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Old Mar 12, 2018 | 01:30 PM
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Maxima makes the $hit list

http://www3.forbes.com/business/12-n...sale-values/8/

6. Nissan Maxima

Loses 34.0% of its original value after one year for an average net loss of $12,469.
Old Mar 12, 2018 | 02:42 PM
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Isn't this the same list as last year? Like is this just he same article ?
Old Mar 12, 2018 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 04BlackMaxx
http://www3.forbes.com/business/12-n...sale-values/8/

6. Nissan Maxima

Loses 34.0% of its original value after one year for an average net loss of $12,469.
Well that would be bad but only if you paid list price. Otherwise you are in the same boat os most other cars depr.
Old Mar 12, 2018 | 03:02 PM
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Unfortunately this is typical for sedans in general now.
Old Mar 12, 2018 | 03:58 PM
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Well that is probably true for many cars that are not that popular, and the Max is definitely a niche car. And as guvadc already said, being a sedan doesn't help

But given that Nissan cared enough to give it another facelift for 2019, I'm hopeful that Nissan still cares about this brand too
Old Mar 12, 2018 | 04:11 PM
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Yes the Maxima makes the hit list for slightly used car....again.
Old Mar 12, 2018 | 04:19 PM
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I bought my SR for 23% off MSRP so I will loss 11% for the first year calculated to be $4345. Not bad.
Old Mar 12, 2018 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 04BlackMaxx
http://www3.forbes.com/business/12-n...sale-values/8/

6. Nissan Maxima

Loses 34.0% of its original value after one year for an average net loss of $12,469.
Don't believe these fake news articles and research devaluation on any car, 2017 650i X-drive out the dealer with 2 miles on the dash $95k, one year later 18,618 on the dash $67k talk about devaluation same with the S class brand new $98k after one year and 20k miles $60 to 68k and what about the 330i Xdrive which goes for $43k well equipped and after 1 year and 6,112 miles goes for 33k
Old Mar 12, 2018 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by bones787718
Don't believe these fake news articles and research devaluation on any car, 2017 650i X-drive out the dealer with 2 miles on the dash $95k, one year later 18,618 on the dash $67k talk about devaluation same with the S class brand new $98k after one year and 20k miles $60 to 68k and what about the 330i Xdrive which goes for $43k well equipped and after 1 year and 6,112 miles goes for 33k
Yeah Lux cars depreciate like a meteor. I'm starting to see a bunch of Hyundai Equus around town, because their practically giving me them away. To think they we were 60+k a couple years ago. I was tempted but then thought about the repair costs
Old Mar 13, 2018 | 04:27 PM
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What about

http://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/u...le-value-award
Old Mar 13, 2018 | 06:15 PM
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2017 Maxima Best Resale Value Award, Full-Size Cars

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Yeah, what about this one guys? 2017 Best Resale Value Award, Full-Size Cars.
Old Mar 13, 2018 | 06:55 PM
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As long as you love the car who cares if it looses value. I have not known anyone selling their cars the first year....
Old Mar 13, 2018 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ALRONDON
As long as you love the car who cares if it looses value. I have not known anyone selling their cars the first year....
Being the guy who likes to buy slightly used cars, thank goodness for you folks that sell after just a year (or less). Thanks for paying the premium for me
Old Mar 14, 2018 | 08:40 AM
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Being the guy who likes to buy slightly used cars, thank goodness for you folks that sell after just a year (or less). Thanks for paying the premium for me
I hear U ,but as long as your careful not to get a dealer buyback for being a Lemon or a flooded new car from a different state with a clean title you will be fine. I waited until the end of January 2018 to get a left over 2017.5 which was not selling and seemed in the lot for months (Build Date Feb 2017) . I offered 12K below the Msrp and they accepted it right away ...
Old Mar 14, 2018 | 02:43 PM
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Remember, just because you are in a place on the list, either top or bottom, if the majority of the vehicles around you are nearly the same value (i.e. most sedans are 30% or higher on the depreciation list) does it really matter?
Old Mar 14, 2018 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by WHealy
Remember, just because you are in a place on the list, either top or bottom, if the majority of the vehicles around you are nearly the same value (i.e. most sedans are 30% or higher on the depreciation list) does it really matter?
No it doesn't...

