlight. It would be pretty hard to flood the ballast. Just to make sure, are your headlights OEM HID's? Do you have a picture of your ballast and bulb? And just so you know, the bulbs make a bigger difference in brightness than the ballasts do. The bulbs age quicker than than the ballasts, so if the bulbs are old you may just need new bulbs. Stick with Philips or Osram bulbs if you want brighter lights again.
Old Aug 9, 2012 | 06:38 PM
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I have replaced the bulbs two months ago . It was Hella and I installed the same bulb . I saw big a deference but thats not good enough . The yellow bulbs ( non xenon ) are more powerful than my xenon .
Old Aug 10, 2012 | 04:54 PM
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Sounds like u got a pnp kit. Oem bulbs would be made by Phillips osram
Old Aug 12, 2012 | 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by mrkhone
Sounds like u got a pnp kit. Oem bulbs would be made by Phillips osram
I dont know what is pnp ??? what I know is hella made in germani and they are good . most of BMW cars use hella bulb .

most of the peple here take their xenon system from BMW junk yards .

anyway . I just ordred the ballasts and got my hands on philips bulb .

I wont through the old system away. I will use it on the fog lights . that will make better lightining.
Old Aug 12, 2012 | 04:02 PM
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Without starting a new thread, I have the OEM HIDs and my driver side one went out several months ago. When I put a new bulb in, it still doesnt work. Is it the ballast? How do you diagnose the problem?
Old Aug 12, 2012 | 08:52 PM
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You check the fuses?
Old Aug 14, 2012 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by smokin5s
You check the fuses?
Yes, all fuses are good.
Old Aug 14, 2012 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by maxam
Good day

My 04 max got some issues with headlights xinon system and they dont work fine .

I want to replace the system with something better . Something that can fit in place of the OEM system . Any suggestions ?
see the retrofit source

get new projectors/ballasts/bulbs.
Old Aug 15, 2012 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by maxam
I dont know what is pnp ??? what I know is hella made in germani and they are good . most of BMW cars use hella bulb .

most of the peple here take their xenon system from BMW junk yards .

anyway . I just ordred the ballasts and got my hands on philips bulb .

I wont through the old system away. I will use it on the fog lights . that will make better lightining.
pnp is plug-n-play, meaning an aftermarket kit. The only OEM Hella components of the Maxima lighting are the projectors. Please post pictures of your old ballasts/bulbs so we can verify you have OEM xenon lighting.

Originally Posted by DeusExMaxima
Without starting a new thread, I have the OEM HIDs and my driver side one went out several months ago. When I put a new bulb in, it still doesnt work. Is it the ballast? How do you diagnose the problem?
Swap the ballast from the driver side to the passenger side and see if the problem follows the ballast.
Old Aug 16, 2012 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by joecurr

Swap the ballast from the driver side to the passenger side and see if the problem follows the ballast.
Is the ballast the silver box that plugs into the light?
Old Aug 16, 2012 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DeusExMaxima
Is the ballast the silver box that plugs into the light?
If it's OEM it should be a dark grey circular ballast underneath the headlight, looks exactly like this.



There are three screws holding it in. Once those are removed, unscrew and unclip the igniter and you should be able to easily swap the ballasts.
Old Aug 17, 2012 | 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by joecurr
If it's OEM it should be a dark grey circular ballast underneath the headlight, looks exactly like this.



There are three screws holding it in. Once those are removed, unscrew and unclip the igniter and you should be able to easily swap the ballasts.
Yes. This is it .
Old Aug 17, 2012 | 03:31 PM
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maxam, if you have OEM ballasts and one is bad, you can either just replace that ballast or if you want replace both with at least the Gen IV's. Regarding your lack of output brightness, there are several things that can be happening, but the ballast shouldn't affect anything (assuming the ballasts are working). The ballasts are more of a "they either work or don't work" kind of thing. The two things that really affect the brightness are the bulbs and the projectors.

