Should I or should not ? Alfa Romeo Giulia Ti Sport awd with all options. Red exterior with maroon interior.

 

I can not see a reason not to.....

 

Just keep in mind, it's a Fiat ... a Fiat-Chysler to be precise.

 

My issue with cars like those, and Maserati and Mini just to name a few, they don't have a lot of places you can get them worked on, either under warranty or out of pocket. If you have trouble with your dealership and want to move on, good luck finding one. Even Jaguar, you run into issues finding a good place to get it worked on.

On the plus side, the Alfa Romeo has a 4 year 50,000 warranty from new, which is great, but zero drivetrain. At least with an Infiniti you get 4 year 60,000 plus 6 year 70,000 powertrain. Easier to justify keeping an Infinity for a solid 5 years without much concern.

 

This is what this one has

• Basic: 48 month/80,000 km
• Powertrain: 48 month/80,000 km
• Corrosion Perforation: 60 month/160,000 km
• Roadside Assistance: 48 month/80,000 km

my understanding powertrain contains all drive train as well right? Including engine and transmission.
Only 2 dealerships in Alberta so I’m limited agreed. But if I’m comparing this my 17 max platinum. There is absolutely none.. I’d give max a solid 5/10 and giulia 9/10.

 

Well of course the Basic warranty covers all powertrain components. I think you miss-read or I was too vague or a little of both. What I meant was once the basic warranty runs out there is no continued coverage like you would see with a traditional separate powertrain protection.

 

This is very true. I bought my son a Mini. Even most all basic maint requires some sort of specialized tool..I have purchased quite a few. BMW is a PIA

 

Even with warranty, it's no fun taking your car to the shop all the time. Personally, I wouldn't.

 

ok makes sense .. not planning to keep any vehicles after warranty expires so good with that. Lately with Maxima I was hearing lots of creaks and noises. So giulia it is.

 

I looked at both the Giulia and the Genesis G70 (3.3T, but would have taken a 2.0T after a drive event).
Fact is that Nissan made it "easy" to get another car. I like my dealer. And my car has been fine (final assembly issues described on this forum aside).

Sure the other cars are more "driver" cars. They're cooler.
But they're also more of a pain in the a-- to own. Alfa service worries me (every single magazine had issues). CarPlay levels the playing field on navigation/infotainment (even though Nissan's implementation is sh-tty).
And Genesis (at the time) threw on $3-5k of crap without any way to negotiate.

 

You got it, that car in all of it's levels up to the Quadrafollila is a nightmare to own! I would stay clear of that car!!!

 

I'd recommend leasing then if you're not doing that currently. I buy used cars all the time, did an evaluation of the last 3 cars I've been driving, including maintenance and out of warranty repair costs. Then compared that to a $430 lease over the same period. It almost broke even. In that the lease over the same 15 year period only cost about $1000 more in total. If I could keep the cars longer it would be lucrative to own, but the last 2 only lasted 5 years before I hit a list of problems. The one I'm in now should help me push out to 16 years. If I can get to 17 I'm a bit more ahead of the lease option but I'm not there yet. If this one has to go, numbers go off again. Now, if I was buying brand new cars paying near full price plus the higher tax based on that purchase price, then it would stand to reason, I'd be way over the lease option in the same 15 year span, unless I was able to keep at least one car for over 8 years. But even then, tires and out of warranty work could be the real issue. Without doing the actual math, but based on the previous fully factored assessment, if I were buying new cars at say the $40k mark out the door and had 3 in the 15 year period, It would be equivalent to about a $670-$720 a month lease over the same period just at a round about guess.

 

Best trade I have ever done. Giulia is an amazing vehicle, light and nimble. Gets me about 700KM per tank, $55 to $60 fill ups. I have about 8,000KM at the moment and nothing but pure fun. I do not miss the heavy feeling of the Maxima. All the rattles and creeks. Giulia, even with long trips I don't get tired because of the seats, they are incredible. The only thing I miss about the Maxima is the noise cancelling. Although the sound system in Giulia is far superior. Yearly service or at 15k Kms, 2 Nissan dealerships in Calgary that I used were at sub par customer service. I would highly recommend the Giulia, turns heads like crazy.

