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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 11:05 PM
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HID headlight vs Halogen headlight

I have a question regarding the actual headlight assemblies themselves. I've been browsing the internet trying to find replacement headlights for my 2012 Maxima SV Premium that came with factory HIDs. I want to find a cheap pair just to hold me over while I send mines out to get some work done. I keep running into the same problem, the Halogen type headlights do not "FIT" the HID type headlight and I was wondering if anyone knew why? Apparently the halogen type can work with an aftermarket HID system but not the system that comes from the factory...
Old Jan 11, 2013 | 11:20 PM
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Reason you can't use halogen on your model is the stock harness is only for hid bulbs. I mean you could manually wire them... but those stock harnesses are not for any halogen bulb. Hope that helps.


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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by doberman16
Reason you can't use halogen on your model is the stock harness is only for hid bulbs. I mean you could manually wire them... but those stock harnesses are not for any halogen bulb. Hope that helps.


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So if I bought a pair of halogen headlights I would still be able to use my HID bulbs and HID system? It doesn't have anything to do with a physical difference in the headlight casing itself? Thanks for all the info!
Old Jan 11, 2013 | 11:48 PM
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The casing should be the same except the bulb part. In other words your stock bulb will not fit into a halogen casing. I mean, the bulb itself will, but it won't turn. and lock into place. Hopefully I'm making sense... its very late lol.


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Old Jan 12, 2013 | 03:30 AM
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The hid headlight uses the d2s bulbs. The halogen uses the h11 bulb. If you want to switch to a halogen headlight you would have to buy a h11 hid bulb. You can reuse the oem ballasts. When you get your hid headlights back you can put the oem d2s back in. Hope it helps.
Old Jan 12, 2013 | 05:01 AM
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if you got halogen lights for your OEM HID-equipped car you can very very simply tap the positive/negative wires of your new HID kit into the positive/negative wires of your OEM low beam wires. if it buzzes then buy a relay kit. the only thing stopping you is the factory plug wont fit in your headlight; electricity however is still electricity.
Old Jan 12, 2013 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Ghozt
if you got halogen lights for your OEM HID-equipped car you can very very simply tap the positive/negative wires of your new HID kit into the positive/negative wires of your OEM low beam wires. if it buzzes then buy a relay kit. the only thing stopping you is the factory plug wont fit in your headlight; electricity however is still electricity.
So just to sum up, the halogen headlight uses the H11 bulb as opposed to the D2S. The OEM HID system plug won't fit an H11 bulb so I would need different wires to connect to the OEM ballast in order to make it work with the H11 bulb?

Sorry for all the questions, I really want to make sure I have everything clear in order to find the most cost effective way to mod my headlights. Thank you all for the help!
Old Jan 12, 2013 | 08:50 AM
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It is actually the halogen housing that will not work with the oem d2s bulb as the place it twists in the housing is different.

All you will purchase to make the halogen housing work in ur car is the h11 hid bulb which will usually come with the wires. And then all you do is connect the h11 hid bulbs with the oem ballasts.
Old Jan 12, 2013 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by funnyman82
It is actually the halogen housing that will not work with the oem d2s bulb as the place it twists in the housing is different.

All you will purchase to make the halogen housing work in ur car is the h11 hid bulb which will usually come with the wires. And then all you do is connect the h11 hid bulbs with the oem ballasts.
The connection of a H11 is not the same as a D2S bulb. The igniter of the D2S will not plug in into H11 bulb. Oem hids are different than aftermarket PNP kits.
Old Jan 12, 2013 | 11:21 AM
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So just to sum up, the halogen headlight uses the H11 bulb as opposed to the D2S. The OEM HID system plug won't fit an H11 bulb so I would need different wires to connect to the OEM ballast in order to make it work with the H11 bulb?

Sorry for all the questions, I really want to make sure I have everything clear in order to find the most cost effective way to mod my headlights. Thank you all for the help!
Correct. I sold a set of halogen-style headlights to a guy who owns a Maxima that came with stock HIDs. You simply splice into the pos/neg wires for your low beam into an H11 HID kit because those are the only bulbs that will plug into the halogen housing without modification. You can use "tap-in connectors" if you don't want to mangle your OEM wires.
Old Jan 12, 2013 | 02:49 PM
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I'm glad you guys had all the answers I needed! I was going through the Internet for hours to find things out but nothing I found really answered my questions until now.

