I'm sure a lot of you saw this when you were on yahoo but thought I'd share the good news.

http://autos.yahoo.com/news/america-...oved-cars.html

We made the list!!

(sorry if this is a repost)

 

had a challenger, now a max. i must have good taste in cars.

 

lol midsize sporty...wtf challenger and camaro...those are huge tanks...

 

If it was for me to choose between challenger and camore, I would take the challenger! Tired of Camaro's.

 

These surveys are as useful as screen doors on submarines. I don't care if it's jd powers.

 

Are you just here to troll?

You've given some good insight and have been semi un-biased. We get it, or at least I know and we should all know, the G37 > any Gen Maxima in every way, that's why it's Infiniti, a Coupe and RWD, but do you need to stoke the fire?

Who cares what car has more interior volume ( as was seen brought to your attn, you don't care, neither do I), power(G37 has a lot more, of course we care), etc, we buy what we can afford and compromise that with meets our needs/wants as consumers.

 

200 lbs heavier than a Max, and the same length.

 

This has nothing to do with the maxima and everything to do with the survey. a challenger over the maxima? american made big engine fall apart junk car over a upscale well put together Japanese sedan. They are not in the same ball park. Unless you consider the commonality of tires, steering wheel, and brakes.

 

That's why I'll take a 5.0 Mustang

 

A35 <3

 

Hm that is weird. G37 didn't make top 3 on any list...hmm

 

Right, but it made it to the top of my short list. I also noticed the 3 series was not number one, and the is350 didn't make the list. Also didn't see any porsches on the list.

 

My brother has an 08 300C 5.7, its by no means falling apart

 

Maxima lost to the Ford Tauras also.

 

Can all you douches please stop bugging G37guy01, he isnt here to troll and start trouble hes being civilized. God dammit. Ive been on Myg37.com and post there often and not ONCE has anyone knocked me for owning a Maxima and not a G. This guys been here all of ten minutes and u guys are acting like grade schoolers. Funny thing is everyone percieves G owners to be douchebags, when in reality, its us Maxima owners acting like that right now.

 

how did the maxima lose to the ford taurus ._.

 

Different factors come into play when looking at the results. Obviously we know what they are but it looks like I shouldn't have created a thread on this. I thought it was better than "Spotted: 7th Gen in a movie scene" threads.

 

I don't know about the 300c, but I took a look at aol autos who publishes the jd powers initial quality surveys for the challenger, another survey I can live without, the challenger got a lot of 2/5 ratings, except in the performance arena.

Didn't look at the Taurus, but not surprisingly the Maxima and G37 faired much better.

 

I appreciate that, I had 8 years of Nissan ownership and 5 years of Maxima. 1994 for 2 years, 1996 for 3 years. The 1994 was sexy for it's day. The 1996, not so much. I think Nissan lost its way for years, but finally got it back with the a35.

I'm glad to be back in the Nissan fold. I didn't test drive the A35 because I was tired of test driving and knew I wanted AWD. I was all set to buy the ES350, when at the last minute I decided to visit Ray Catena and test out the G37x.

The G37x is not a cross between a Bugatti and a Tahoe. In it's space, it's a reasonably equipped entry level luxo sedan with a hint of performance and a modicum of comfortable room. Infiniti is directly responsible for BMW upping the performance on it's vehicles.

I make no pretenses about what the car is and isn't.

At the end of day, you Maxima owners are passionate about your cars and you should be. It's a darn fine automobile for those looking for exactly what it offers.

Whatever vehicle you drive it should put a smile on your face when you turn the key or push the button.

 

Well Maxima has the most loyal following behind any Nissan product behind Z, worked in Nissan corporate for 12 yrs was privy to all of that info. It has tons and tons of repeat buyers. Bottom line is both G35/7 and Max are great cars and are some of the sporty alternatives in there segment. Some prefer RWD some FWD etc etc, they are both pretty much in the same price bracket so most that can afford X can afford Y its just a matter of prefence! Enjoy your rides guys!

