I feel the same way, i now have the BD on my Qx56 which is nite and day difference with the BD. The Max stayed with the +2 degree and i feel like nothing has changed since i took the BD out. No difference whatsoever and really started to feel like the BD wasn't meant for this platform, more for trucks from what I see or V8's not V6's

 

Anyone else feel like this? My first impression was that there was more power. I havn't changed back to stock tune in quite some time. If the concensus is that we are actually LOSING power than I will be selling mine... If I have time I will monkey with it this weekend... don't think I'll have time though.

 

got my bd yesterday and i installed it, havent really had the chance to try it out wot cause it was pouring raining out , but one thing i did notice while driving normal, was doing about 20, 25 mph and letting the car roll, i kept feeling like a hard downshift ( i hope im explaning this right) , anyway. i set the idle back to normal and it stopped. Did anyone have this issue or notices this as well?

 

I agree. BD's main focus is truck performance. I think they saw an opportunity to market their truck product to similar car platforms. It seems those with the PUP on their trucks are seeing noticeable gains but those with it on their cars don't seem to be getting anywhere near the same type of results.

 

after trying it out today , i do feel the car a bit more responsive nothing crazy tho in city driving. I havent had a chance to bring it on the highway yet

 

help i cant get my bd to set my car back to stock so i can run it on my friends truck. i try to set everything back to stock, then it loads up to 100% then it freezes.

 

your best bet is to contact bd something may be wrong with the unit itself

 

I had the same thing happen to me when I first got my unit and what happened was that I had my GPS plugged up when I ran the BD (you're not supposed to have anything else on when setting up the unit) it froze up and drained my battery.

Eventually I had to contact BD and get the Techs to tell me what to do; they told me to go to the website and download the program again and install it into the unit and then start the programming of my car all over and it worked.

Good luck

 

Any more updates?

 

Not hearing much good about Bully Dog? any other possibilities for programmers.

 

No updates from Bullydog, it seems that they aren't concerned with this unit but they are more concentrated on their newer units.

 

This is deff dead, kinda sad how bullydog lied to us about them working on removing wot limiter, and fixing the rev limiter as well

 

BD didn't lie, they just couldn't find any problems limiting our WOT. Personally, I believe they couldn't get past Nissan's programming that won't allow the torque steer that it used to.

I also believe that their other units are doing far better than the version we have so they just set it aside. As I also recall somewhere here in one of these threads it was discussed that Nissan's ECU will cut power after so many mods because it will cause problems with the MAF, fuel economy, usage life of many of our stock internals as well as driveability issues.

Or something to that effect.

My guess overall is that Nissan built the Maxima up from grass roots not to be able to be faster than the G or Z and incorporated fixed limits into the programming of the CPU in order to keep it from usurping some of the market sales due to being faster or as fast as the G and Z.

Just think about it; if the Maxima was faster than the G and Z with its' looks and 4 doors, plus has a lower price than both, then who would buy a G or Z??

 

everyone who thinks 4 doors are for soccer-dads.

 

Did bd themself tell you they couldnt find a problem with the wot limiter because the last time i checked they told me they were still working on it and the rev limiter problem, i think they said said that to keep us quiet.

 

I just re-loaded the BD this afternoon, I had taken it off when my car went in for service and to get the driver's seat rocking fixed. I gotta say..... I feel a very noticable gain in power. Maybe it's just my car, I dono, but it brings it from being fast to realllly fast.

 

that +2 timing advance helps

 

BD told me that and I highly doubt it was just to shut us up because if you remember they gave me a timeline on when they thought they'd have this problem fixed but they never delivered within the timeframe.

Later after waiting even more months or so I got back in touch to try and find out what was the latest update and they gave me the answer that they could not find a problem with the WOT restriction.

Shortly after all of that it seems that BD began to focus more on their newer unit.

Here's what was in the email I got from them:

Since then nothing has been heard of them, so that tells you that they are not working on it nor do they plan to.

 

ok..well thats solves the wot restriction, did you hear any word on them correcting the rev limiter problem?

 

Sorry Bro, I didn't really know everyone was having a problem with the Rev Limiter! My tune does what it was supposed to do, I hit 7100 with no problem.

You might want to try reinstalling the tune and see if that fixes it or contact them while you're setting it up and then hit the gas after the program is loaded just to see where you Tach needle position is.

Let me know if you call them while doing it and testing it out.

 

thanks, yea my option to raise the rev limiter doesnt work at all, im really suprised you hit 7100 with no problem, thats amazing, imma gonna try and re install the tune asap, and if anything ill give them a call.

 

You keep talking about this thing....has anyone taken it to the track and actually tested it?

