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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 04:38 AM
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Sorry, I don't know how I didn't see your response.
The d2 website said something about their new set up being more durable.
Do you think its possible that hitting a huge pothole really bad would just kill the shock instantly?
Its weird cause I hit a curb going probably 30, and it was enough to bend my wheel but the shock always seemed fine.
Old Jan 24, 2007 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by chillin014
Do you think its possible that hitting a huge pothole really bad would just kill the shock instantly?
YES.


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Its weird cause I hit a curb going probably 30, and it was enough to bend my wheel but the shock always seemed fine.






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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 07:13 AM
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Mom?.....is that you, mom?
That shock is still alive btw.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 10:47 AM
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Oh, I don't doubt it. My dampers have survived quite a few very hard hits as well (construction holes).

All I'm saying is that when you put your super stiff, non-ultra-high-end suspension through that kind of abuse, you can't expect it to come out intact. Think of it like turning your car on after it's been sitting at sub-zero temperatures for a week and then immediately banging it off the rev limiter for a minute straight. Will it be okay after that? Probably. But should you be surprised if something breaks? No.
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Originally Posted by d00df00d
Oh, I don't doubt it. My dampers have survived quite a few very hard hits as well (construction holes).

All I'm saying is that when you put your super stiff, non-ultra-high-end suspension through that kind of abuse, you can't expect it to come out intact. Think of it like turning your car on after it's been sitting at sub-zero temperatures for a week and then immediately banging it off the rev limiter for a minute straight. Will it be okay after that? Probably. But should you be surprised if something breaks? No.
i hear ya, i agree with the point your making. i just figured, "okay that ones gonna blow"....and it never did....but the right rear did.and now the right FRONT did.
anyway, enough of that. oddly enough, the car feels kinda similar in its stock form to the ksports...i cant explain how exactly though. obviously the handling isnt comparable. the tires feel happier though.
Old Jan 24, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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I used to go off ramps with my D2's.


































By ramps I mean bumpy intersections.
Old Jan 24, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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Dude... Stop abusing your suspension.
Old Jan 24, 2007 | 01:53 PM
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i need some rally suspension or something meant for street and gravel roads.
Old Jan 24, 2007 | 02:37 PM
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http://www.ksportusa.com/products/rallyspecar.html
http://www.ksportusa.com/products/rallyspecgr.html

No Maxima applications yet, but maybe if you ask really nicely...


This might be a good alternative, though -- expensive and for race use only, but it has their "reinforced internals":
http://www.ksportusa.com/products/versionrr.html
Old Jan 24, 2007 | 02:43 PM
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yeah i was looking at those, not sure how streetable any of them are though. sounds like kontrol pro's are the only ones recommended for the street (if that)
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What do you mean by "streetable"? Rally suspension is usually fairly soft...
Old Jan 25, 2007 | 03:09 PM
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changing dampening

How to I adjust the dampening of the ksports? I recieved mine used without documentation. All i know is somthing about using an alen wrench in some slot. So, I removed the nut in the very center, and used an allen wrench in the hole. However I kept twisting for over a minute and there seemed to be no end, so im guessing thats not the way. Please help.
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I mean something not specifically for off road. But good with bumps and **** as well. Ya hurrrd.
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What do you mean by "streetable"? Rally suspension is usually fairly soft...
Old Jan 25, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by thenoje
How to I adjust the dampening of the ksports? I recieved mine used without documentation. All i know is somthing about using an alen wrench in some slot. So, I removed the nut in the very center, and used an allen wrench in the hole. However I kept twisting for over a minute and there seemed to be no end, so im guessing thats not the way. Please help.
Its suposed to come with rods that are allen wrenches, they have an orange 'head' and have an arrow from H to S.
Old Jan 25, 2007 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by chillin014
I mean something not specifically for off road. But good with bumps and **** as well. Ya hurrrd.
I hurrrd. I just don't undersannnnnnnd.

If it's good for racing on rough terrain, that means it's very good at soaking up lots of small bumps to keep the wheels on the ground while at the same time providing a reasonable amount of body control. In other words, it'd give you more body roll, but also a much smoother ride and much better grip and traction on rough roads. Isn't that what you want?
Old Jan 25, 2007 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by thenoje
How to I adjust the dampening of the ksports? I recieved mine used without documentation. All i know is somthing about using an alen wrench in some slot. So, I removed the nut in the very center, and used an allen wrench in the hole. However I kept twisting for over a minute and there seemed to be no end, so im guessing thats not the way. Please help.
Um. The nut in the center is what holds the damper piston in the top mount....
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 01:10 AM
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Maybe I'm asking for too much. I want a suspension that can do both. I still want to be able to drop it down low and have all the height adjustability. The kontrol pro's just got me goin like 15 mph on some of the back streets out here.
Btw, on ksports website they have a picture in the banner and I'm not positive what it is but it reminded me of those in-cabin dampener control they were coming out with soon. I wonder if its out yet.
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I hurrrd. I just don't undersannnnnnnd.

