Ok, just got back and tried it in M mode, still 6200? makes you wanta go hummmm

 

It's not possible because of the CVT unfortunately...

 

I know a dyno run is out of the question, but there must be some way to calculate a decent estimate, no?

 

Well Nissan did it stock and said 290?????

 

Well what you guys have to realize is that Nissan is simply speaking of the engine's output dynoed by itself and in its' stock form makes 290HP but power/tq to the wheels is totally different once you hook a car to a manual, an auto or cvt tranny.

I believe that this engine makes 290HP on a dyno but it is just totally impossible to gauge how much it puts down to the ground through the cvt whether you are adding mods or not but especially moreso when you are adding mods.

IMO the best thing to do is run a baseline figure based on Nissan's stock rating then add in what the average calculations of such aftermarket mods are normally known to make (i.e., Intake is normally between 7-11HP) that gives you a baseline when added with 290 + 7-11 (whichever figure you take) will end up 297 to 301HP and that isn't to the wheels that I'm speaking of.

So in essence when you add in all your mods, Intake, Full Exhaust, lightweight UDP, Headers, Cams or whatever else then on a baseline (using the base specs the engine will rate well above 300HP) but going to the wheels you have to account for drivetrain loss (which we don't know about on a CVT).

 

Well when it cools down we always have the dragstrip to test with...

Do you have a iPhone? I do but haven't played with this yet...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-DFbJQbeSY

 

Theres about a 15percent loss of horsepower usually when you dyno a rwd car, I dont know if the number could is the same for the cvt, and a fwd car. But if you wanted to get a ballpark estimate of fwhp you could just do the 15 percent of what your total crank(engine horsepower) is

 

Ok then I have approx 325hp :-)

 

Anything new on the WOT?

 

Not yet, didnt someone mention that they were going to give a call to BD?

 

yea guys, ill give them a call today and see if i can get how their progress is going and im assuming i should ask for that guy tim(the tech) right?

 

I believe bk2k3 is on top of this task!! Hopefully he will hear something soon!

 

ohh ok great, its been a while tho since i heard anything about the wot remover

 

That would be 15% loss of power.

 

Yea, I know just wishing. But if there is know way of knowing, what the hell, dream on... 325hp

 

I just wanted to let you guys know that bumping up timing by 2 degrees is AWESOME!

It REALLY woke things up and I'm basically stock with a BD and UDP.

Shifts are quicker and the car pulls much harder throughout the band. Great mod!

 

LOL Gotcha!

Hey Alpha... you coming to the Chicago Nissan meet on Aug. 30th? PM me so we don't derail this thread...

 

Ok so I figured that I'd entertain myself so i set my maxima back to stock and put the BD on my Qx56, put it on extreme mode with WOT, and holy smokes I couldn't believe what a beast my truck turned into. The minute I touched the pedal the truck just bounced and started hauling ***. I took it on the expressway and felt like i was in a very fast car, i completely forgot i was driving an SUV. That beast must of gone from 325hp to easily 350hp. I am in shock of what this little Triple Dog GT can do for our vehicles, if this WOT on the Maxima is anything like the truck then you guys are going to be in for a lot of fun. WoW unreal. So i put the Qx56 now to fuelsaver and it drives so slow and gentle but i feel proud to know that its doing better then 14mpg. So much fun.

 

ughhhhh maxdout now your really making me want this wot removed already LOL

 

Well guys the last email I got from Tim told me that it was going to be awhile, apparently there are some serious issues with the tuning in regards to the CVT but I will send another prodding email tonigh to Tim to see if he can turn the leaf over for me as to whether or not this is the issue.

Honestly, i suspect that the CVT is main issue here because if this wasn't the case then why is it that on all the other Nissan's cars and trucks they have a useable WOT but on our car they don't??

I'll give you guys an update when I hear something but please do not call them because they're looking at me as the Rep for this forum to pass on their info.

Thanks

 

that dont sound too good

 

I would give up the CVT in a heart beat to get rid of the WOT!! Wish that was an option!!!
By the way, thanks for handling this for us, you have another test dummy here to!