 

Congrats......just to let you know..I have never been to a Nissan dealership that was not sub-par. I never return after purchase.....!!

 

Glad to hear you are happy. Two of my friends have the Giulia and regret their purchase due mainly to body hardware issues and electrical gremlins. Also one had braking issues that caused a locked wheel. That kind of trouble is unnerving at this price point for this class of vehicle. (Maxima is good and often gets compared to enthusiast cars which it really is not)

 

It is not listed as one of the most reliable of choices, but, it sure looks good to me.

 

not here to defend my purchase. However, my Altima and maxima both had their fair share of problems. I guess with cars you really don’t know. There is always a “reputation” of a company. However, half of it is the service you get. Nissan customer service is garbage specifically Sunridge Nissan in Calgary. Even if they give me a free car I will never go back to Nissan. Atleast with Alfa Romeo, I get treated well, free of change they fixed couple of my doings, door dings and a curb rash. Discount on oil change, and most of all took time to explain everything that was being done to the vehicle for the first service. Something I’d never expect from Nissan.

 

This is great news to be treated that way. With Nissan you are in a different class of car where the earlier client might have pulled in with a Sentra and the next an Altima. Imagine how a GTR customer might feel with treatment that probably will never rise to the level you have gotten. Can you tell me what an Alfa G goes for vs an Maxima?

 

Maybe I missed a post somewhere, so what year and model did you get?

 

I just checked out Edmund's car reviews and the 2019 Giulia Quadrifoglio (top end) scored lower overall than the 2019 Nissan Maxima Platinum. I won't be able to compare more accurately until I know the year and model you traded for.

 

giula qv is about 500hp and isn’t comparable to the maxima so we can leave it at that that car is 100k. edmunds car review is a joke btw, read the actual customer reviews of both vehicles.

I have the 2019 2.0 turbo. 280hp, 307 torque with everything that it offers top end of this engine About 69k starting but wit trade etc I was able to get for 60k This said, maxima is no where comparable to any of the Giulias. Giulia easily beats maxima in every way.
I suggest, go and test drive one, that will answer all your questions.

 

Thank you for the update. I hope you drive off into the sunset with your new ride!

 

So you paid more money, got an different upper class car that does lots of things very well. Not sure what all this has to do with the Maxima other than " I have an Alfa and you don'"t. I do hope you fare better than some of the early Alfas out there as far as QC matters.

 

Alfa's are a nightmare. The Car & Driver review is tip of the iceberg.
While I whine about the quality of my 2019 Maxima - it is horrible - it's the *finishing* quality (and infotainment), not the actual powertrain.
My 2011 BMW 535i was pretty bad - engine, oxygen sensor, headlight sensor (in the footwell?!), etc, but my 2013 was excellent (other than the crap audio - my fault I didn't get the HK or B&O).

My Maximas have been pretty reliable - no transmission, engine, or other issues that have torpedoed every (new/current-gen) Alfa I know of.

 

By no means this post is for “I have an alfa and you don’t” this is my way of expressing my experience with Nissan.

 

Any car you get......you can get a bad one.......

Any car that is rated poorly and also produce a few trouble free ones as well.

I stopped and saw a used julia with low miles a couple months ago...I was shocked at how low the price was...If I remember correctly it was about 25.

 

Ever since I updated my iPhone to iOS 13 I love the new setup in the CarPlay. Way better design and features. I guess it depends on the phone you’re connecting to the car as well

 

I thought this article was appropriate here https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news...hne?li=BBnb4R5

Here is the excerpt i refer to: : "If you’re looking to own long-term, maybe look at slightly used or even CPO cars with proven reliability—let someone else take the initial depreciation hit and you keep a dependable machine long-term. Shop around for different sources of financing, too. Look at credit unions in addition to what the dealer is offering. Don’t get tricked into too many add-ons, either. (One poor guy in this story got an extended warranty on a new Toyota RAV4. Look, you probably don’t need an extended warranty on that, it’s not an Alfa Romeo Giulia or something. A RAV4 is going to hold together just fine. It’s the entire point of buying a RAV4. Driving excitement sure as hell isn’t.)"