If it's good for racing on rough terrain, that means it's very good at soaking up lots of small bumps to keep the wheels on the ground while at the same time providing a reasonable amount of body control. In other words, it'd give you more body roll, but also a much smoother ride and much better grip and traction on rough roads. Isn't that what you want?
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by chillin014
The kontrol pro's just got me goin like 15 mph on some of the back streets out here.
Me too. I have to make up the time on highway ramps. It's terrible.

But you're not asking too much. Here's what you need: http://www.bose.com/controller?event...lenge.jsp&ck=0

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Btw, on ksports website they have a picture in the banner and I'm not positive what it is but it reminded me of those in-cabin dampener control they were coming out with soon. I wonder if its out yet.
They are coming out with one of those. I don't know when, though.
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 04:55 AM
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Yeah houston is just full of construction all over the place. All well, I'm already getting tired of my stock suspension feeling, it was fun for a day or two however.
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 06:54 AM
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Its suposed to come with rods that are allen wrenches, they have an orange 'head' and have an arrow from H to S.
I have none of these allen wrenches. I PMed the guy I bought the coilovers from to see if he still has them, though i have not heard back. DO you think K-sport would sell me the wrenches only? How might I contact them. Seems their site is elusive.
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 07:31 AM
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www.ksportusa.com

And BE CAREFUL putting that top nut back on. You have to torque it down to 45 lb-ft EXACTLY, without letting the shaft spin...
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 08:47 AM
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I have none of these allen wrenches. I PMed the guy I bought the coilovers from to see if he still has them, though i have not heard back. DO you think K-sport would sell me the wrenches only? How might I contact them. Seems their site is elusive.
Yes they sell them on the website, under accessories or something.

And d00d I asked nick or whoever I talked to at Autoline last time I called and he said you could hold the shaft from moving with your hand since its only 45 lbs and if you have airtools tighten the nut and itd work like that. He said you basicaly just don't want the shaft spinnin like crazy. The shaft turns when you turn your steering wheel apparently, which makes sense to me. I never thought about that before.
Anyway, it was reassuring to me, that my hand could hold 45lbs and I could gauge it by that. I am fairly sure I torqued my rear nut down tighter than that though when I replaced it.
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 10:09 AM
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And d00d I asked nick or whoever I talked to at Autoline last time I called and he said you could hold the shaft from moving with your hand since its only 45 lbs and if you have airtools tighten the nut and itd work like that. He said you basicaly just don't want the shaft spinnin like crazy. The shaft turns when you turn your steering wheel apparently, which makes sense to me. I never thought about that before.
Anyway, it was reassuring to me, that my hand could hold 45lbs and I could gauge it by that. I am fairly sure I torqued my rear nut down tighter than that though when I replaced it.


I spoke to him a few months ago and he told me they used a special machine to do it....
Old Jan 29, 2007 | 10:04 AM
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one of my coilovers got damaged during a collision. Is there any way i can get just one coilover???
Old Jan 29, 2007 | 10:55 AM
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Call them up. They should be able to help you out -- worst case scenario, they'll just put one together from spare parts.
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let me know what which shock u need and i will check with ksport.
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i was thoroughly cleaning my coilovers and noticed a little bit of rust. around the pillow ball mounts (tiny bit) and on the threads at the bottom of the dampener on one of the rear's. is the shock body coated with something that could be corroding?
Old Jan 29, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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i was thoroughly cleaning my coilovers and noticed a little bit of rust. around the pillow ball mounts (tiny bit) and on the threads at the bottom of the dampener on one of the rear's. is the shock body coated with something that could be corroding?
Actually, the problem is more like a lack of coating (apparently the zinc plating isn't robust enough). The damper bodies and a lot of the parts in the pillow ball mounts are steel, which of course rusts if unprotected.
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is anyone surprised to hear from me again about a blown dampener? well, my front left one has a leak. It felt a little bouncy as i was driving today and i went to take a look, lifted the seal boot cover, and what do ya know....some nice oil resting on the top.
Ksport covered my front right strut under warranty despite it being expired by about a month. Well here i am 2 weeks later, and ive asked them my options. I dont feel like installing my stock suspension again, because i just switched back to my ksports YESTERDAY.
If i have to dump 100+ bucks on this dampener im not gonna be happy at all. so...here we go again.
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Ksports suck

mine sqeak... but ah good stuff, I raised it back up and it's at neutral preload. cornering FTW.
Old Feb 5, 2007 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by chillin014
is anyone surprised to hear from me again about a blown damper? well, my front left one has a leak.
Is this the one you rammed into a curb at 30 mph? Just checking.



