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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 03:58 AM
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^ Thats ricer math.
Its like those craigslist ads..."2005 ACCORD FOR SALE...300+HP WITH INTAKE AND EXHAUST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
I don't see the connection.
Old Sep 10, 2009 | 05:34 AM
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I think the 4DSC sticker adds 30 hp.

Where could I put a NOS sticker?
Old Sep 11, 2009 | 08:38 AM
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I think the slowness has to do with the way the CVT is "programmed" to deliver power.
Old Sep 11, 2009 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BLACKNESS MONSTA
^ Thats ricer math.
Its like those craigslist ads..."2005 ACCORD FOR SALE...300+HP WITH INTAKE AND EXHAUST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Well, i think most here disagree with you because they have enough "common sense" to make the obvious connection.

On the other hand though I would agree with you if this was an Accord because they are down on HP/TQ in comparison with an 09 Maxima.

Our cars are 290HP stock, adding an intake brings between 7-11HP, add it together but obviously you missed this part in my last post when I said "it isn't exact".

Call it what you want but it isn't Ricer Math, it's just plain old math or maybe you didn't take that subject in Grade School
Old Sep 11, 2009 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by bk2k3max
Well, i think most here disagree with you because they have enough "common sense" to make the obvious connection.

On the other hand though I would agree with you if this was an Accord because they are down on HP/TQ in comparison with an 09 Maxima.

Our cars are 290HP stock, adding an intake brings between 7-11HP, add it together but obviously you missed this part in my last post when I said "it isn't exact".

Call it what you want but it isn't Ricer Math, it's just plain old math or maybe you didn't take that subject in Grade School
That's what i'm sayin... doing arithmetic to estimate approximate hp/tq is far from 'ricer math'. Then again, I havn't checked the definition in the dictionary.
Old Sep 11, 2009 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bk2k3max
Well, i think most here disagree with you because they have enough "common sense" to make the obvious connection.

On the other hand though I would agree with you if this was an Accord because they are down on HP/TQ in comparison with an 09 Maxima.

Our cars are 290HP stock, adding an intake brings between 7-11HP, add it together but obviously you missed this part in my last post when I said "it isn't exact".

Call it what you want but it isn't Ricer Math, it's just plain old math or maybe you didn't take that subject in Grade School
lol at trying to insult ppl over the internet.
Ricer math is basically adding estimated gains from performance parts to your total hp output. For example:

CAI = 15hp
Custom Exhaust = 20hp
Headers = 28hp

A ricer would claim that his car now has 353hp (290 + 63)
while in reality a n/a engine would only gain a fraction of that

btw i would no longer be insulting Honda engines if i were u...the Honda V6 is on the Wards ten best list which is something u can no longer say about the VQ...
Old Sep 11, 2009 | 06:50 PM
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I currently have an 07 2.5 Altima as a loaner and I have to say, it accelerates pretty quickly once you get past the initial bite off the line. I think the CVT in all forms is just slow to fire up but the secondary push is smooth and fast.

yup i noticed that also....in DS mode once it hits the 2nd gear it just takes off ....but from 0-40 its a little slugish....not slow slugish but it should spin tire hard with traction off .......

talking about ricer math....my intake added 5hp!!! ....and thats actually real statistics ....
Old Mar 16, 2010 | 08:28 PM
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computer mods

The real power of this car is in the 30-90 mph range( referencing legal drag racing... cough..cough)

i have little desire to hit 80 plus MPH its illegal for one thing in any area around me but it seems the car only takes off after 40 or 50 mphand too quickly you are going fast.. I'd much rather zoom around real quik 0-40- 60.The slugishness under 40 really bothers me.Ds is very helpful but as said it only rockets when your gettin close to the legal limitn and then you of course cant go any faster and must apply the brakes.Has anyone found any computer mods that will change the accesibility of the tourqe and HP to allow quicker acceleration in the low end.?.I really cant enjoy what this car has ,My 97 had less HP but it was much more aceesable at lower RPM.I noticed all max's since then have had tourque Hp band accesable @ higher an higher RPMs.
Old Mar 16, 2010 | 09:04 PM
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idk if this helps but before i cleaned my IAV i had a weird smell going in my car when i floor it, and now that it's cleaned i dont get that smell anymore hope that helps?
Old Mar 16, 2010 | 09:36 PM
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The real power of this car is in the 30-90 mph range( referencing legal drag racing... cough..cough)

