Ill effects of traction bars?
Ill effects of traction bars?
I've got a fairly torquey car so I ordered a set of traction bars from JClaw. Recently, I've been reading a few posts about their effect on alignment. Is it possible to prevent any adverse effects as I plan on having these on all the time?
Originally Posted by THT
I've got a fairly torquey car so I ordered a set of traction bars from JClaw. Recently, I've been reading a few posts about their effect on alignment. Is it possible to prevent any adverse effects as I plan on having these on all the time?
This way, the LCAs can't move when your tires are pulling them, but during normal driving, your alignment isn't changed. Mine have been on for a couple of years, and after I bent them to clear the oil filter and automatic transmission and installed them, I haven't touched them.
The only problem is tire rub with some tires when making tight turns - I have polished parts on both bars. These are JClaw's first-generation Jbars - I like 'em.....
Also, the car steers much better through the corners with them on...
Originally Posted by grey99max
I installed mine so that there was no pre-load on the bars. They are adjustable, so I set mine, after the LCA connections were tightened, so that the front mount bolts just slid into the holes.
This way, the LCAs can't move when your tires are pulling them, but during normal driving, your alignment isn't changed. Mine have been on for a couple of years, and after I bent them to clear the oil filter and automatic transmission and installed them, I haven't touched them.
The only problem is tire rub with some tires when making tight turns - I have polished parts on both bars. These are JClaw's first-generation Jbars - I like 'em.....
Also, the car steers much better through the corners with them on...
This way, the LCAs can't move when your tires are pulling them, but during normal driving, your alignment isn't changed. Mine have been on for a couple of years, and after I bent them to clear the oil filter and automatic transmission and installed them, I haven't touched them.
The only problem is tire rub with some tires when making tight turns - I have polished parts on both bars. These are JClaw's first-generation Jbars - I like 'em.....
Also, the car steers much better through the corners with them on...

They have to be adjusted with the front suspension loaded (for the length). Especially since the max is so front heavy. Ideally you take a car freshly out of the alignment shop, install everything except the end that connects to the front tow hook bracket, then when the suspension is loaded, you adjust the correct length equal on both sides since you know your alignment has just been done.
This even turns as an advantage on a badly aligned car. The VQ35 4.5 gen these were first tested on had a funny alignment, so I used the bars to correct the problem. A few more turns on the driver side, and the car went straight.
I realized just how much sense it made to have a link from the chassis (solid) to the LCA when I bought my S13: 240s come stock with similar bars, except they are heavy and only have one big mushy rubber link instead of two rod ends. I ripped them out and made two traction bars with 2 rod ends on both sides just like for the max. Only difference is that they are shorter, and that I cant really call them traction bars on a RWD car.
One of the many reason I am eager to drive it and see how the suspension reacts to all the changes Ive made.
Most people never had that problem (including me) but if I recall you have or had pretty wide tires on there...
This even turns as an advantage on a badly aligned car. The VQ35 4.5 gen these were first tested on had a funny alignment, so I used the bars to correct the problem. A few more turns on the driver side, and the car went straight.
I realized just how much sense it made to have a link from the chassis (solid) to the LCA when I bought my S13: 240s come stock with similar bars, except they are heavy and only have one big mushy rubber link instead of two rod ends. I ripped them out and made two traction bars with 2 rod ends on both sides just like for the max. Only difference is that they are shorter, and that I cant really call them traction bars on a RWD car.
One of the many reason I am eager to drive it and see how the suspension reacts to all the changes Ive made.
Originally Posted by grey99max
The only problem is tire rub with some tires when making tight turns - I have polished parts on both bars. These are JClaw's first-generation Jbars - I like 'em.....:
So you're saying, ideally, get an alignment and install rods on the LCAs while the suspension is unloaded (e.g. in the air) and then finalize the installation when the car is back on the ground?
I have no effects on my alingment due to the traction bars. I can see this being an issue to someone with shot control arm bushings, but if they are in good shape (or urethane in my case) you shouldnt have a problem at all with alignment.
My tires rub as well on the bars just before full lock turns, but its way at the end so its a negligable thing. I rock 235/45-17s
JClaw, those bars at the front of the 240, I believe they are called tension bars. For the ones you made.... "JTensionClaws"? lol j/k I love driving the car with the traction bars. Highway driving is amazing, turns are much more controlled.
My tires rub as well on the bars just before full lock turns, but its way at the end so its a negligable thing. I rock 235/45-17s
JClaw, those bars at the front of the 240, I believe they are called tension bars. For the ones you made.... "JTensionClaws"? lol j/k I love driving the car with the traction bars. Highway driving is amazing, turns are much more controlled.
Originally Posted by THT
So you're saying, ideally, get an alignment and install rods on the LCAs while the suspension is unloaded (e.g. in the air) and then finalize the installation when the car is back on the ground?
The install is so simple in fact, towards the end I could do it without even jacking the car. I simply turned the wheels all the way to one side, then the other.
Originally Posted by 95BLKMAX
My tires rub as well on the bars just before full lock turns, but its way at the end so its a negligable thing. I rock 235/45-17s
Originally Posted by 95BLKMAX
JClaw, those bars at the front of the 240, I believe they are called tension bars. For the ones you made.... "JTensionClaws"? lol j/k I love driving the car with the traction bars. Highway driving is amazing, turns are much more controlled.
Originally Posted by JClaw
Yeah those are pretty wide. Most never go past 225 on the front of a max. The front fender wells are made for 205s stock.
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