 

The LX platform which includes the 300, Charger and Challenger has done pretty well, but is broken down into 2 categories, V8 and V6 if you want to get technical, the V6 models are OK, not good, not bad, that is all I can say, but obviously the V6 Challenger with 250hp could not compete with itself, let alone the 300hp Mustang and Camaro, now that the Challenger has the 3.6L 300hp V6 to compete with the other 2 it should be a more fair fight.

 

i wouldnt even call it fair. i consider the camaro and mustang to be sports cars. the challenger is more of a muscle car. performs well in a straight line but not soo well on the track. isnt the challenger the only one of the 3 with a chassis based on a sedan?

 

Yes sir its the only one based on a "large" car chassis. Even with the 305 hp it will not be that impressive with all of that weight and that horrible 5spd auto tranny that holds that car and the 300/Charger series back, when they get the 8spd auto next year it will help them out alot. Heck the sad thing is the current V6 Stang is just about as fast as the Hemi V8 375 hp R/T Challenger.

 

The Mustangs seem to be about 500lbs lighter though. So for the same hp ratings, the Mustang should still perform better

 

My original response to you was more about money for what you get, I would never advise anyone to buy a V6 Challenger, I like the Challenger but clearly the other 2 outrank it it many more ways, and it is a 2 door 300 or Charger

I don't know where Challenger sales sit, but the Chrysler has always been about the big engine, when the Challenger was 1st released you could get only an SRT8, then the 5.7 came, and for some reason, bean counters probably wanted the V6 to fill in some lower end sales to compete with the other 2 Domestics, I really don't think it's a Mustang or Challenger competitior.

The V6 Mustang is what it should have been 10+ years ago, but I don't like what Im reading about the China made trans that is shattering like glass on customers, hence why Im still not a Ford fan

The 5.0 Mustang vs BMW M3 has been a big topic on several other forums I go to, lurk at, my buddy thinks it's a conspiracy theory that the Mustang is so close in performance specs, it's all good, I could see myself in a 5.0 it would be hard not to choose the SRT8 Grand Cherokee

 

I agree as the V8 Stang and Maro are Pony/Muscle cars (decent handling, good straightline) and the Challenger R/T is straight Muscle car (not so good handling good straightline accel as they were then and now). Problem is way back in the day the Challenger had other full muscle cars to compete with (442, GTO etc etc), now fast forward to today. There aren't any more cars in that category remaining but the Challenger as the rest of them are long dead (SS Monte Carlo, Regal Grand National etc etc), so the closest things left are the Stang and Maro. So for marketing purposes thats its competitors....but we all know that the driving experience is not near the same!

 

Agreed. But I guess they have to make the car appeal to a wide range of people (financially). On the lot, I had a choice between a base 5.7 or a fully equipped 3.5. The 3.5 was about $2k cheaper if I remember correctly. Took me about 5 seconds to decide.

 

My boy has an R/T challenger with CAI, SLP exhaust, Tune and an upgraded throttle body, thing sounds so god damn demonic. Hes easily over 400 horses with a few bolt on's. I can honestly say I would give up my Max for his setup.

 

^^^^ I find that hard to believe. I would think one of the problems with those cars is between December and March, which is why I wanted AWD.

Friend has a Challenger (not 2011) with the BIG engine. He only drives it 2.5 seasons out of the year.

 

That engine is rumored to be underrated. Probably can keep up with an SRT with those mods.

 

Probably could, Ive seen the thing in action, although he did get pulled pretty good by my Boy's EVO which also has some work done to it.

 

Completely forgot about those cars, sadly they would still be here if the Manufactures just built what they were know best for and stopped trying to rebadge for a easy profit, back on topic of the Challenger, I have watched enough youtube videos, especially the 2012 392 SRT8 to know that the Challenger can be made a worthy opponent of the Mustang and Maro < that is how thy say it here in Georgia but most want the cars as is off the dealer lot, maybe add intake and exhaust, actually here in GA exhaust is a must have add on.

The Challenger forums are full of people trying to make their 3.5 perform like the 5.7

My brother has a 300C 5.7 AWD, with intake, exhaust, and tune, the car sounds amazing, and performs like a giant soft 3Series, I don't really drive it