Cross Floor Sway Bar
03-23-2007, 02:45 PM
#1
Cross Floor Sway Bar
Just ran across this design on ebay. Has anybody seen before? Any comments good or bad?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=200088954315
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=200088954315
03-23-2007, 04:17 PM
#2
omg brian....you are going to lose all the suspension respect you have around here 
it does nothing. Think about it...it essentially mounts to the side sills below the inside of the door....I really don't see how that can really help anything. After all, the two lower sills in that position don't really twist during cornering, at least not in a way that a single lateral bar would help. The only effective way of doing it is with at least a 4-point crossbrace (i.e. the way a stage 2 SFC does it).
btw, I have heard of people using these on Hondas, and almost all of them admit that they do squat.....but look nice.
it does nothing. Think about it...it essentially mounts to the side sills below the inside of the door....I really don't see how that can really help anything. After all, the two lower sills in that position don't really twist during cornering, at least not in a way that a single lateral bar would help. The only effective way of doing it is with at least a 4-point crossbrace (i.e. the way a stage 2 SFC does it).
btw, I have heard of people using these on Hondas, and almost all of them admit that they do squat.....but look nice.
03-23-2007, 04:42 PM
#3
Originally Posted by irish44j
omg brian....you are going to lose all the suspension respect you have around here
it does nothing. Think about it...it essentially mounts to the side sills below the inside of the door....I really don't see how that can really help anything. After all, the two lower sills in that position don't really twist during cornering, at least not in a way that a single lateral bar would help. The only effective way of doing it is with at least a 4-point crossbrace (i.e. the way a stage 2 SFC does it).
btw, I have heard of people using these on Hondas, and almost all of them admit that they do squat.....but look nice.
it does nothing. Think about it...it essentially mounts to the side sills below the inside of the door....I really don't see how that can really help anything. After all, the two lower sills in that position don't really twist during cornering, at least not in a way that a single lateral bar would help. The only effective way of doing it is with at least a 4-point crossbrace (i.e. the way a stage 2 SFC does it).
btw, I have heard of people using these on Hondas, and almost all of them admit that they do squat.....but look nice.
Yeah, BUT... "This product is used by all professional drift racers. "
Im sure it would help keep the chasis straighter when you smash into curbs sideways and also "The overall suspension and handling will increase by 15%. "
I say try it let us know how it works out
03-23-2007, 04:56 PM
#4
Originally Posted by gdmaxse
Yeah, BUT... "This product is used by all professional drift racers. "
03-24-2007, 07:37 AM
#5
HEY SOMEBODY GOT INTO MY ACCOUNT AND POSTED THAT. 
THAT THING IS WORTHLESS. IT'S BASICALLY A LETTER H FOR "HONDA" THAT CAN STILL TWIST EVERY DIRECTION. NOW TO FIND THAT OTHER EVIL BRIAN!!!
THAT THING IS WORTHLESS. IT'S BASICALLY A LETTER H FOR "HONDA" THAT CAN STILL TWIST EVERY DIRECTION. NOW TO FIND THAT OTHER EVIL BRIAN!!!
03-24-2007, 03:16 PM
#6
Originally Posted by BEJAY1
HEY SOMEBODY GOT INTO MY ACCOUNT AND POSTED THAT. THAT THING IS WORTHLESS. IT'S BASICALLY A LETTER H FOR "HONDA" THAT CAN STILL TWIST EVERY DIRECTION. NOW TO FIND THAT OTHER EVIL BRIAN!!!
THAT THING IS WORTHLESS. IT'S BASICALLY A LETTER H FOR "HONDA" THAT CAN STILL TWIST EVERY DIRECTION. NOW TO FIND THAT OTHER EVIL BRIAN!!!
03-25-2007, 05:50 PM
#8
Originally Posted by MorpheusZero
anything that improves suspension and handling by 15% is good by me. It can also stiffen the center of gravity. 
03-26-2007, 05:00 AM
#11
1. It's not a sway bar. It's structural reinforcement.
2. Whether or not it does anything depends GREATLY on the car, so you can't tell how it will work on our cars by how it works on other cars.
That goes double for Hondas -- most of the popular ones don't even get much out of full underbody X-bracing, let alone this kind of thing. Torsional stiffness in that part of the frame is not a big issue on those cars. Needless to say, you can't really compare a car like that to a 4th gen Maxima in terms of chassis flex...
2. Whether or not it does anything depends GREATLY on the car, so you can't tell how it will work on our cars by how it works on other cars.
That goes double for Hondas -- most of the popular ones don't even get much out of full underbody X-bracing, let alone this kind of thing. Torsional stiffness in that part of the frame is not a big issue on those cars. Needless to say, you can't really compare a car like that to a 4th gen Maxima in terms of chassis flex...