You said you replaced your bulbs with Hella bulbs (which I believe are rebranded GE bulbs), were they used or new? Are they 4300K color? There are other bulbs that perform better than others, one of the cheaper options is the Phillips 85122+, more expensive options are the Osram 66240 SVS and the 66240 CBI (SVS is 4300K, CBI is 5000K).

For projectors, you can inspect the inside of the reflector bowl to check for any burn marks as that will definitely decrease your output brightness. If you remove the cap to access your bulbs, you can remove the projector through there by removing the 6 screws (2 for a heat shield, 4 for the projector). If there are burn marks on the inside of the bowl, you can find replacement projectors on theretrofitsource.com. As for replacements, you can use the same projector (Maxima E55) or the Hella EvoX-R (aftermarket E55 style). I personally am using the EvoX-R's and the output is a bit better than the E55's. There are tradeoffs because the EvoX-R is an aftermarket projector, but I think the benefits outweigh the tradeoffs.
Old Aug 19, 2012 | 01:57 AM
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I have OEM HIDs. Do I need to remove the bumper to get the ballast or is it accessible with bumper in place?
Old Aug 19, 2012 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by DeusExMaxima
I have OEM HIDs. Do I need to remove the bumper to get the ballast or is it accessible with bumper in place?
you'll need to take the bumper off and remove the whole headlight assembly. the oem ballasts are mounted directly under each headlight.
Old Aug 19, 2012 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by joecurr
maxam, if you have OEM ballasts and one is bad, you can either just replace that ballast or if you want replace both with at least the Gen IV's. Regarding your lack of output brightness, there are several things that can be happening, but the ballast shouldn't affect anything (assuming the ballasts are working). The ballasts are more of a "they either work or don't work" kind of thing. The two things that really affect the brightness are the bulbs and the projectors.

You said you replaced your bulbs with Hella bulbs (which I believe are rebranded GE bulbs), were they used or new? Are they 4300K color? There are other bulbs that perform better than others, one of the cheaper options is the Phillips 85122+, more expensive options are the Osram 66240 SVS and the 66240 CBI (SVS is 4300K, CBI is 5000K).

For projectors, you can inspect the inside of the reflector bowl to check for any burn marks as that will definitely decrease your output brightness. If you remove the cap to access your bulbs, you can remove the projector through there by removing the 6 screws (2 for a heat shield, 4 for the projector). If there are burn marks on the inside of the bowl, you can find replacement projectors on theretrofitsource.com. As for replacements, you can use the same projector (Maxima E55) or the Hella EvoX-R (aftermarket E55 style). I personally am using the EvoX-R's and the output is a bit better than the E55's. There are tradeoffs because the EvoX-R is an aftermarket projector, but I think the benefits outweigh the tradeoffs.
My Hella are new 4300 35W . I will check the projectors when The ballasts arrived .
If you have an ebay link for new projectors that will hellp alot .

Ammmmm . My Hella are new
Old Aug 20, 2012 | 05:54 PM
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I have OEM HIDs. Do I need to remove the bumper to get the ballast or is it accessible with bumper in place?
Originally Posted by AscendantMax
you'll need to take the bumper off and remove the whole headlight assembly. the oem ballasts are mounted directly under each headlight.
What he said. You need access to the bottom of the headlight, will be a lot easier to do if you just remove both headlights altogether.

Originally Posted by maxam
My Hella are new 4300 35W . I will check the projectors when The ballasts arrived .
If you have an ebay link for new projectors that will hellp alot .

Ammmmm . My Hella are new
Yeah, that would be a good time to check them. For the Maxima E55's, you'll have to contact theretrofitsource.com directly since it isn't listed on their website anymore, but they do have them. Below is an eBay link and a direct link to their website for the EvoX-R's, both links are the same seller. For some reason the direct link is $10 cheaper than eBay, probably because of eBay fees.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HELLA-EVO-XR...346cb4&vxp=mtr
http://www.theretrofitsource.com/pro...products_id=92
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