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Old 10-30-2014, 09:54 PM
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Rotate tires? 2014 Max

Hey all,
I have a 2014 Max which is a lease with the 19" upgraded rims.
Manual states to rotate tires every 5K miles.
Now, my thing is the rear tires UNrotated will last for a long time. Well, at least on my 02 Max with 17" wheels.
Here's what I'm getting at. If I rotate then I'll be wearing down all 4 tires then I'll be screwed and have to get tires at the end of my 3 year lease. Whereas if I just keep the front tires in the front, I'll only have to purchase 2 tires at end of lease. Now, like I said I'm going based on experience on my 02 max. I never rotated the rears to the front and for 3 years now I haven't had to buy rear tires. Only the front tires. But for all I know the 19" tires on this car could have a faster wear even in the rear.
What do you guys think? Rotate or don't rotate?
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Old 10-30-2014, 10:58 PM
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It's a lease do whatever is cheapest

During the lease inspection they may see the date on the tires and if the tires are very old you may get charged.
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I have over 40,000 on my 09 19" RS'As, never rotated the tires and all the tread is evenly worn. There is still over 70% of the tread left on all four.

Unless you are a real aggressive driver or plan on putting a lot of mileage on before the end lease I wouldn't worry about it.
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Old 10-31-2014, 09:27 AM
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should be able to monitor tread depth and if it looks even , dont rotate. if they wear then rotate. Rotating gets you greater wear out of your tires not less, so if they going to last this should help. you should be able to get over 36000 with decent driving habits, but so what is 1 set of tires. just by the cheapo ones from pep boys if they go out. My Leaf lease stated all tires had to be same brand /type, so keep that in mind.
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Old 10-31-2014, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by maxspeedcvt
should be able to monitor tread depth and if it looks even , dont rotate. if they wear then rotate. Rotating gets you greater wear out of your tires not less, so if they going to last this should help. you should be able to get over 36000 with decent driving habits, but so what is 1 set of tires. just by the cheapo ones from pep boys if they go out. My Leaf lease stated all tires had to be same brand /type, so keep that in mind.
On my 02 max. The fronts wear a lot faster than the rears. I don't rotate them because this way I only have to buy 1 pair not 2. The rear tire have 40K already and they're down to 7 or 8/32nds and it's been 3 years.

Tha'ts a good point about the same brand/type of tire. HOpe that's not the case here. Thanks for pointing that out.

Richard, wow that's good then. Hopefully I'll have the same luck.

Everyone else, thanks for your input.
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If they wear , really fast, you probably need to check the front end alignment. if its just that you burn out alot. well thats your money. but unless your going thru 2-3 sets of fronts compared to your rears .then all your doing is changing 2 tires more often than someone who changes 4 tires at a time. when you change the fronts to rear they slow the wear process and the rears catchup on the front. but yes if your front end is chewing out the inner or outer edges then you system is better but should fix the front end.
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Old 10-31-2014, 05:30 PM
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If they wear , really fast, you probably need to check the front end alignment. if its just that you burn out alot. well thats your money. but unless your going thru 2-3 sets of fronts compared to your rears .then all your doing is changing 2 tires more often than someone who changes 4 tires at a time. when you change the fronts to rear they slow the wear process and the rears catchup on the front. but yes if your front end is chewing out the inner or outer edges then you system is better but should fix the front end.
Actually last time I bought front tires was 3 years ago about 40K miles ago so I consider that not too bad. I def don't abuse them by burning out specially at high miles. I do tend to take turns a bit faster than I should, however they do wear down pretty evenly across the tread pattern considering such behavior. So I went and just bought 2 tires for the front at Mavis.
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Fyi... You get what you pay for when buying cheap tires. Including bad tire wear, poor traction, high road noise, and dangerous if you don't put the right speed rating on your car. I learned a long time ago, the only thing that touches the road is your tires so keep that in mind when buying maybe the most important consumable for your vehicle. And I'm off the soap box... Good luck and hope it works out for you.
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Old 10-31-2014, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BIGIRISHSTL
Fyi... You get what you pay for when buying cheap tires. Including bad tire wear, poor traction, high road noise, and dangerous if you don't put the right speed rating on your car. I learned a long time ago, the only thing that touches the road is your tires so keep that in mind when buying maybe the most important consumable for your vehicle. And I'm off the soap box... Good luck and hope it works out for you.
Oh no don't worry. The GENERALS that I get for the 02 maxima are pretty damn good and with the right Speed rating. Those tires aren't cheap by any means and don't have any of those qualities you mentioned. I don't consider 30 or 40K to be a fast wear, I don't know about everyone else here. If tires wore at 10K then I'd say all those things you described would apply here but not the case.
But thanks for your input, well see how the 2014 max does.

