So i decided to put 15mm HnR spacers from stillen i ordered on the front of my max...and 30mm HnR spacers from stillen on my rear...big mistake...the longer bolts stillen sent me didnt have the bulky thread the stock ones had and 3 bolts stripped within a month...rediculous...i had to get one welded off...pain in the butt...i dont recommend to anyone...i went back to stock and it feels much better...i think the spacers put strain on the eibachs...dunno...what you guys think?

 

Pictures?

 

the stillen website got pics of the spacers....u can see my car on my page...it has the spacers on...u can tell cuz the wheels are flush with the fenders...but just for that, i cant deal with the problems...id rather have the wheels pushed in more than have problems with the ride!

 

Strange; you sure they werent cross threaded or overtorqued?

 

i thought maybe over torqued...but i mean...cmon...our stock ones dont get stripped no matter how much torque the guns got....y all of a sudden the aftermarket ones got stripped....i dunno...maybe it was the douche who put them on for me...thats wat sux about nyc....so many shops but half the mechanics just handy men who dont kno **** !

 

I think Nissan still calls for 85 ft lbs of torque for the 7th gen Maxima (same as the 5th and 6th gens). But I always torque 80 ft lbs in order to minimize stress on everything involved. My son has been torquing 75 ft lbs on his TLs for many years, and says it has reduced problems for him. I don't feel comfortable with 75 ft lbs.

But vehicles with steel wheels are another matter. I torque the steel wheels on my wife's trucks to 125 ft lbs.

 

In your pix It doesnt look like you have the spacers on?The reat looks tucked in still i nthe pix? I was looking at some 15MM spacers all around but still not sure if I want to deal with it.I may just buy deep concave wheels in the spring.

 

actually that one rear tire on that side i didnt have on....cuz i was missing 2 bolts... but i took them all off monday cuz of the problems...if u look at the other side u can see the difference cuz the tires are more flush with the fenders as opposed to the one rear side you was talkin about!

 

This is why people just need to get wheels with the correct offsets/widths or at least close to instead of having to run huge spacers.

 

my wheels are stock...offset i was going for was staggered rear and flush panels...

 

Sending PM, have some questions..

 

that's strange, adding spacers in addition with longer studs should be safe.

I have ran 3-5mm spacers with original studs with no problems on my previous cars. I have also ran 25-30mm spacer adapters with zero problems as well (with my previous cars).

but usually the best way to get the wheels out for the more aggressive look is to get the right wheels with the right lower offset and the right wheel width combo.

20x9 +40 and 20x10 +40 range is nice sweet spot for a35 max.

 

I agree with your reply but for me I just want the stocks to look flush when they are on for the winter.The aftermarkets will indeed be running the right combo this spring.But for now I want t ofind myself the best spacer to use.
anyone care to chime in on what spacer brand they use and MM? I wanted to go 15mm in front and 20mm in rear but I fear it will rub once the alignment is done.The eibachs are treating me well so far since its not much of a drop but the extra 70lbs in trunk from sub box adds to it a bit.

 

I've thought about doing spacers myself for the stock 18's. H&R supposedly have the best spacers out there, however they do have two different types you can use. I wouldn't go any bigger than 15mm front and rear personally. May end up causing more wear on the hub and bearings with anything bigger.

I agree with you that when I do summer wheels, they'll already have the right offset built in so everything is flush.

 

I like how josh from stillen stays on top of bad post reviews...appreciate the support...hes looking into it...lets see what he says...

 

PM'd with additional questions, we're not all about "bad post reviews", but we do get PM's when someone has trouble, as well as good things to say, but we're always interested in addressing any potential issues from products we carry from other manufacturers, such as H&R, as this would be the first major issue we've had from their spacers, and would like to confirm everything, and find out what is up.

 

Still working on getting information regarding these spacers.. but points so far:

- Didn't order directly from us, purchased them from someone who may have ordered from us, although in searching through that customers orders, doesn't seem to match

- Don't have part numbers from what's installed, no original packaging (wouldn't necessarily expect that, I don't keep that stuff either), trying to determine the part numbers

- H&R doesn't specifically list an application for the 09+ Maxima, although the spacers from other models such as the 350Z and 370Z may work fine, but don't offer a 30mm rear in any Nissan application.

- Trying to determine whether they are front and rear DRS style (extended studs) or rears may be DRM (bolt-on) to confirm the failure. Again with Nissan applications anything beyond a 20mm isn't offered in a DRM application.

Appreciate Ob4Real looking into the specifics and contacting the original owner so we can determine what's going on.

 

Sounds like the wrong spacers were poorly installed...and the OP blames the equipment.

