8th gen maxima?
8th gen maxima?
From Edmunds Inside Line:
Based on past experience with Nissan this seems like a very accurate statement.
Nissan Maxima
2012 Nissan Maxima: Last redesigned in 2009, the Maxima should be ready for a midcycle refresh in 2012. We don't expect many changes to the exterior sheet metal, but Nissan may add some updates to the drivetrain in an attempt to squeeze some additional mileage out of its big sedan. A diesel version had been planned, but was cancelled when it became clear that meeting U.S. emissions requirements was going to be too difficult.
2012 Nissan Maxima: Last redesigned in 2009, the Maxima should be ready for a midcycle refresh in 2012. We don't expect many changes to the exterior sheet metal, but Nissan may add some updates to the drivetrain in an attempt to squeeze some additional mileage out of its big sedan. A diesel version had been planned, but was cancelled when it became clear that meeting U.S. emissions requirements was going to be too difficult.
The answer to this question is pretty much a crap shoot. Nissan has run 4 - 6 year model cycles. The 3rd gen stuck around for 6 model years. However, the 5th gens were only around for 4 years. My guess is that we will see the 8th gen arrive as a 2014 model in the middle of 2013.
There is also the possibility that Nissan will ride the 7th gen out through 2014 with the 8th gen arriving in 2015. I see two factors that could make this happen. First, the economy has not made a total recovery as of yet. People who are buying cars are focusing on the economy models in order to save money. Flagship sedans are not getting a lot of attention these days.
The other factor I see that may prolong the life of the current generation has actually been created by Nissan itself. With each successive model year, Nissan has made tweaks to the Maxima's options such as the infotainment system, colors, wheels, and other accents. The trained eye can easily distinguish between a '09, '10, or '11 Maxima SV with the Sport + Tech package. These constant changes may just be an effort to keep the 7th gen Maxima fresh enough to stick around for 6 model years.
There is also the possibility that Nissan will ride the 7th gen out through 2014 with the 8th gen arriving in 2015. I see two factors that could make this happen. First, the economy has not made a total recovery as of yet. People who are buying cars are focusing on the economy models in order to save money. Flagship sedans are not getting a lot of attention these days.
The other factor I see that may prolong the life of the current generation has actually been created by Nissan itself. With each successive model year, Nissan has made tweaks to the Maxima's options such as the infotainment system, colors, wheels, and other accents. The trained eye can easily distinguish between a '09, '10, or '11 Maxima SV with the Sport + Tech package. These constant changes may just be an effort to keep the 7th gen Maxima fresh enough to stick around for 6 model years.
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I think we might see an Altima/Maxima replacement if Renault/Nissan gives the go ahead to build the Allure they've been touting, the car looks nice and seeing that it would slotted in between the two cars then Nissan may be thinking then why not just replace both with this.
Supposedly the car is big, more fuel efficient (one of the main points to argue for the replacement of both cars) and it fulfills the role in which both cars are almost two close in fulfilling to justify keeping both as part of Nissan's line-up.
Supposedly the car is big, more fuel efficient (one of the main points to argue for the replacement of both cars) and it fulfills the role in which both cars are almost two close in fulfilling to justify keeping both as part of Nissan's line-up.
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Some very good responses here. Maybe a little early for an 8th gen thread, but I think many here are already letting their minds wander to what the 8th gen might bring. I know I am.
Eighteen months ago, I thought the '11 might be the midcycle, and the '13 the 8th gen. That would be in keeping with the pattern of the 1st, 2nd and 5th gens.
But as the recession deepened, and sales of the '09 really sagged for the first six months after it came out, it became more likely Nissan would ride the 8th gen until the '14 model. If we recall, Nissan was hurting for cash around that time.
More specifically, around January of 2010, sales of the 7th gen Maxima began to pick up briskly, and Nissan realized its unusual, but aggressive styling was beginning to take hold. When Nissan combined that improvement in sales with the fact the economy was not improving, I'm sure they made the decision to postpone the midcycle to the '12 model arriving in spring/summer of '11, with the 8th gen arriving in spring of '13 as the '14 model year.