03-26-2007, 02:52 PM
#12
Originally Posted by d00df00d
1. It's not a sway bar. It's structural reinforcement.
2. Whether or not it does anything depends GREATLY on the car, so you can't tell how it will work on our cars by how it works on other cars.
That goes double for Hondas -- most of the popular ones don't even get much out of full underbody X-bracing, let alone this kind of thing. Torsional stiffness in that part of the frame is not a big issue on those cars. Needless to say, you can't really compare a car like that to a 4th gen Maxima in terms of chassis flex...
2. Whether or not it does anything depends GREATLY on the car, so you can't tell how it will work on our cars by how it works on other cars.
That goes double for Hondas -- most of the popular ones don't even get much out of full underbody X-bracing, let alone this kind of thing. Torsional stiffness in that part of the frame is not a big issue on those cars. Needless to say, you can't really compare a car like that to a 4th gen Maxima in terms of chassis flex...
03-26-2007, 03:07 PM
#13
Originally Posted by d00df00d
1. It's not a sway bar. It's structural reinforcement.
2. Whether or not it does anything depends GREATLY on the car, so you can't tell how it will work on our cars by how it works on other cars.
That goes double for Hondas -- most of the popular ones don't even get much out of full underbody X-bracing, let alone this kind of thing. Torsional stiffness in that part of the frame is not a big issue on those cars. Needless to say, you can't really compare a car like that to a 4th gen Maxima in terms of chassis flex...
2. Whether or not it does anything depends GREATLY on the car, so you can't tell how it will work on our cars by how it works on other cars.
That goes double for Hondas -- most of the popular ones don't even get much out of full underbody X-bracing, let alone this kind of thing. Torsional stiffness in that part of the frame is not a big issue on those cars. Needless to say, you can't really compare a car like that to a 4th gen Maxima in terms of chassis flex...
03-26-2007, 06:45 PM
#15
Originally Posted by LA02MAX
That's why BMW handles so well. Cuz that COG is stiff as hell!
03-26-2007, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by irish44j
the discussion is not that stiffer frame/subframes result in better handling. That is a fact. The argument is that the cross-floor POS brace will achieve that end to any noticeable degree (which it will not, in my opinion).
03-26-2007, 07:42 PM
#17
Originally Posted by LA02MAX
LOL! I was kidding! stiffer center of gravity??
03-26-2007, 11:41 PM
#18
Originally Posted by irish44j
the fact that this thread was started by Brian or his alter ego makes everything about this thread wierd.....even stiffer center of gravity
05-18-2007, 12:28 AM
#21
if you want to stiffen your chassis check out the org there is a new sub frame chassis stiffener in the group sales section or go to this site:http://www.mattblehm.com/suspension.htm#.
but clearly what you are looking at is not a anti sway bar.
i have the stillen anti sway bar and i have no complaints, you can also adjust the stillen asb to your lik
ing.
but clearly what you are looking at is not a anti sway bar.
i have the stillen anti sway bar and i have no complaints, you can also adjust the stillen asb to your lik
ing.
05-21-2007, 02:36 PM
#23
Originally Posted by Matt93SE
hahah
Thanks for posting the link to my site, but most of the guys in this thread have already bought that stuff from me.
Thanks for posting the link to my site, but most of the guys in this thread have already bought that stuff from me.
05-21-2007, 04:06 PM
#24
Originally Posted by sweetdaddygotu
if you want to stiffen your chassis check out the org there is a new sub frame chassis stiffener in the group sales section or go to this site:http://www.mattblehm.com/suspension.htm#.
but clearly what you are looking at is not a anti sway bar.
i have the stillen anti sway bar and i have no complaints, you can also adjust the stillen asb to your lik ing.
but clearly what you are looking at is not a anti sway bar.
i have the stillen anti sway bar and i have no complaints, you can also adjust the stillen asb to your lik
ing.
05-21-2007, 04:24 PM
#25
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Originally Posted by d00df00d
1. It's not a sway bar. It's structural reinforcement.
2. Whether or not it does anything depends GREATLY on the car, so you can't tell how it will work on our cars by how it works on other cars.
That goes double for Hondas -- most of the popular ones don't even get much out of full underbody X-bracing, let alone this kind of thing. Torsional stiffness in that part of the frame is not a big issue on those cars. Needless to say, you can't really compare a car like that to a 4th gen Maxima in terms of chassis flex...
2. Whether or not it does anything depends GREATLY on the car, so you can't tell how it will work on our cars by how it works on other cars.
That goes double for Hondas -- most of the popular ones don't even get much out of full underbody X-bracing, let alone this kind of thing. Torsional stiffness in that part of the frame is not a big issue on those cars. Needless to say, you can't really compare a car like that to a 4th gen Maxima in terms of chassis flex...
And I just wasted money on SFC's when I could have gotten this. I woulda been riding mad tight wit dat.
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