 

Im having problems installing my PP ... I get the current software version 0.4.1 and when I put PP in car after the reading engine it says I have to go do an other update..... AM I doing something wrong ???I have ign, off till it tells me to turn to on the its 2 pushes of starter button till it says on correct???

 

There comes a point when you are holding the accelerator pedal down that you'll hit the gas and it'll feel like the pedal can travel no further then all of a sudden you feel like this little click and the pedal depresses further and your Rev Limiter climbs and stays at 7100.

I wasn't sure at first why some people were not hitting it and then i bought and installed a new battery and lost my tune due to the disconnect, when i uploaded the tune again and tried to achieve the same tune as before it didn't seem to work but i'm gonna uninstall it and try again some time later in the future.

 

I think you're doing everything correctly but ensure that you do not have anything else plugged or synced to your car (through your cigarette lighter plugs/accessory plugs).

Just try it again and do not use the instruction sheet but use the PP unit and follow whatever it tells you to do but be patient and allow it to cycle through everything until it finally tells you what to do.

 

Here is my recommendation to all of you who have complaints about the Bullydog Power Pup unit, go to this website: http://beta.bullydog.com/beta_registration.php and fill out the data but just explain that you have purchased the Power Pup and tell them what you like about it and what you do not, tell them all the problems you have experienced.
Maybe if they get enough of us doing this they will begin to look into this to see if there is a problem or if they can fix whatever you feel is broken.
Thanks and I hope this helps.

 

These cars have tons of tunability....the CVT transmission alone could be tuned to give alot better gearing for acceleration...everyone keeps talking about how things feel>>>The car feels different every time you stomp it...i am wanting to purchase one of these...but no one has given anything legit to back up the fact it is making any more power or not? Has no one installed the thing...taken it to the track... then returned to stock tune? That is pretty much the only way to tell if you gained anything...tenths or MPH?

 

I guess what everyone was looking for is hardline numbers like from a dyno of before and after and since that is nearly impossible with the CVT most have abandoned the BD unit as well as just about any other power gaining apparatus barring an intake.

If the CVT is as tuneable as you say it is then why don't someone focus on getting a product out there so we can do a plug and play to alter our gearing?

I'd be down for a project that involves loaning my car out to engineer such a product should someone close enough to TX offer it.

Please elaborate on how this tuning would work for me, I'm not a technical person when it comes to autos.

Thanks in advance.

 

Honestly, I doubt there's much of a market for it with the 7th Gen.

 

A quick question. I have a 07 Maxima and was wondering- have any of you tried the BD PP or TrippleDog while turning the Traction control off? Could it be that if the traction control is turned on that and causing it to hold back from its full potential? Just thinking of anything that could hold this car back for giving it everything it has.

 

I always ride with my TC turned off unless it is raining or the roads are wet and I noticed that even without the BD the TC bogs down the car when you just begin accelarating from one to about 30 or even 40mph.

The problem in our cars is the gearing with this CVT when it comes to putting down some serious speed, there are cars with less hp that can go faster or cars that have lesser hp/tq that are faster, why is that?

Nissan programs the Maxima to be slower than a Z or G35 when they could actually program them to run the same.

 

My question is will i gain any fuel economy with this programmer? I have this same tuner for my 04 silverado and have gained a full 5 mpg, but will it help my maxima? I would try it but i have my bully dog hooked up really well in my truck and hate to take it all apart.

 

Also can i install the tuner on my 04 maxima? If i did during setup would i just tell the tuner that my car is an 05???

 

I would say that if you already have everything set up on your truck, then just advance the timing +2 on your Maxima and call it a day. That and lighten up on the throttle.

 

Yes you will gain fuel economy if you adjust to that setting, personally even though i know gas is expensive I refuse to set mine up for economy during local driving, I only do it for long trips.

 

So I read to page 8 and started to see a trend... no real results and questionable gains on the 7th gen platform?

 

So basically we can remove a tuner like the Bullydog and just drive around for a few days to clear out the computer before going in for warranty work? That'd be nice.

 

Pretty much but what isn't confirmed is the exact problem (the gains), because from what I understand there is really no way to accurately dyno a CVT so it doesn't actually mean there are "no" gains, just no way to really measure them.

Buttdyno assessments is all that we seem to have here to either confirm and not confirm gains or not, if that's the way you accept actual facts or not then I guess we can continue with the trend.

Can we sticky this thread as the Official Bullydog Thread for questions and answers about it? This thread seems to keep coming back every now and then.

 

^^+1 Lets sticky this thread, always popping up, people still have interest in this, make it the official tuning thread or something. Just a question, can we thro the trans into M mode and shoot up to fourth gear on a dyno or it still wont worK?

 

I haven't heard of anyone thinking of trying such a thing, maybe you could be the first and let us all know how that works??