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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 07:44 PM
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Very reasonable. I'd actually bet on it.

It's really hard (read: expensive) to make an adjuster that has no crosstalk between rebound and compression. For perspective, Koni Yellows are the cheapest dampers that even come close, and they are twin-tube which makes it a lot easier.

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Old Jan 31, 2008 | 05:55 PM
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Hey bro,

Long time no see.

I lowered my car on Nex Coilovers back in mid November, and have put on about 6K miles on some of the worst roads in NYC.

Obviously for $700 my car won't ride and handle like an M5. It doesn't help that the Maxima chassis is similar to boiled pasta in stock form. BUT, after some usage they ride decently, even on a cold day w/o warming up. And they handle pretty well too; very neutral and predictable. If I had one complaint, it would be maybe that the rear springs are TOO soft...

But the ride is def. more confidence inspiring than stock, which to me makes for more comfort. Though, I have developed a creak in the rear left corner over bumps. No biggies though.

K-sports blow, BC's are expensive... Nex's are OK. People on other cars have them and like them; I know people with Hondas who have had sets for over 2 years w/o incident. Granted, the strut config in front makes for more shock travel motions over bumps, which doesn't help life, but that's neither here nor there.

Here you have an honest review from a fellow (mech) engineer. I put them in and haven't had to touch them since mid November... though I do wanna drop the front a little more, I'm happy. Going for a drive now, actually.

Nex Coilovers.
Old Jan 31, 2008 | 09:00 PM
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Hey, man. Glad you found something you like.

Just to add to what you said, the biggest reason MacPherson strut front suspensions are more stressful on dampers is that they cause a LOT of twisting and lateral forces on the struts.
Old Feb 1, 2008 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by d00df00d
Hey, man. Glad you found something you like.

Just to add to what you said, the biggest reason MacPherson strut front suspensions are more stressful on dampers is that they cause a LOT of twisting and lateral forces on the struts.
Agreed. But there are parts to help solve that too
Old Feb 2, 2008 | 08:47 AM
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What are those and how do they work?
Old Feb 2, 2008 | 04:42 PM
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Look like a metal strut bearing(turd gens have those too i thinks)
Old Feb 3, 2008 | 06:03 AM
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It's a ring made of two parts that spin freely. It sits between the spring and top hat, or between the spring and spring perch, to let the whole assembly twist more freely. It'll alleviate a lot of the twisting forces on a MacPherson strut suspension (but NOT the side loading).
Old Feb 3, 2008 | 06:20 AM
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Correct. The metal strut bearings are made using needle bearings. This is my second set (first set looked just like the OEM plastic bearning). They remove all twisting/turning pressure and work especially well with sphericals/pillowball mounts. Ground Control uses something nearly identical.

The other is Hypercoil's hydraulic spring perch. I don't own them as they won't stand up to daily driving dirt and grime. They reduce nearly all lateral loads and shock bending. More than you'd want to know here...http://www.hypercoils.com/Products/H...ata-Sheet.aspx
Old Feb 3, 2008 | 11:13 AM
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Yeah I would like to get a set of Boss Chens but doesn't look like that is happening. But looking at the Progress ones.
Old Feb 3, 2008 | 06:29 PM
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Thanks for the info...I don't see the metal strut bearings on Hypercoil's site. So they just move more freely than the plastic stock ones? I have a hard time seeing how the plastic ones can inhibit rotation of the strut assembly that much, but OK. Would the metal bearings eliminate the minor clicking I get when I turn the wheel at below 5 MPH?
Old Feb 3, 2008 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BEJAY1
The other is Hypercoil's hydraulic spring perch. I don't own them as they won't stand up to daily driving dirt and grime. They reduce nearly all lateral loads and shock bending. More than you'd want to know here...http://www.hypercoils.com/Products/H...ata-Sheet.aspx
I can see that reducing lateral load due to the spring. However, in a MacPherson strut suspension, there is also side loading that is simply due to the fact that the strut is a load bearing structure and is mounted at an angle. No trick spring perch will solve that...
Old Mar 5, 2008 | 01:58 PM
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ive been using the kybs and gc's for nearly 4yrs and i have never had an issue. I have put something like 60k-80k miles on them and I have nothing but good things to say about them.

i think my shocks are going bad but thats understandable after so many years and winters of using these. and i think the newly found noise issue is also related to the weak shocks. if anything i might just buy another set of gc's and kybs and keep them for another 4yrs
Old Jul 22, 2008 | 03:41 PM
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Seeing that the Progress Cattman coilovers have been sold out for 3 months now. I am curious to see more reviews on them and the Nex Gen.

And also the Bor-Chunn Coilovers..
Old Jul 22, 2008 | 07:57 PM
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Just an update on my Nexx SS coilovers (copied from a PM, names removed to protect the innocent)

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How are they holding up?
Good, not great... got a little clicking noise on my right front corner, but it feels more like a lower balljoint than the coilovers (I am getting weird camber issues at that corner as well). Damping strength has held up (esp. over NYCs awful streets) but over time it's become apparent to me the shocks are meant for a lighter car; low speed damping has always been kinda sloppy and the rear springs are too soft (maybe for safety)...

Other than that can't complain really for the price. I'm looking to get out of the Maxima game soon so I might be putting them up for sale. I would buy them again (probably will for my next car) and recommend them to family
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