P.S. Fixed the spelling of "damper" for you.

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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 07:12 AM
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Damn, I've been writing dampener all over the place.
And yes, this is the one I rammed into the curb, failing almost last in order of the failing dampers which I did not ram into curbs.
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Is this the one you rammed into a curb at 30 mph? Just checking.



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The other ones broke first just to mess with your head.
Old Feb 5, 2007 | 07:36 AM
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The other ones broke first just to mess with your head.
haha, this whole thing is "messin with my head". I need to get a new damper on ASAP so i dont continue this ongoing chain reaction. Awaiting a reply email from ksport....
It sucks they dont do advance replacement anymore, because i really....really...dont feel like putting my stock suspension back on AGAIN.
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This post has little relevance.....just wanted to let others know how disappointed I am in these coilovers. I have one blown "dampener" for sure...feels like all four. My old civic had ractive (or some crap) coilovers and blown stock struts and rode 15x better. I would recommend these to no one, can't wait to get them off. It is never good when literally EVERY person that rides in my car comments about how rough the ride is....so bad it will actually make the CD player skip multiple times just driving 15 min to school everyday. I have to drive like 15mph everywhere cause it feels like my car hit a curb going over bumps you can hardly see. They were great for about 4 months (good ride, handling, what I paid for) and since then nothing but trouble.....and KSport is so great they make you pay shipping (both ways) to get them fixed and if you send in a non-defective part they charge a maintenance fee. That is some service to go with a fine product.
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Not to ***** up the other thread, this is for doodfood:

Anyway, as i said before, my car rides like COMPLETE AZZ right now, its extremely hard, springy, and just feels horrible overall. Handling is great. I want to get softer springs. Jinsu told me its 220 shipped for all 4 springs, which is basically what good aftermarket performance springs cost, but thats irrelevant to this discussion.

Anyways, if i go down 2kg on all 4 corners, will my ride improve a ton? I'm in love with the handling, but this ride is honestly making me want to regret buying these things at times. I didnt expect them to ride anywhere near stock, but this sometimes feels like i have a solid suspension.
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Yes, dropping 2 kg/mm all around will make a big difference in ride quality. That will bring you down to 7 front, 4 rear. For reference, 4 kg/mm is damn near stock for the rear....

Picking spring rates is complicated, though. With 9/6 springs, your front springs are 50% stiffer than your rears. With 7/4, your fronts are 75% stiffer. That means you'll probably have even more of an understeer bias with 7/4 than with 9/6.

Then again, if your weight reduction has affected the rear end more than the front end, you may be forced to have more of a front-biased ratio for ride quality anyway...

Do you have any way to tell how much your weight reduction affected the rear vs. the front?
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Do you have any way to tell how much your weight reduction affected the rear vs. the front?
Hmm...well, major reduction for the front is the A/C system, and the back are the spare and jack. All other reduction stuff is fairly minor add probably add up to 30 or so pounds on front and back. I'm pretty sure that the reduction is FAIRLY even front/back. I can't say this for sure but that would be my guess.
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Originally Posted by d00df00d
Yes, dropping 2 kg/mm all around will make a big difference in ride quality. That will bring you down to 7 front, 4 rear. For reference, 4 kg/mm is damn near stock for the rear....

Picking spring rates is complicated, though. With 9/6 springs, your front springs are 50% stiffer than your rears. With 7/4, your fronts are 75% stiffer. That means you'll probably have even more of an understeer bias with 7/4 than with 9/6.

Then again, if your weight reduction has affected the rear end more than the front end, you may be forced to have more of a front-biased ratio for ride quality anyway...

Do you have any way to tell how much your weight reduction affected the rear vs. the front?
Handling is VERY important to me, because this is the reason why i got these things, not the ability to slam, hell, i have them set all the way up which is just like most aftermarket springs. You're saying my handling will be affected in a negative way if i drop down 2kg on each corner. I've been battling with understeer ever since i got these things, and i really wouldnt want to have MORE. Maybe if i drop to 7kg in front and 5kg back? Will this still be a huge improvement in quality, without killing my handling?
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I'd bet all of that probably adds up to around 100 lbs. That's not nearly enough to warrant dropping down by 2 kg/mm all around, IMO. You'll run out of suspension travel really quickly. If I were you, I'd go with 8/5 or 7/5.

I'm not sure if Ksport offers a 5 kg/mm spring, but you can always get one from the ERS catalog. It'll probably be a better spring anyway...



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