And in 2017 Maxima was best in class resale value , in a class that does not have good resale value. In 2018 it was number 2 on list. The top 3 in the list are the Avalon, Impala, And Maxima. The Avalon and Maxima go back and forth for 1 and 2.

Another thing to consider is that most of us got our Maxima with a pretty big discount off of MSRP. I'm wondering if Maxima comes in with higher MSRP than what it should causing a bigger gap in what they actually sell for compared to MSRP. If a formula to look at resale value uses the MSRP, then resale value will come off way low, but a chunk of that would be taken off with the discounts .
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Also made this list:

https://www.autoblog.com/photos/best...#slide-4792869
Old Mar 14, 2018 | 04:27 PM
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We just bought a 2017 new, last years stock in late February 2018. The discount was so large that no other car could compete from a cost standpoint. Point being that at least with our timing the depreciation was real but benefitted us tremendously. It's a Platinum with Medallion Package, Carpeted floor and trunk mats, splash guards, and rocker panel moldings. It was about $14K off MSRP. It's a lot of car for the money. Many times after purchasing a new car I would have some kind of buyers remorse, bought an EX instead of an EX-L, wish I would have got ... With this car it's no compromise on packages or accessories and a certainty that it was a rock bottom price. It's the happiest we've ever been with a new car purchase.
Old Mar 14, 2018 | 07:47 PM
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Seems silly to me that they put this in the worst value category, as if style and extra sportiness have no value. Not to mention even the base model has many features that are extra on other cars.

I'm just glad the Maxima isn't on this list:
https://gearheads.org/the-top-25-lea...rs-in-america/
Old Mar 15, 2018 | 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Fishlet
Seems silly to me that they put this in the worst value category, as if style and extra sportiness have no value. Not to mention even the base model has many features that are extra on other cars.

I'm just glad the Maxima isn't on this list:
https://gearheads.org/the-top-25-lea...rs-in-america/
There are a few cars on that would do me just fine..
Old Mar 15, 2018 | 04:02 AM
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The consumer Reports thing is bad, as in Consumer Reports is bad. I remember similar comments on Autoweek about how its Size, but they go on to praise it. Like you said, the fact that it is more of a "sports car" compared to other cars is its value. If I did not want a "4 door Sports Car" I would not have gotten the Maxima, I would have gotten an Accord V6 in some variety.

As for the other lists, these things are getting out of hand, Its as if these things are coming out to make ppl feel bad so they run and dump their vehicle and get something else if they have a car on the list. There are cars on that list Id consider to be good cars to own and drive depending on needs and wants.
Old Mar 15, 2018 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by zrxsteve62
We just bought a 2017 new, last years stock in late February 2018. The discount was so large that no other car could compete from a cost standpoint. Point being that at least with our timing the depreciation was real but benefitted us tremendously. It's a Platinum with Medallion Package, Carpeted floor and trunk mats, splash guards, and rocker panel moldings. It was about $14K off MSRP. It's a lot of car for the money. Many times after purchasing a new car I would have some kind of buyers remorse, bought an EX instead of an EX-L, wish I would have got ... With this car it's no compromise on packages or accessories and a certainty that it was a rock bottom price. It's the happiest we've ever been with a new car purchase.
I agree with this 100%. I shopped the Maxima, and on the 17, with all of the discounts and 0% APR....you would not find more car for the money, not even close. Now MSRP is a different story. I would probably be driving one if they had one on the lot that did not vibrate like car with a square wheel. I am shopping the Q 50 and that has the same issues as far as resale...maybe worse. I like the Max interior better and you get far more options for the money. I want the AWD and I love the exterior style of the Q. The max just has some odd angles to me and is bulky if that makes sense. That being said, I would probably be driving one because of its excellent value with incentives....all except for the vibrating thing.....**** on the reviews...it is a great car.
Old Mar 15, 2018 | 07:58 PM
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Just paid under 31K for a new 17 SR. To hell with depreciation, it still smells like new.
Old Mar 16, 2018 | 05:28 AM
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This is why:

1. Always negotiate / never pay list price.
2. Lease.

So in my case, it's Nissan who is left holding the bag, unless I negotiate to buy the car at the end of my lease, which I won't do due to the piece-of-$hit navigation system + infotainment.
Old Mar 16, 2018 | 04:10 PM
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This link was pretty interesting...