i have little desire to hit 80 plus MPH its illegal for one thing in any area around me but it seems the car only takes off after 40 or 50 mphand too quickly you are going fast.. I'd much rather zoom around real quik 0-40- 60.The slugishness under 40 really bothers me.Ds is very helpful but as said it only rockets when your gettin close to the legal limitn and then you of course cant go any faster and must apply the brakes.Has anyone found any computer mods that will change the accesibility of the tourqe and HP to allow quicker acceleration in the low end.?.I really cant enjoy what this car has ,My 97 had less HP but it was much more aceesable at lower RPM.I noticed all max's since then have had tourque Hp band accesable @ higher an higher RPMs.
Honestly, I believe that when Nissan decided to kill the dreaded "Torque Steer Monster" in the Maxima they intentionally dialed down the power on the low end and thus ended the hotrod era of Maximas doing the Lane Dance as it hunted for traction upon launch.

I missed the ability to be able to torquebrake and launch my Maxima (that's one of the reasons I kept my 03) because that thing was a beast on take-off and would surprise many cars in stoplight drags.

The 09-10 Maximas are far more civilized today and tend to focus on putting the power down where it seems to be more useful 40-80mph for normal highway passing.

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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by bk2k3max
Honestly, I believe that when Nissan decided to kill the dreaded "Torque Steer Monster" in the Maxima they intentionally dialed down the power on the low end and thus ended the hotrod era of Maximas doing the Lane Dance as it hunted for traction upon launch.

I missed the ability to be able to torquebrake and launch my Maxima (that's one of the reasons I kept my 03) because that thing was a beast on take-off and would surprise many cars in stoplight drags.

The 09-10 Maximas are far more civilized today and tend to focus on putting the power down where it seems to be more useful 40-80mph for normal highway passing.

I agree. I don't race cars from lights, so, the fact that takeoff from standstill in this 7th gen can be more noise and RPMs than actual acelleration doesn't bother me. But when I pull out to pass, this baby is shot from a cannon. I like that. Nissan's setup suits my needs well.
Old Mar 17, 2010 | 03:34 PM
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Per the Edmunds 2009 Maxima SV review, these cars have a torque-limiter programmed into the ECU. I'm unaware of any way to disable it. Without it, and with performance tires, a car of this power-to-weight ratio would be capable of 0-60 in 5.5 or better. Easily enough to take an Altima 2.5, one would think.
Old Mar 17, 2010 | 03:42 PM
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The power debate will just depends on your driving habits, most people like the power to be more useable for the streets that is a fact. Those of you that do alot of hwy cruising after 40 or 50 its not a problem. The 09 Maxima that I have rented on business I can feel what Maximumbs is saying, but after 50 or so I can see what Light is saying. Overall from the 5.5 to 7th gen, they all are 14 something sec 1/4 mile in the 90's mph for mph trap speeds power is just delivered a bit different but end result similiar. Its called give and take!

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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by alexdi
Easily enough to take an Altima 2.5, one would think.

Ummm . . . 0-60 in an Altima 2.5 is 8.3, while the torque-limited Maxima is between 5.8 and 6.2, depending on which testing service we trust. Either you meant the Altima 3.5 (which the Maxima can still beat) or you were simply being a little cynical in voicing disappointment in Maxima's torque limitation.

I would imagine there would be a way to bypass this torque limitation, but I would also think there is a reason it is there. My first suspect would be that Nissan wants to be sure we have few CVT failures. Especially since they now warranty these CVTs for ten years.

One thing there can be no doubt about: if we bypassed the torque limiter, then had a power train problem, we could have a tough time getting sympathy or help from Nissan.
Old Mar 17, 2010 | 10:32 PM
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maybe it was A 3.5 sleeper
Old Mar 18, 2010 | 05:05 AM
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KillaKam - The Altima (I know, it was last year) may have had some sort of forced induction or even a small shot of nitrous, and the smell you mentioned might have been from him rather than you.