 

listen up...i got all the equipment in the original boxes...from stillen...i bought the product from a very nice guy off this website...so clearly...we all know stillen doesnt want problems...but lets not blame this on anyone until we find the problem... but realisticly speaking...no one wants to take the blame...lets not act like there arent bad products out there!!

 

This could get interesting...lol

How much did you pay for them? How is Josh saying that you didnt have the original box then?

 

i bought the whole stillen package from my dude very cheap...he said he paid almost 200$ a pair....josh said he sees the order but not specifically the spacers...soooo .... lets see...

 

So basically you DIDNT buy these directly from Stillen....

The only company that ever wanted to deal with me after i purchased a product from them THOUGH ANOTHER person (used might i add) was Deautchwerks...Great customer support, but i called them with the expectation that they would tell me too bad so sad but they offered to test the injectors for free! Ended up finding out there was nothing wrong with them it was just my stupidity with tuning with the EU parameter settings lol..

 

Folks, lets NOT sling mud here. Obviously the OP and Stillen folks are in contact. (Which is the most important thing)

All I can say is how many other manufacturers would have stopped on this thread and done any investigation? I know Nissan never stopped by here to comment when I was having my "rocking chair" issue.

 

^ i agree...Just seems like its alot of missinformation...

 

Actually, there are NO products out there!
NO H&R products are listed on the Stillen website for '09 Max.

 

On the H&R website there isn't a listing for 09' Max, only up to 08', and only up to 25mm.

 

Uh oh..

 

I had run H&R spacers and used the longer studs they provided on multiple vehicles and never had issues.

But this thread was an interesting read.

 

well...i gave them the OP's info...and he said he pulled up the info but dont see the spacer purchase...???...i spoke with the OP on a regular basis....says he spoke with a specific salesman during the whole purchase...obviously whatever the problem is, isnt with the transaction we made wether he bought it or i did...especially if it was all in factory boxes "still in bubble rap and plastic"...cmon guys...its really whatever...i took them off and im not putting them back on...he said she said and finger pointing...is really pointless...

 

Well, the point is that Stillen doesn't sell, nor does H&R make, 30mm spacers for your application.

As for why all the studs stripped, well, there's only one answer for that.
Over torqued.

 

stillen does sell 30mm spacers...i should know...I HAD THEM PUT ON THE CAR...I CAN READ...dont believe me...call and ask if they do!

 

Speaking with the OP...Hes telling me Josh...you must be looking at the wrong computer because hes speaking with Kenny from sports car division Ext. 185 who brought up the "whole" order INCLUDING FRONT AND REAR SPACERS...and he still got the reciepts....so figure out whatever problems you wanna think u correcting...i know what i bought and what i put on!!!

 

and thanx for putting me on blast and tryna make me look stupid like i dont know what i bought...from what i hear this isnt the first time a Stillen rep tried some sh@! like this before!!

 

No need to get amp'd.. just working with you to get the facts, not putting you "on blast".

There is one order to the customer you mentioned buying from, and that's for the following:

HR2065662 - H&R 10mm DRS Spacers
HR3065662 - H&R 15mm DRS Spacers

So either you've installed these spacers, (10mm front and 15mm rear), or perhaps this guy sold you a different brand (or purchased somewhere other than from us) in a 30mm size for the rear.

As I've asked several times via PM, just take a look at the spacers, ensure the H&R logo is etched in the side, and I believe the part numbers are also cut into the spacer. Should take 2 seconds..

As for damage to the studs, it can happen with overtorquing the wheels, as others have mentioned. In regards to it not happening with factory studs, I had 4 out of 5 lugs shear off on my G35 coupe because of a random tire shop I let touch my car, and that was Infiniti studs. Sucks, but it can happen. I'm not aware of many if any at all problems with H&R.. the only return I've seen was 2 studs in a batch didn't finish the threads to the edge of the bolt, a minor (yet pain in the *** result) manufacturing flaw from wherever in Germany these studs are coming from. And that's with hundreds of sets being sold and installed.

Just trying to help, you came to the forum seemingly looking for answers..

 

Link?

 

Josh...the OP clearly said he spoke to adam...dont know why you cant find the order...but its really no never mind....doesnt matter...its obviously stillen sells 30mm spacers for the rear max even if they dont advertise it...they probably said it would work and guess what ... it didnt...maybe it was over torqued...maybe...but if factory studs wont strip and stillen is going to sell aftermarket studs for 200$ a pair , i would hope with a reputible name like "stillen"....those wouldnt strip either...but i guess i didnt notice the fine print on the box that said after a few weeks of being applied will strip if over torqued...rediculous!! thanx for the help...view my picture comment and its a message from the OP to Josh in regaurds to the spacers....

 

What are the part numbers?