 

I don't think it's ever going to happen. It's obviously in place for a reason and I bet BD doesn't want to be held responsible by Nissan/Owners for a bunch of dead CVT's across the country...

 

Does that mean that they will eventually release a 'partial WOT remover', like one that allows 90% WOT rather than the stock 80% (or whatever it is)? Regardless, I am very happy with the unit and am glad I got it. The car is so much more enjoyable to drive now. I'm amazed at how much of a difference it has made.

 

i was thinking the same thing

 

That is an excellent point, though I'm not 100% certain that the CVT itself is the issue, the point is though "what else can it be"?

I will suggest what you've stated here to them in case that's the issue.


I don't think BD is worried about any of our problems with our cars because they have a disclaimer on their products.

 

So I've had the BD now for about 3/4 tank of gas. I know it may be a little premature to report on gas milage, but with the premium setting and +2 deg advance, I am right around my average fuel consumption BEFORE the BD. I'm pretty happy with that. I'm averaging like 22-24 MPG and I do a 50/50 split of HW and City driving. I will floor it occasionally, but typically act the same as before I had it. The car is sooo much more responsive with my regular style of driving, nevermind if I get the need for speed.
I am going on a trip to the adirondacks this weekend (A little over 4 hours away) so I am very interested to see what kind of milage I will get on purely highway. I plan to keep my settings the way they are.

 

Let us know!

 

enjoy and have a safe trip

 

Set it for economy and put your timing back to stock if you're aiming at saving gas and drive slow (I know it's hard to do in these cars) and you'll be amazed how well your car performs on the highway as far as mileage is concerned.

Have a fun and safe weekend

 

Quick question, did all of you start of with -2 on your Maxima, because when i hooked up my triple dog gt it was set at 0 and i put it at +2. So i'm at +2 now, so my question is are you guys at 0 now after you did +2 on ur timing or are you at +2 after you did your +2 on ur timing? Keep me updated if anyone can because I'm riding at +2 now and hoping that I haven't had an advance of +4 by accident.

 

Good question, I'm not sure of the answer except that I am at "Target Timing: +2". I hope this is really +2 and not +4 like you say. I'm curious myself now. Also, what should the stock setting be, 0 or -2? I want to know so when I set it back to stock before I go in for service I have the right settings.

 

As far as I know, all of us started out with -2 on our timing and some of us advanced it to +2. If yours was at 0 then somehow (or maybe someone) your timing was already advanced to 0 (neutral) and if you do advance it you will be setting it at +4.

Either way, it won't hurt your car for you to advance your timing that far, now your car should idle 1000 RPMS higher than the normal (Stock) settings.

I wish I could advance mine at least another 500 RPMS.

 

What is the "safe" range then? Is +2 pushing it and should I back down to 0? This is all new to me.

 

yeah same here, mine started at 0 and my triple dog gt lets me advance it to +4 but i have it at +2, i'm wondering if im losing power now, i will put it back to 0 and see if there is a difference. I haven't felt any knocking but just wondering if everyone who advance there timing with the BD if they all started out at -2. at it doesn't idle 1000rpms more then i know of. I will check when i get in my car and get back to you.

 

Ya my RPM's did not change. If I upped the idle settings they would. I'm wondering now if maybe I should go back to 0. I'm changing it back to -2 anyway for my service appt on thursday (15k mile service and eibach springs installed). Anyone have any insight as to what settings would yeild the most performance gains while remaining in the without-question-safe-for-the-engine zone?

 

93 octane, Premium tune, +2 degrees over stock (0) and you're good to go. Safety, performance, and reliability in almost any climate/conditions.

 

Awesome. Thanks for that.

 

Stock setting was set at -2. I set it at +2 (+2 is displayed on the readout) with the Premium setting. As long as it starts well and it doesn't knock when you put your foot into it, you are good to go. Just listen for any abnormal engine noises, if so back it up to '0" and see were you stand. +2 should not be any problem for you as long as you are using 91 or higher fuel.

 

ok wait guys im confused, why are some are at stock 0 and some are stock -2??