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2019's are rolling in.....

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My Nissan mechanic buddy snapped a couple pics of a 2019 SR that came in today.......not bad.
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Pics? I want to check out the 19 but not paying full msrp.
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They are not very different from the 2018s, but more disturbingly the 2019 Altimas look almost the same as the Maximas. On the flip side, the 2019 Maxima offers more standard safety features ...
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I really dislike the reflectors moved down into the rear bumper.
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Everyone mistakes it for an Altima, I like it, but they need to separate it more like different engine options not available on the Altima. It shouldn't be mistaken for a common airport rental fleet car.
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Good looking Altima...
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I feel like a lot of people need to get their vision checked. I'm around these cars every day and I see absolutely no similarities to the Altima aside from the floating roof. And the Maxima IMO is better looking.
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Originally Posted by 04BlackMaxx View Post
Everyone mistakes it for an Altima, I like it, but they need to separate it more like different engine options not available on the Altima. It shouldn't be mistaken for a common airport rental fleet car.
The 2019 Altima no longer offers the 3.5 L V6, they changed to 2.5 Turbo.
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Whoa... they have Orange now? When did that happen!

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Originally Posted by 04BlackMaxx View Post
Everyone mistakes it for an Altima, I like it, but they need to separate it more like different engine options not available on the Altima. It shouldn't be mistaken for a common airport rental fleet car.
As lionel2013 stated in an earlier post, you can't get more than 248 hp in a 2019 Altima (300 hp for Maxima), though a slight advantage in torque at 273 ft-lbs (261 ft-lbs in Maxima). Best engine in an Altima is only a brand new 2.0L VC Turbo I-4 verses the tried/true 3.5L VQ V6. Driving dynamics it's no contest.
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Hey fattie, I'm with you, dont like the reflectors on the rear bumper either, feels cheap.
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I wasn't a fan of the nose at first, but now I really like it. Looks like the kind of squared the face a bit, while dropping the "V" to extend down more. Fog light cutouts aren't bad and the chrome lip is a nice touch!

Still coming around a bit on the rear end.....

I currently have a Platinum 16 pearl with blonde leather. Would like to see a 19 in same color scheme, or even with the racuda color interior (orange)
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<<I'm around these cars every day and I see absolutely no similarities to the Altima aside from the floating roof.>>

Google "2019 Nissan Altima" and I think you will see what I mean.

2019, not 2018.

On a related note, have you guys seen the 2019 Avalons? Butt-ugly, IMHO. When it comes to design they went from ultra-conservative/glorified Camry look, to ... very different but uninspired.

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Old 12-20-2018, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by R1600Turbo View Post
I feel like a lot of people need to get their vision checked. I'm around these cars every day and I see absolutely no similarities to the Altima aside from the floating roof. And the Maxima IMO is better looking.
People just like to b*t*h
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Hey fattie, I'm with you, dont like the reflectors on the rear bumper either, feels cheap.
I'm with both you guys. Posted this the other day in another thread: "While beauty of course is in the eye of the beholder, and I do think the '19 Maxima is still a great looking car, I hands-down preferred just about everything about the '18 (really, the '16-'18). Most importantly, I like the lights and look of both the front-end and back-end of the '18 better. I also absolutely love the stock wheels on the '18, and really didn't like at all the new wheels on the Platinum. As well, while maybe that Rakuda Tan (dark orange) might look good with certain exterior colors (Black, White, Gun Metallic, Silver), I thought it clashed terribly with my choice of Carnelian Red. And while the '19 added a few features I would have liked -- additional safety items (pedestrian detection, rear auto braking, lane departure warning, rear door alert, knee air bags), LED fog lights, upgraded navi, USB-C ports, heated rear seats -- in total I felt they were all just nice-to-haves, didn't come close to making up for the other things I preferred about the '18. When my dealer offered me 21% off the '18 MSRP, that was just icing on the cake. So now a very proud owner -- finally! -- of an 8th generation Maxima. Couldn't be happier."

Fishlet, that new orange color (Sunset Drift) was added for the '19s, so now 7 exterior colors versus the 6 offered in '18. I saw it on my dealer's showroom floor on a '19 Altima. I think it's a pretty nice color. Sporty, maybe slightly "loud." Those photos above capture it well, kind of a dark orange. But even if it had been offered on the '18s, I'd have stuck with my first choice of Carnelian Red.
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Old 12-20-2018, 11:06 AM
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On a related note, have you guys seen the 2019 Avalons? Butt-ugly, IMHO. When it comes to design they went from ultra-conservative/glorified Camry look, to ... very different but uninspired.
Ughhh, just googled the Avalon. That grill makes me want to hurl... it's just baaaad.