If Nissan does release the 7 1/2 gen late this spring or early summer, it would not be for one year, so we would then know the 8th gen cannot arrive before spring of '13 as the '14 model year. I personally think this will be what happens, but these are not normal times, and Nissan has lots of different ways they can go.
As for the Allure, it will not replace both the Altima and the Maxima. The Altima and Maxima are different cars aimed at totally opposite target audiences. The Altima and Maxima names are well-established, well-known, respected, and already have built-in fan bases. Nissan will not want to give up these names.
Altimas list in price from around $20K to around $30K, with base models available for as little as $16,900, and compete with Camry and Accord. It MUST stay in this price range in order to compete in its class. Many rating services rate the Altima as the best family sedan in its class. Most Altima buyers are not concerned that there will be tons of Altimas everywhere they go, because they are more interested in good, practical, reliable transportation than in individuality. My wife likes the Altima.
Maximas list in price from around $30K to around $40K, and most dealers want almost $25K for the base model. Maxima is Nissan's self-proclaimed flagship. Maxima buyers are individualists who want more than a 'people mover.' They care about style and performance. Maxima fans do not like driving a vehicle that can be found in every row of every parking lot in the country. They consider their wheels to be somewhat a reflection of themselves. I love my Maxima.
So far, I have heard nothing about what Nissan plans for the 2014 8th gen Maxima. I would be surprised if Nissan has even finalized anything yet for the 8th gen. The sluggish economy, suddenly increasing price of gas, looming government requirements for very high fleet fuel efficiency, etc, will mean Nissan must be very careful in planning the 8th gen Maxima. I don't think we will hear much info about the 8th gen for at least another eighteen months; maybe longer.
Eighteen months ago, I thought the '11 might be the midcycle, and the '13 the 8th gen. That would be in keeping with the pattern of the 1st, 2nd and 5th gens.
But as the recession deepened, and sales of the '09 really sagged for the first six months after it came out, it became more likely Nissan would ride the 8th gen until the '14 model. If we recall, Nissan was hurting for cash around that time.
More specifically, around January of 2010, sales of the 7th gen Maxima began to pick up briskly, and Nissan realized its unusual, but aggressive styling was beginning to take hold. When Nissan combined that improvement in sales with the fact the economy was not improving, I'm sure they made the decision to postpone the midcycle to the '12 model arriving in spring/summer of '11, with the 8th gen arriving in spring of '13 as the '14 model year.
If Nissan does release the 7 1/2 gen late this spring or early summer, it would not be for one year, so we would then know the 8th gen cannot arrive before spring of '13 as the '14 model year. I personally think this will be what happens, but these are not normal times, and Nissan has lots of different ways they can go.
As for the Allure, it will not replace both the Altima and the Maxima. The Altima and Maxima are different cars aimed at totally opposite target audiences. The Altima and Maxima names are well-established, well-known, respected, and already have built-in fan bases. Nissan will not want to give up these names.
Altimas list in price from around $20K to around $30K, with base models available for as little as $16,900, and compete with Camry and Accord. It MUST stay in this price range in order to compete in its class. Many rating services rate the Altima as the best family sedan in its class. Most Altima buyers are not concerned that there will be tons of Altimas everywhere they go, because they are more interested in good, practical, reliable transportation than in individuality. My wife likes the Altima.
Maximas list in price from around $30K to around $40K, and most dealers want almost $25K for the base model. Maxima is Nissan's self-proclaimed flagship. Maxima buyers are individualists who want more than a 'people mover.' They care about style and performance. Maxima fans do not like driving a vehicle that can be found in every row of every parking lot in the country. They consider their wheels to be somewhat a reflection of themselves. I love my Maxima.
So far, I have heard nothing about what Nissan plans for the 2014 8th gen Maxima. I would be surprised if Nissan has even finalized anything yet for the 8th gen. The sluggish economy, suddenly increasing price of gas, looming government requirements for very high fleet fuel efficiency, etc, will mean Nissan must be very careful in planning the 8th gen Maxima. I don't think we will hear much info about the 8th gen for at least another eighteen months; maybe longer.
