1995 Fpr
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1995 Fpr
Is it possible to run the 1995 FPR (Fuel Pressure Regulator) with the VQ35 Injectors and Fuel Rail? I assume it's at 3.0 bar like all the others so it should do the same job as the De-K or VQ35 FPR, right?
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I *think* the 1995 FPR, like the 2000-2001 FPR, is located at the end of the fuel rail. The pipe "passes through" the FPR and goes back to the fuel tank.
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Here is what Nismo is doing (3.5 Rail with 2000-2001 FPR):

How do you run a returnless? You can't just seal off the end of the fuel rail, you need an FPR somewhere. Like you said 3.5 FPR is somewhere in the tank so I need another option.

How do you run a returnless? You can't just seal off the end of the fuel rail, you need an FPR somewhere. Like you said 3.5 FPR is somewhere in the tank so I need another option.
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Originally Posted by JClaw
Here is what Nismo is doing (3.5 Rail with 2000-2001 FPR):

How do you run a returnless? You can't just seal off the end of the fuel rail, you need an FPR somewhere. Like you said 3.5 FPR is somewhere in the tank so I need another option.

How do you run a returnless? You can't just seal off the end of the fuel rail, you need an FPR somewhere. Like you said 3.5 FPR is somewhere in the tank so I need another option.
i am using the 3.5 fuel rail and that whole system is returnless system so there is only 1 fuel line comming from the tank and it goes into the fuel rail. what i did with the other line that return to the tank on a 4th gen is i plugged it up so nothing would get into the line and into the tank.
Originally Posted by vsamoylov
well i know that the 2k2 fpr is in the fuel pump assembly but where is it located on a 4th gen? i havea spare 2k2 fuel pump assembly that i am goign to put into my tank. i know that they idle at 51 psi.
Originally Posted by vsamoylov
i am using the 3.5 fuel rail and that whole system is returnless system so there is only 1 fuel line comming from the tank and it goes into the fuel rail. what i did with the other line that return to the tank on a 4th gen is i plugged it up so nothing would get into the line and into the tank.
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Originally Posted by Nismo3112
I don't understand how your car is running right without an FPR??
It's running because the VQ35 ECU is programmed for 3.5bar and he's probably seeing just over 4bar or whatever the stock fuel pump SAFETY bypass opens at, which just means he's a bit rich during open-loop.
Running with the bypass open is not good for fuel pump life and fuel volume is going to vary, which is a concern if boosted but probably not for stock NA.
Running with the bypass open is not good for fuel pump life and fuel volume is going to vary, which is a concern if boosted but probably not for stock NA.
Originally Posted by IceY2K1
It's running because the VQ35 ECU is programmed for 3.5bar and he's probably seeing just over 4bar or whatever the stock fuel pump SAFETY bypass opens at, which just means he's a bit rich during open-loop.
Running with the bypass open is not good for fuel pump life and fuel volume is going to vary, which is a concern if boosted but probably not for stock NA.
Running with the bypass open is not good for fuel pump life and fuel volume is going to vary, which is a concern if boosted but probably not for stock NA.
Originally Posted by IceY2K1
You'll be in the ballpark, I guess, but I would want to be able to adjust base fuel pressure up(get Walbro) or down and adjust AFC settings for fine tuning.
WOT is open loop....closed loop is where the ECU uses 02-sensor feedback.
Yes, during closed loop, ie warmed up and light throttle, the ECU will target stoich. However, that doesn't mean AFR won't be lean without a bigger injector or more fuel pressure to compensate for the 0.5L displacement bump.
Yes, during closed loop, ie warmed up and light throttle, the ECU will target stoich. However, that doesn't mean AFR won't be lean without a bigger injector or more fuel pressure to compensate for the 0.5L displacement bump.
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
Yes, during closed loop, ie warmed up and light throttle, the ECU will target stoich. However, that doesn't mean AFR won't be lean without a bigger injector or more fuel pressure to compensate for the 0.5L displacement bump.
Different fuel setups guesstimate of supportable peak wheel horsepower....
Using 290cc DEK injectors and 3bar fuel pressure aka Nismo3112:
225whp@80%DC
281whp@100%DC
Using 270cc 5.5gen injectors and 3bar fuel pressure aka JClaw:
210whp@80%DC
262whp@100%DC
I'd have no problems pushing NA injectors to 90% DC, even a bit beyond. I think you guys will be fine with just an AFC for tuning open-loop.
Using 290cc DEK injectors and 3bar fuel pressure aka Nismo3112:
225whp@80%DC
281whp@100%DC
Using 270cc 5.5gen injectors and 3bar fuel pressure aka JClaw:
210whp@80%DC
262whp@100%DC
I'd have no problems pushing NA injectors to 90% DC, even a bit beyond. I think you guys will be fine with just an AFC for tuning open-loop.
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you don't have an fpr?
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