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Ughhh, just googled the Avalon. That grill makes me want to hurl... it's just baaaad.





I personally find the front grill lacking in size and needs to be bigger on the Avalon.
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Old 12-20-2018, 01:40 PM
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looks pretty good... need to see in person, had my max for 3 years now. dont know what im gonna get next year... stinger gt2 deals are super tempting right now though...
unfortunately i live in hawaii so generally the cars come in 3-4 months after everyone else. the 2019 altimas only came in last week. test drove a plat yesterday

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<<<I personally find the front grill lacking in size and needs to be bigger on the Avalon>>>

Hahahahaha :-) Prime example of overdoing something that was overdone and old news already.
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You guys think it was a mistake Nissan going with 19 wheels on Platinum model? 245/40 definetly going to be louder, rougher and more expensive to replace tires.

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You're now able to build and price the 2019s now. I'm glad that LED headlights are now standard across ALL trims, and not just the SR and Platinum.
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At a quick glance they look like the same car.. Too close to justify a 10 grand price difference..
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Originally Posted by Nmax5150 View Post
At a quick glance they look like the same car.. Too close to justify a 10 grand price difference..
I was looking at a 2.5 L Altima a couple days ago...it was 35 FKN thousand dollars!! Not in this lifetime....that is not even the "Premium motor" They are not that far apart in Price....and if you factor in all of the incentives that are usually on the Max.......it is cheaper. And you can not even compare the interiors.....the altima sucks
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I was looking at a 2.5 L Altima a couple days ago...it was 35 FKN thousand dollars!! Not in this lifetime....that is not even the "Premium motor" They are not that far apart in Price....and if you factor in all of the incentives that are usually on the Max.......it is cheaper. And you can not even compare the interiors.....the altima sucks
My wife bought a new 17 Altima sr Midnight. sticker was 26 and change.. with rebates drove it out for 19,200... brand new car.. 18 inch wheels and loaded.. Maxima sr midnight sticker same year is 45 grand.. that is not even close..lol
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At a quick glance they look like the same car.. Too close to justify a 10 grand price difference..
Yyyyyep. My point exactly. But dollar for dollar I'm still gonna buy a Maxima, especially since the Altimas no longer come with a V6.

However .... Let us not smack down the Altimas, they are a serious competitor to the Max. So serious I think at some point Nissan will have to make a decision on which model to keep. I haven't driven any recent Altima, but for years and years I had an 05 Maxima, while wifey had an 05 Altima, leather, fully loaded, V6, same engine. I have to tell you, although the 05 Max looked sexier than the 05 Altima, driving the latter was very, very satisfying and comfortable, and perhaps a bit peppier since it is a smaller car than the 05 Max. Whenever I had to drive it, I enjoyed the experience, it was a very fun car to drive. But built with the same subpar OEM parts, dear ex wifey had to get rid of it at 136k miles for too much money in repairs, just like I sadly had to say goodbye to my beloved 05 Max for the same reasons, at about the same mileage. Not the engine or the tranny, just miscellaneous, obscure stuff that added up to a lot, - think thousands of dollars a year. With that perspective and having owned 4 (four) Camry's in the past (89, 97, 2000, 2016), I think that is what Nissan has to overcome in order to overtake Toyota: build quality. Because when it comes to driving pleasure an comfort, Nissan beats Toyota to a pulp.

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Yyyyyep. My point exactly. But dollar for dollar I'm still gonna buy a Maxima, especially since the Altimas no longer come with a V6.