Some very good responses here. Maybe a little early for an 8th gen thread, but I think many here are already letting their minds wander to what the 8th gen might bring. I know I am.
Eighteen months ago, I thought the '11 might be the midcycle, and the '13 the 8th gen. That would be in keeping with the pattern of the 1st, 2nd and 5th gens.
But as the recession deepened, and sales of the '09 really sagged for the first six months after it came out, it became more likely Nissan would ride the 8th gen until the '14 model. If we recall, Nissan was hurting for cash around that time.
More specifically, around January of 2010, sales of the 7th gen Maxima began to pick up briskly, and Nissan realized its unusual, but aggressive styling was beginning to take hold. When Nissan combined that improvement in sales with the fact the economy was not improving, I'm sure they made the decision to postpone the midcycle to the '12 model arriving in spring/summer of '11, with the 8th gen arriving in spring of '13 as the '14 model year.
If Nissan does release the 7 1/2 gen late this spring or early summer, it would not be for one year, so we would then know the 8th gen cannot arrive before spring of '13 as the '14 model year. I personally think this will be what happens, but these are not normal times, and Nissan has lots of different ways they can go.
As for the Allure, it will not replace both the Altima and the Maxima. The Altima and Maxima are different cars aimed at totally opposite target audiences. The Altima and Maxima names are well-established, well-known, respected, and already have built-in fan bases. Nissan will not want to give up these names.
Altimas list in price from around $20K to around $30K, with base models available for as little as $16,900, and compete with Camry and Accord. It MUST stay in this price range in order to compete in its class. Many rating services rate the Altima as the best family sedan in its class. Most Altima buyers are not concerned that there will be tons of Altimas everywhere they go, because they are more interested in good, practical, reliable transportation than in individuality. My wife likes the Altima.
Maximas list in price from around $30K to around $40K, and most dealers want almost $25K for the base model. Maxima is Nissan's self-proclaimed flagship. Maxima buyers are individualists who want more than a 'people mover.' They care about style and performance. Maxima fans do not like driving a vehicle that can be found in every row of every parking lot in the country. They consider their wheels to be somewhat a reflection of themselves. I love my Maxima.
So far, I have heard nothing about what Nissan plans for the 2014 8th gen Maxima. I would be surprised if Nissan has even finalized anything yet for the 8th gen. The sluggish economy, suddenly increasing price of gas, looming government requirements for very high fleet fuel efficiency, etc, will mean Nissan must be very careful in planning the 8th gen Maxima. I don't think we will hear much info about the 8th gen for at least another eighteen months; maybe longer.
Eighteen months ago, I thought the '11 might be the midcycle, and the '13 the 8th gen. That would be in keeping with the pattern of the 1st, 2nd and 5th gens.
But as the recession deepened, and sales of the '09 really sagged for the first six months after it came out, it became more likely Nissan would ride the 8th gen until the '14 model. If we recall, Nissan was hurting for cash around that time.
More specifically, around January of 2010, sales of the 7th gen Maxima began to pick up briskly, and Nissan realized its unusual, but aggressive styling was beginning to take hold. When Nissan combined that improvement in sales with the fact the economy was not improving, I'm sure they made the decision to postpone the midcycle to the '12 model arriving in spring/summer of '11, with the 8th gen arriving in spring of '13 as the '14 model year.
If Nissan does release the 7 1/2 gen late this spring or early summer, it would not be for one year, so we would then know the 8th gen cannot arrive before spring of '13 as the '14 model year. I personally think this will be what happens, but these are not normal times, and Nissan has lots of different ways they can go.
As for the Allure, it will not replace both the Altima and the Maxima. The Altima and Maxima are different cars aimed at totally opposite target audiences. The Altima and Maxima names are well-established, well-known, respected, and already have built-in fan bases. Nissan will not want to give up these names.