If you're going to play quick little acceleration games, don't go up against the other guy's strength. Make him come to yours. If he won't play from a 35 roll, just let him stew in his own juice by not getting yourself sucked in to a zero to 40 game that you know you're at a disadvantage in. He'll either find a way to feel foolish all by himself or will figure out that you can't be suckered. Either way, you've won the psychological battle. This does not mean that you have to creep away from a dead stop, just drive away like it was any other moment in normal driving with traffic.


Originally Posted by lightonthehill
One thing there can be no doubt about: if we bypassed the torque limiter, then had a power train problem, we could have a tough time getting sympathy or help from Nissan.
Absolutely! Failures not related to car modifications are warranty-able, but any failure that's a direct consequence of a mod can clearly be denied. Given the state of the new car sales side of the automotive business in general, I don't see anybody being willing to shell out under warranty for jobs that need not be covered.


Norm

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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 06:34 PM
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Well all,
its nice and warm out latley and the car sure seems alot faster with the windows open... maybe i'l forget about "light jumping and 0-40 until a rice burner comes up and smokes me.

I do apreciate the insane passing power as I had said your at a high speed dangerously quick
as for the give and take my preference is a little more off the line as my driving rarley has me exceeding 70 mph.
Aceesiblity of the power is the issue I have had with all gens I test drove since my 97 and have not purchased.The more hp they pump up the higher RPM it is accesd at adn thus a low end availability.My 97 had excellent off the line and passing power all with 195hp.
I'd be interested to see the stock#s on both cars if any one knows where to find them both.Also 0-40 40-60 and 0-60 on 2010s.
I wouldnt try modifying if it would void wareenty.
I agree the DS mode is really quick I think better than I could do using paddle shift at aceessing the power.

I find D just anoying when starting off slowly i tend to shift to Ds and tap the peddle to get it to shift to higher rpm to avid that groaning srtruggle car seems to have on gentle starts.
Old Mar 18, 2010 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MAXIMUMBS
Well all,
its nice and warm out latley and the car sure seems alot faster with the windows open... maybe i'l forget about "light jumping and 0-40 until a rice burner comes up and smokes me.

I do apreciate the insane passing power as I had said your at a high speed dangerously quick
as for the give and take my preference is a little more off the line as my driving rarley has me exceeding 70 mph.
Aceesiblity of the power is the issue I have had with all gens I test drove since my 97 and have not purchased.The more hp they pump up the higher RPM it is accesd at adn thus a low end availability.My 97 had excellent off the line and passing power all with 195hp.
I'd be interested to see the stock#s on both cars if any one knows where to find them both.Also 0-40 40-60 and 0-60 on 2010s.
I wouldnt try modifying if it would void wareenty.
I agree the DS mode is really quick I think better than I could do using paddle shift at aceessing the power.

I find D just anoying when starting off slowly i tend to shift to Ds and tap the peddle to get it to shift to higher rpm to avid that groaning srtruggle car seems to have on gentle starts.
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Old Mar 21, 2010 | 02:16 PM
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I recently had a 2.5 Altima rental for a day and you should def be able to catch up to that car in your Max. I was interested in finding out the power difference between the two while I had the chance to do it first hand. I was actualy impressed with how quick the 2.5 altima was from a dead stop. Very impressive for a 4 cyl. I must say. That's good for 0-40 around town all day but that's it. I can tell you the big difference was on the highway. If your going anything above 60 good luck pulling away from someone. I punched the gas going 65 to pull away from traffic and all that little engine did was make a lot of noise. No accel on the high end. That's totally different from the Maxima. You can be on the interstate going 80 and if you want to get away from traffic ( or other cars acting a fool or swerving *not speeding for the record* ) you can his the Gas in the Maxima and that car will still jerk you back and get up and move away. Lots of power even on the high end.

If your max won't jerk you when you accel from 80 then I would say you might have an issue. If you can still move away quick from 80, you might not have a problem.

Are you sure it was a 2.5 or could it have been a 3.5 debadged? I don't know from first hand experience but I'm sure the 3.5 altimas are pretty quick.

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