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Old 10-31-2014, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard66
I have over 40,000 on my 09 19" RS'As, never rotated the tires and all the tread is evenly worn. There is still over 70% of the tread left on all four.
That is extremely hard to believe. Just saying!
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How about rotating the tires every 5k, keeping the pressure correct, and you probably won't have to buy any tires at the end of your lease...
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Originally Posted by RCM78
How about rotating the tires every 5k, keeping the pressure correct, and you probably won't have to buy any tires at the end of your lease...

probably wishful thinking with factory tires. I have never gotten more than 30,000 miles out of any tire. I have not run Michelin so its possible but I cannot see 36,000 + on the RSA unless, its cold climate and very short drives. hence tires stays cold and harder longer = less wear. Here in TX it,s hot and I tend to run high performance tires with very low Wear ratings .
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Originally Posted by maxspeedcvt
probably wishful thinking with factory tires. I have never gotten more than 30,000 miles out of any tire. I have not run Michelin so its possible but I cannot see 36,000 + on the RSA unless, its cold climate and very short drives. hence tires stays cold and harder longer = less wear. Here in TX it,s hot and I tend to run high performance tires with very low Wear ratings .

It can be done. The last two vehicles I owned were an Altima 3.5 and a Dodge Ram 1500 4X4 Hemi.

Altima original tires lasted 82,000 miles. Thats not a typo. I replaced the oem EL42 bridgestones with Bridgestone Serenity's and got 65,000 out of two sets. Traded that car on my Maxima. The Maxima still has two of the original tires on it and I just hit 60,000 miles. It does need tires now.

My Ram got 50,000 out of the original GY HP's, I put Michelin AT's on it and got 60,000 miles out of each set. Moth of those miles were towing a loaded 7X16 enclosed trailer weighing over 6000 lbs.

Traded the ram on a 2012 Grand Cherokee AWD Hemi. OEM michelins wore out fast on this one. Only managed 40,000 miles but this is an AWD vehicle. It also did a fair amount of towing. Second set are the Michelin LTX AT2's. They have 10,000 miles on them and I just rotated them for the second time. They still look like new.

Planning on putting the Michelin Pilot Sport AS3's on the Maxima. Hoping to get 40-45,000 miles out of them...
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Old 11-02-2014, 12:36 PM
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Mileage depends on so many factors like driving style, psi level, psi inconsistency, and tire type. Tire type is very important because the softer the tire the quicker the wear so if you get a summer tire it will wear quicker vs an all season. This is just what I have experienced in 20+ years of driving all sorts of cars and tires. I'm sure a lease has some language about tires but maybe not...
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Old 11-02-2014, 02:47 PM
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Howdy everyone!
Just joined the forum after buying a 2014 Maxima SV w/ Sport Package.
have always been a Nissan guy having owned a 1998 & 2002 Maxima, 2003 350Z and a couple of Pathfinders back in the day.
As I'm reading this thread on tire rotation, I know that I have finally come full circle. Only automobile enthusiasts like me could debate something like tire rotation!
Oh and to stay on topic... I rotate tires every 7,500 miles.
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I have 46K on my OEM RS-As, with 5/32nds left on the tread on two and 4/32nds on the other 2. Replacement time is at hand.

I check the tire wear carefully every three months (actually measure tread depth in each groove), and rotate every 15K. Never have a problem. The 5K rotation thing is purely dealer service dept profit. Even if the rotation is free, it gives the mechanic a chance to misthread the lugs, strip the lug threads, break the chrome cap off the lugs, torque to the wrong tension, etc, etc, etc.
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So true Light. Don't think too many mechanics thread wheel nuts by hand anymore. My local guy does but he's not at a dealership. I go by season or every other oil change for rotation.
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seems we almost all agree to rotate based on tire wire. and almost always the fronts will wear faster than the rears, on most front wheel drive cars. Now my 67 shelby cobra thats a different story rears seem to go first. hum I wonder why.

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