However .... Let us not smack down the Altimas, they are a serious competitor to the Max. So serious I think at some point Nissan will have to make a decision on which model to keep. I haven't driven any recent Altima, but for years and years I had an 05 Maxima, while wifey had an 05 Altima, leather, fully loaded, V6, same engine. I have to tell you, although the 05 Max looked sexier than the 05 Altima, driving the latter was very, very satisfying and comfortable, and perhaps a bit peppier since it is a smaller car than the 05 Max. Whenever I had to drive it, I enjoyed the experience, it was a very fun car to drive. But built with the same subpar OEM parts, dear ex wifey had to get rid of it at 136k miles for too much money in repairs, just like I sadly had to say goodbye to my beloved 05 Max for the same reasons, at about the same mileage. Not the engine or the tranny, just miscellaneous, obscure stuff that added up to a lot, - think thousands of dollars a year. With that perspective and having owned 4 (four) Camry's in the past (89, 97, 2000, 2016), I think that is what Nissan has to overcome in order to overtake Toyota: build quality. Because when it comes to driving pleasure an comfort, Nissan beats Toyota to a pulp.
Nothing wrong with a Altima.. They outsell Maxima 10 to 1..... I love my 7th Gen... Looks nothing like the Altima and looks good for all angles.. THe 8th Gen looks ok from the front only.. Those huge body lines on the side and the ridiculous short windows make the car look un sporty. Great for chicks or guy's in a mid life crisis...lol...
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My wife bought a new 17 Altima sr Midnight. sticker was 26 and change.. with rebates drove it out for 19,200... brand new car.. 18 inch wheels and loaded.. Maxima sr midnight sticker same year is 45 grand.. that is not even close..lol
Im talking the 2019. ^ That is a pretty good deal!
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Hi all,

My Nissan mechanic buddy snapped a couple pics of a 2019 SR that came in today.......not bad.
Now that is a sweet ride. Normally I do not like the orange metallic but on your Max that looks terrific. A word of caution. Your rims are sticking right out there at the edge of your tires (all of our stock Max's do). Notice you do not have much tire overlap of the rims. For this reason be VERY cautious around curbs or you will certainly get ugly curb rash even if you are being careful. If you have cash left over, and you plan to keep the car awhile you might want to consider a clear bra applique like 3M to protect that beautiful front end, headlights, hood, and outside mirror housings from road rash. Nissan paint chips quite easily but my 3M has been a godsend in this department.
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Im talking the 2019. ^ That is a pretty good deal!
great deal, not gonna see any good deals on altima this month for the 2019. sticker for the 19 plat was 33.4k. lowest i could get them to go was 31k cause theres no rebates or anything. no way
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Originally Posted by lionel2013 View Post
<<I'm around these cars every day and I see absolutely no similarities to the Altima aside from the floating roof.>>

Google "2019 Nissan Altima" and I think you will see what I mean.

2019, not 2018.

On a related note, have you guys seen the 2019 Avalons? Butt-ugly, IMHO. When it comes to design they went from ultra-conservative/glorified Camry look, to ... very different but uninspired.
No need for me to google for images, I see them every day.

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great deal, not gonna see any good deals on altima this month for the 2019. sticker for the 19 plat was 33.4k. lowest i could get them to go was 31k cause theres no rebates or anything. no way
I just discovered that the 2019 Altima just comes with the 4-banger, although that is a spunky little engine. No V6 option, so bummer for those who want the extra power for their Altima.
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I just discovered that the 2019 Altima just comes with the 4-banger, although that is a spunky little engine. No V6 option, so bummer for those who want the extra power for their Altima.
I would not dismiss the 2.5t just yet. To get max performance though it does require premium gas. Kinda cool how Nissan tuned it for both regular and premium.
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i would not dismiss the 2.5t just yet. To get max performance though it does require premium gas. Kinda cool how nissan tuned it for both regular and premium.
2.0t
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The 2.0t has more torque than our Max's! Would never own a turbo 4 though, as long as I can get a 6 that is good as the ones we have. And that extra link between the connecting rod and crank shaft (to get the dual-compression) has yet to be tested. Would kinda bother me as far as longevity goes, esp. hooked up to an over-coked turbo.
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Yyyyyep. My point exactly. But dollar for dollar I'm still gonna buy a Maxima, especially since the Altimas no longer come with a V6.


However .... Let us not smack down the Altimas, they are a serious competitor to the Max. So serious I think at some point Nissan will have to make a decision on which model to keep. I haven't driven any recent Altima, but for years and years I had an 05 Maxima, while wifey had an 05 Altima, leather, fully loaded, V6, same engine. I have to tell you, although the 05 Max looked sexier than the 05 Altima, driving the latter was very, very satisfying and comfortable, and perhaps a bit peppier since it is a smaller car than the 05 Max. Whenever I had to drive it, I enjoyed the experience, it was a very fun car to drive. But built with the same subpar OEM parts, dear ex wifey had to get rid of it at 136k miles for too much money in repairs, just like I sadly had to say goodbye to my beloved 05 Max for the same reasons, at about the same mileage. Not the engine or the tranny, just miscellaneous, obscure stuff that added up to a lot, - think thousands of dollars a year. With that perspective and having owned 4 (four) Camry's in the past (89, 97, 2000, 2016), I think that is what Nissan has to overcome in order to overtake Toyota: build quality. Because when it comes to driving pleasure an comfort, Nissan beats Toyota to a pulp.