Not sure where this data comes from, but if it's accurate than Maxima's are selling better than they have since 2006. There was a definite uptick with the 8th generation.

http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales...nissan-maxima/
Old Mar 16, 2018 | 05:25 PM
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Atleast Maxima didn't make this list: https://www.cheatsheet.com/automobiles/25-worst-selling-cars.html/?a=viewall
Old Mar 17, 2018 | 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Jax
Atleast Maxima didn't make this list: https://www.cheatsheet.com/automobil...tml/?a=viewall

There are about 12 cars on that list I would be just fine driving...Especially the SS
Old Mar 17, 2018 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by lindros2
This is why:

1. Always negotiate / never pay list price.
2. Lease.

So in my case, it's Nissan who is left holding the bag, unless I negotiate to buy the car at the end of my lease, which I won't do due to the piece-of-$hit navigation system + infotainment.
Geez, I am delighted with my Navi and Bose system. Go look at any Acura from 2010 thru 2015 with the tech Navi package. Now those qualify at true POS effforts.
Old Mar 17, 2018 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by robtroxel
Geez, I am delighted with my Navi and Bose system. Go look at any Acura from 2010 thru 2015 with the tech Navi package. Now those qualify at true POS effforts.
I didn't like the nav at first, since the graphics and interface seem kinda primitive compared even to my $200 window mounted Garmin. But I've slowly got used to it, and it while not pretty it does a decent job on the actual turn by turn instructions. As far as in-car units go, I've never owned one so I have no point of reference
Old Mar 20, 2018 | 02:30 PM
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It didn't make this list either.....

http://moneyinc.com/20-cars-avoid-costs-2017/
Old Mar 21, 2018 | 08:52 AM
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Geez, I am delighted with my Navi and Bose system. Go look at any Acura from 2010 thru 2015 with the tech Navi package. Now those qualify at true POS effforts.
I owned a 2011 MDX and 2014 MDX, so I'm with you. That's why we bolted. 2015 Pathfinder system = fine. 2016 Maxima = major issues.

And was expecting more on a 2016 or 2017 model year, dude.

Even Acura has caught up with their new ones.
Old Mar 21, 2018 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by lindros2
I owned a 2011 MDX and 2014 MDX, so I'm with you. That's why we bolted. 2015 Pathfinder system = fine. 2016 Maxima = major issues.

And was expecting more on a 2016 or 2017 model year, dude.

Even Acura has caught up with their new ones.
Guess that's why it's a freebie and not an extra cost feature. To paraphrase my earlier comment, it ain't perty but it gets the job done
Old Mar 21, 2018 | 06:56 PM
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Guess that's why it's a freebie and not an extra cost feature. To paraphrase my earlier comment, it ain't perty but it gets the job done
Guess you're not a business or pricing person - it's not "free" - it's baked into the cost.

Same reason why Ford is "simplifying" their configurations (from 2000 > 36 on the Fusion) and "throwing in previously optional features". It's cheaper for them to give away stuff for "free" than mess with configurations.

With that said, the Maxima navi is crap. I've had my head unit replaced twice. Soon to be 3.
Old Mar 21, 2018 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishlet
Guess that's why it's a freebie and not an extra cost feature. To paraphrase my earlier comment, it ain't perty but it gets the job done
Read here:
https://www.autoblog.com/2018/03/21/...drivers-notes/

"... especially with the very dated infotainment system..."

This is Nissan's Achilles heel.

It hurt Honda/Acura. It hurt Chevy/Cadillac. But it will doom Nissan if they don't get their sh---t together - fast.
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Originally Posted by wild *****
"Space per dollar?". Give me a break. I would not give you 2 cents for CR opinions!
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Originally Posted by robtroxel
Geez, I am delighted with my Navi and Bose system. Go look at any Acura from 2010 thru 2015 with the tech Navi package. Now those qualify at true POS effforts.
Agree with you 100%!
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