I plan on buying a pair of headlights that come with black housing built in but the problem was that they are made for the halogen headlights only. I'm not great with cars personally so to avoid messing anything up I guess I'll just buy an HID kit for H11 and take out the OEM HID system (that should work right?).

I want to send these headlights out to get my high beams retrofitted with projectors and have halos installed as well. That's the plan anyway, lets see if it happens lol.

Again, thanks for all the help everybody, really appreciate it!
Old Jan 17, 2013 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Ghozt
Correct. I sold a set of halogen-style headlights to a guy who owns a Maxima that came with stock HIDs. You simply splice into the pos/neg wires for your low beam into an H11 HID kit because those are the only bulbs that will plug into the halogen housing without modification. You can use "tap-in connectors" if you don't want to mangle your OEM wires.
Is it possible to buy a HID relay that fits H11 bulbs and connect to the OEM ballast? Or the relay has nothing to do with the bulb connecting to the ballast?
Old Jan 17, 2013 | 06:45 PM
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Is it possible to buy a HID relay that fits H11 bulbs and connect to the OEM ballast? Or the relay has nothing to do with the bulb connecting to the ballast?
if you break it down these wire harnesses (not the relay specifically, but the wiring) can always be spliced, the harness makes it plug and play so its easy. the set i sold another guy he could buy an H11 relay for if he needs to for any reason and wire it directly to the battery. so far though he has an H11 HID kit spliced into his OEM HID low beam wires and he's been fine
Old Nov 13, 2013 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Ghozt
Correct. I sold a set of halogen-style headlights to a guy who owns a Maxima that came with stock HIDs. You simply splice into the pos/neg wires for your low beam into an H11 HID kit because those are the only bulbs that will plug into the halogen housing without modification. You can use "tap-in connectors" if you don't want to mangle your OEM wires.
This statement is either incorrect or it's missing info. I have OEM HID headlamps on my car. I would like to install new Halogen headlamps. There is no argument that the bulbs are not interchangeable. However, here's the problem: the stock ballast has 3 wires running from it to the input for the stock D2S bulb. Now, even if you cut the bulb input off and splice the wires to your H11 bulbs, how do you know which one to connect? Here's an interesting thing; The plug for the stock HID ballast has 4 terminals (where it plugs into the cars' headlamp plug). One of them disappears inside the ballast, because only 3 come out in wire form to the D2S plug.

Now, I tested all four terminals in virtually every combination possible, while trying to wire up the H11's 2 wires, and I got absolutely nothing. The only way I can wire it up is directly into the headlight plug (on vehicle, not on stock balast). This means I have to use an aftermarket ballast.

I hope this isn't confusing. My whole point is that the stock ballast cannot be used with any other HID bulbs. Someone feel free to prove otherwise, and explain how you connected the 2 wires to the 4 terminal plug and retained the OEM ballast.
Old Nov 13, 2013 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Harmony
This statement is either incorrect or it's missing info. I have OEM HID headlamps on my car. I would like to install new Halogen headlamps. There is no argument that the bulbs are not interchangeable. However, here's the problem: the stock ballast has 3 wires running from it to the input for the stock D2S bulb. Now, even if you cut the bulb input off and splice the wires to your H11 bulbs, how do you know which one to connect? Here's an interesting thing; The plug for the stock HID ballast has 4 terminals (where it plugs into the cars' headlamp plug). One of them disappears inside the ballast, because only 3 come out in wire form to the D2S plug.

Now, I tested all four terminals in virtually every combination possible, while trying to wire up the H11's 2 wires, and I got absolutely nothing. The only way I can wire it up is directly into the headlight plug (on vehicle, not on stock balast). This means I have to use an aftermarket ballast.

I hope this isn't confusing. My whole point is that the stock ballast cannot be used with any other HID bulbs. Someone feel free to prove otherwise, and explain how you connected the 2 wires to the 4 terminal plug and retained the OEM ballast.
If he goes with an H11 HID bulb then he won't have to splice anything can keep using the OEM ballast. All he will have to do is purchase this and he can continue using the OEM setup.
http://www.theretrofitsource.com/pro...roducts_id=244
Old Nov 15, 2013 | 08:52 PM
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Which hid kit!?

I want to get hid 8k for my 2010 maxima sv.... What brands or websites do you think I should go to? I also want matching fog...hid or led? Thanks!
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