Altimas list in price from around $20K to around $30K, with base models available for as little as $16,900, and compete with Camry and Accord. It MUST stay in this price range in order to compete in its class. Many rating services rate the Altima as the best family sedan in its class. Most Altima buyers are not concerned that there will be tons of Altimas everywhere they go, because they are more interested in good, practical, reliable transportation than in individuality. My wife likes the Altima.
Maximas list in price from around $30K to around $40K, and most dealers want almost $25K for the base model. Maxima is Nissan's self-proclaimed flagship. Maxima buyers are individualists who want more than a 'people mover.' They care about style and performance. Maxima fans do not like driving a vehicle that can be found in every row of every parking lot in the country. They consider their wheels to be somewhat a reflection of themselves. I love my Maxima.
So far, I have heard nothing about what Nissan plans for the 2014 8th gen Maxima. I would be surprised if Nissan has even finalized anything yet for the 8th gen. The sluggish economy, suddenly increasing price of gas, looming government requirements for very high fleet fuel efficiency, etc, will mean Nissan must be very careful in planning the 8th gen Maxima. I don't think we will hear much info about the 8th gen for at least another eighteen months; maybe longer.
Last edited by MONTE 01&97 SE; Feb 15, 2011 at 09:57 PM.
a diesel would be cool, even in 35k range it just might sell as people are actually buying turbo diesel vw jetta's for 25k. unfreaking believable.
anyways, diesel for max or nothing because a hybrid just won't have that juice of power that the max has now.
anyways, diesel for max or nothing because a hybrid just won't have that juice of power that the max has now.
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Whatever gives better gas milage I am down with. I am even willing to lower my power; like 260 or so for better miles, really! I have never had a car that took 55 dollars to fill up! That really hurts!
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You will have to beat me to the dealer if you want a diesel Maxima. I will be standing at the back of the auto carrier as the first one is being unloaded, sales receipt already in hand. I was very disappointed when the '10 diesel Maxima was cancelled.
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Nissan Reps should read this board a turbo diesel is the way to go, also throwing in the options of a manual trans/6spd and/or AWD would definitely boost sales.
Hey Nissan, can u give us a Max Coupe with these options:
Turbo diesel 3.7 l V6
AWD
6SPD Manual or 7spd Auto
BAM, an instant classic especially if it has over 380HP/350TQ.
Leave me alone, a man can dream, can't he. Lol
Hey Nissan, can u give us a Max Coupe with these options:
Turbo diesel 3.7 l V6
AWD
6SPD Manual or 7spd Auto
BAM, an instant classic especially if it has over 380HP/350TQ.
Leave me alone, a man can dream, can't he. Lol
Meh. No regrets.
I know that I recognize the words, but it just doesn't make sense when you put them all together.
The Maxima is what it is, which is a fine, well-designed car for spirited, but comfortable, daily driving.
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No, just a low mileage, daily driver. I enjoy driving the car hard, but not to the point of abusing it. Besides, there are a lot more appropriate cars to track with, both in a straight line or on a course. A whole lot more.
The Maxima is what it is, which is a fine, well-designed car for spirited, but comfortable, daily driving.
The Maxima is what it is, which is a fine, well-designed car for spirited, but comfortable, daily driving.
And if a truly amazing 8th Gen Maxima comes out in 2013 or 2014, with a manual transmission, then I'll reset priorities. But I'm not holding my breath.
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I would say the Allure is a far throw from the 8th Gen Max. My best guess is we will not see a new model until the 2014 model year, maybe 2015. These cars are way too ahead of their time compared to others in the same price range to change is earlier than that. I also think by this time the styling of the Allure will seem a little wack.
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I would say the Allure is a far throw from the 8th Gen Max. My best guess is we will not see a new model until the 2014 model year, maybe 2015. These cars are way too ahead of their time compared to others in the same price range to change is earlier than that. I also think by this time the styling of the Allure will seem a little wack.
I think if Nissan goes away from the sexy styling the Maxima currently has then they'll see a massive decline in sales.
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