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Old 07-09-2015, 06:10 AM
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Accord V-6 vs Maxima

Here's something that is somewhat upsetting when you think of Nissan's push to call the Maxima a 4DSC:

The Honda Accord V-6 has a 3.5L V-6 pushing 278 HP / 252 FT-LBS through a 6-speed auto and that results in a 0-60 time of 5.5 secs. This is on regular unleaded with a curb weight of 3,550 lbs.

The Maxima has a 3.5L V-6 pushing 300 HP / 261 FT-LBS through a CVT and that results in a 0-60 time of 5.8 seconds. This is on premium unleaded with a curb weight of approx 3,500 lbs.

Doesn't make the Maxima seem that sporty any more, when an everyday family sedan is actually quicker even with a power deficit. I'm guessing that must be the result of the Accord's 6-speed vs the CVT since the cars are both about the same weight. I wonder how the refreshed Accord coming out this fall with the new 9-speed will fare?
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I think your first mistake is considering if a car is sporty or not by it's 0-60 acceleration. I would bet that the Maxima would hand the Accord a whoopin in the corners. Also, I would wait for more reviews and more numbers to roll in instead of basing it off one single test from Motor Trend.
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CVT ftl.
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The Accord fights against the Altima

Acura TLX goes against Maxims, Avalon etc.

Accord v6 mileage - 21 city / 34 highway
Maxima mileage - 22 city / 30 highway

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I think your first mistake is considering if a car is sporty or not by it's 0-60 acceleration. I would bet that the Maxima would hand the Accord a whoopin in the corners. Also, I would wait for more reviews and more numbers to roll in instead of basing it off one single test from Motor Trend.

I agree that there's a lot more to it than just 0-60, however all the reviews have said the new Maxima isn't exactly sporty. Of course, neither is the Accord. I'm just making the point that the Accord is a bit faster with less power and equivalent weight. Inside the car it's no contest, the Maxima blows the Accord away, as it should, since it competes in a class above the Accord.


The 5.8 sec 0-60 is the best I've seen. Other reviews have shown high 5s or low 6s on the 0-60 for the Maxima.

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Originally Posted by george__
The Accord fights against the Altima

Acura TLX goes against Maxims, Avalon etc.

Accord v6 mileage - 21 city / 34 highway
Maxima mileage - 22 city / 30 highway


Yeah I'm aware of the Accord being in the Altima's class rather than the Maxima's, but I just think it's funny that a lower class car with less power is a bit faster and you'll never see Honda calling the Accord a 4DSC.
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Yeah I'm aware of the Accord being in the Altima's class rather than the Maxima's, but I just think it's funny that a lower class car with less power is a bit faster and you'll never see Honda calling the Accord a 4DSC.
0-60 times don't tell the entire story though... Not to mention a Maxima will drive much better than the popular large sedans it competes against.
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Originally Posted by george__
0-60 times don't tell the entire story though... Not to mention a Maxima will drive much better than the popular large sedans it competes against.

No doubt. My Azera feels like an old fogey car compared to the Maxima, even though it stills gets up and goes and hits 60 in about 6.2 secs.


Of course, you could buy a Golf R for about the same price as a Maxima SR/Platinum and completely blow the doors off a Maxima. But then you're driving a small hatchback with VW's poor track record on reliability and nowhere near all the tech bells and whistles.
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I have three family members with fully loaded honda accord V6 and it doesn't nearly compare to even the 7th gen maxima loaded up with premium sport tech etc its a totally different built ride
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You sure those times are accurate for the 6sp auto and not the manual I was just at the track Sunday and both an accords sedan touring and coupe sport were there and both auto and the best they did quarter mile was 14.2
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You sure those times are accurate for the 6sp auto and not the manual I was just at the track Sunday and both an accords sedan touring and coupe sport were there and both auto and the best they did quarter mile was 14.2
http://autofiles.com/0-60-times/honda/accord/
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From what I can tell...Motortrend tested a V6 Accord Coupe w/ 6spd manual was 5.6 sec...which weighed less than 3400 lbs. So...apples and oranges comparison. This was the 2013 model.
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Originally Posted by zillafreak
Going by the same source...the 2016 Maxima times were also 5.6sec 0-60...and 14.1 sec @ 100 mph quarter mile.
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come on guys, who really cares. the accord is a competent car i'm sure, but the new max destroys it in terms of style, tech and interior fit and finish. nobody is going to turn their heads to look at an accord, since every other car on the road is an accord.
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I like exterior of Accord better
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Old 07-09-2015, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by george__
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I like exterior of Accord better
lol big surprise. all you do is spew venom about this car in every single post you make. to each their own. enjoy your accord.
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lol big surprise. all you do is spew venom about this car in every single post you make. to each their own. enjoy your accord.
Nah. I think it's a very good large sedan with awesome interior and bang for buck technology. Best in its class? I think it's best bang for buck but it's no 4DSC
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Nah. I think it's a very good large sedan with awesome interior and bang for buck technology. Best in its class? I think it's best bang for buck but it's no 4DSC
I'll agree with you there. It's definitely not a sports car. I think the 4DSC markers on the car look cool, but if anybody asked me about them, I'd be embarrassed to explain.
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I like exterior of Accord better
Accord in top trims looks very nice, I agree!
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Originally Posted by wtgkb8
Going by the same source...the 2016 Maxima times were also 5.6sec 0-60...and 14.1 sec @ 100 mph quarter mile.
That site has so many inaccurate stats, several cars I looked at on there had faster times than whats there...lol
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Its kind of a joke on many car forums, when a thread is started on a new car, to see how long it takes before someone posts that an Accord V6 will blow its doors off.
That being said, at the end of the day, Accord, Altima, and Camry V6's are pretty quick. Even the 5.7 litre Hemi in the Charger and 300c barely got to 60 in under 6 seconds until they added the 8 speed transmission this year.
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Originally Posted by ROMIL
Here's something that is somewhat upsetting when you think of Nissan's push to call the Maxima a 4DSC:

The Honda Accord V-6 has a 3.5L V-6 pushing 278 HP / 252 FT-LBS through a 6-speed auto and that results in a 0-60 time of 5.5 secs. This is on regular unleaded with a curb weight of 3,550 lbs.

The Maxima has a 3.5L V-6 pushing 300 HP / 261 FT-LBS through a CVT and that results in a 0-60 time of 5.8 seconds. This is on premium unleaded with a curb weight of approx 3,500 lbs.

Doesn't make the Maxima seem that sporty any more, when an everyday family sedan is actually quicker even with a power deficit. I'm guessing that must be the result of the Accord's 6-speed vs the CVT since the cars are both about the same weight. I wonder how the refreshed Accord coming out this fall with the new 9-speed will fare?

There are a lot of things slightly off in most things we see on the internet these days. For instance, I am seeing sites and posts (one quoted in your post) that show the 2016 Maxima as 3500 pounds. Yes, the Maxima S is not much above 3500 pounds, but each model increases the weight. I have seen the curb weight for the Platinum given as OVER 3700 pounds in two publications.

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I have three family members with fully loaded honda accord V6 and it doesn't nearly compare to even the 7th gen maxima loaded up with premium sport tech etc its a totally different built ride
Yes, my son (with whom I will be spending this weekend) has a new Accord Touring (top of the line) he bought last fall. It has lighted sillplates, adaptive cruise control, etc, etc, and is a very fine automobile. But every time I sit in the 2016 Maxima, I realize the Maxima is a much finer and more impressive automobile, especially the interior, which is where I will be every time I go anywhere.

I think these two cars would show similar zero to sixty times, but will never know, because I do not buy my cars to race in. I buy for handling, comfort, styling and overall performance and convenience. I see the 2016 Maxima as edging the Accord in each of those categories.
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The technical specs tell the real story.

Originally Posted by ROMIL
Here's something that is somewhat upsetting when you think of Nissan's push to call the Maxima a 4DSC:

The Honda Accord V-6 has a 3.5L V-6 pushing 278 HP / 252 FT-LBS through a 6-speed auto and that results in a 0-60 time of 5.5 secs. This is on regular unleaded with a curb weight of 3,550 lbs.
Honda typically has SOHC V6es with VTEC. That is the same case here. The Accord V6 also comes standard with 17" rims.

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The Maxima has a 3.5L V-6 pushing 300 HP / 261 FT-LBS through a CVT and that results in a 0-60 time of 5.8 seconds. This is on premium unleaded with a curb weight of approx 3,500 lbs.
Nissan continues with their DOHC V6 VQ series motor. The Maxima comes standard with 18" rims and optional 19" rims.

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Doesn't make the Maxima seem that sporty any more, when an everyday family sedan is actually quicker even with a power deficit. I'm guessing that must be the result of the Accord's 6-speed vs the CVT since the cars are both about the same weight. ....
Bigger rims always look great, but take away power. Put 18s on the Honda and that would level the playing field. 19s on the Maxima would look better but the car would be even slower. VTEC is nice but tends to come alive at the extremes of the rev range. My guess would be that the Accord SOHC V6 only goes hard when you rev all stink out of it. This is reminiscent of the Honda S2000, where you have to rev to the moon and drop the clutch to get decent performance out of it.

Honda did do a DOHC VTEC V6 car once, in the legendary 1st gen NSX

The DOHC V6 Maxima, by comparison, comes alive whenever, at the drop of a hat. DOHC V6 FTW

Also interesting is that both Honda and Nissan continue with "regular" fuel injection in the the Accord/Maxima V6es whereas direct injection is used in other models of their lineup.
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