I can agree with much of what you are saying, but Nissan has no decision to make. The Altima and the Maxima are not only aimed at totally different markets, but the Maxima is a step or two above the Altima in mage, desirability, interior, styling, and standard accessories. And the fact Nissan sells more Altimas than Maximas is exactly per Nissan's intentions. Carlos Ghosn made things very clear back in November 2002 when he said the Altima would be Nissan's affordable 'Everyman's' car, with sales hopefully around 300,000 units, while the Maxima would be taken upscale and be Nissan's flagship vehicle, with sales targeted around 70,000 units. And that is what has happened.

If we wish to compare the Altima with other vehicles, that should be done by comparing it against the vehicles automotive magazines and automotive testers do - cars such as the Accord and Camry.

It is to be expected that there will be those here who understandably question what I am saying, I can only encourage those folks to please remember these discussions when the 9th generation Maxima arrives. I don't think that vehicle will be mistaken for an Altima. I base that logic not only on the word we have received from Nissan folks, but on the reality that, with sedans disappearing from the scene, it truly would not be in Nissan's best interest to produce a ninth gen Maxima unless it was distinctively different from the Altima in both styling and content.

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I just discovered that the 2019 Altima just comes with the 4-banger, although that is a spunky little engine. No V6 option, so bummer for those who want the extra power for their Altima.
The 2.0 Turbo is actually slower than the 2002 3.5 SE was when it was introduced in 2001


2019 2.0 Altima vs 2002 3.5 SE
2002 Nissan Altima Program #2105 | MotorWeek


2019 Nissan Altima | MotorWeek
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I can agree with much of what you are saying, but Nissan has no decision to make. The Altima and the Maxima are not only aimed at totally different markets, but the Maxima is a step or two above the Altima in mage, desirability, interior, styling, and standard accessories. And the fact Nissan sells more Altimas than Maximas is exactly per Nissan's intentions. Carlos Ghosn made things very clear back in November 2002 when he said the Altima would be Nissan's affordable 'Everyman's' car, with sales hopefully around 300,000 units, while the Maxima would be taken upscale and be Nissan's flagship vehicle, with sales targeted around 70,000 units. And that is what has happened.

If we wish to compare the Altima with other vehicles, that should be done by comparing it against the vehicles automotive magazines and automotive testers do - cars such as the Accord and Camry.

It is to be expected that there will be those here who understandably question what I am saying, I can only encourage those folks to please remember these discussions when the 9th generation Maxima arrives. I don't think that vehicle will be mistaken for an Altima. I base that logic not only on the word we have received from Nissan folks, but on the reality that, with sedans disappearing from the scene, it truly would not be in Nissan's best interest to produce a ninth gen Maxima unless it was distinctively different from the Altima in both styling and content.
lightonthehill, I continue to enjoy you expressing the always thoughtful, thought-out and balanced perspectives you always do on this forum. Thanks.
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interesting to see your comment regarding Nissans sales goals for the Maxima being about 70k a year. if that is the case, it looks like it came pretty close to meeting their expectations with the 8th gen*, much more so than the previous 2 models.

* I posted the link before, but don't have it handy now.



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I had an 19 Altima this week as a loaner, while my 16 Max was having some work done. I drove it for most of a day. I had an AWD SL, NA 2.5, that had an MSRP of $32K+.

I was very impressed, mostly with the refined, quiet ride. It should fair well in the Accord/Camry market, but it will never, under any circumstance, be a competitor for the Max. Nothing about the interior, equipment, aesthetics or driving experience is remotely as satisfying as my 52K mile Maxima.

Another deal killer, for me, is the stupid iPad type infotainment center screen. It really feels like they forgot to design it in to the car, then came back and bolted a laptop on to the top of the dash. And I would feel the same if it was in a Lexus, BMW or Cadillac.
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