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Old 05-03-2005, 07:43 PM
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VI swap misc question

What did you folks do about the PCV valve? Remove along w/ the EGR? 90 degree elbow & where did you find one? Is there a shorter non-vehicle specific one that will fit?

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read up on it the answer to that question is everywhere
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I used some sort of rubber elbow that I found in my basement, and a straight PCV valve from another car, I just picked one and used it.
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Old 05-03-2005, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Nismo3112
and a straight PCV valve from another car, I just picked one and used it.
Thats what I did exact could not find a elbow so I used a big hose in place of a elbow. And I will try and get a pic for you so you can see what I did about my FPR unless you were going to make a trip up to louisville.
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Yeah man, I need to head over your way and check that thing out. I keep putting off the install... I'm looking at the Memorial weekend now. Finally got everything I need (I think). Hopefully my brother has the EGR plate fabbed up so I can do away with it & the PCV.
I'll bring my camera when I come down. Think I still have your #

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Here are the pics of my fuel set up.



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Originally Posted by SDot82
Here are the pics of my fuel set up.

Where did you get that fuel fitting on the front bank side of the rail?!?! I need one of those!
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Old 05-06-2005, 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Nismo3112
Where did you get that fuel fitting on the front bank side of the rail?!?! I need one of those!
I was gonna ask the same thing... guess I just did.


What was up with your recent start-up troubles?
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Old 05-06-2005, 02:20 PM
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That fitting came off the fuel rail I just modified it (cut it and bent into place), but my fuel rail came from a 2001 QX4. I got kinda lucky there. And I will find out about the start up prob here in a couple of days since it will finally be hot again. I fixed all the problems, map sensor/valve amd knock senor.
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Well, even if both part of vi (lim and upper) are used, and you have 4th gen rear valve cover, this should be done:http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...77_23_full.jpg
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Originally Posted by maxS
Well, even if both part of vi (lim and upper) are used, and you have 4th gen rear valve cover, this should be done:http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...77_23_full.jpg
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I didn't do that.
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I didn't do that.
and what did you do exactly? you have pics of your setup?
 
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Originally Posted by vsamoylov
and what did you do exactly? you have pics of your setup?
I wanna know 2....
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Old 05-21-2005, 07:36 AM
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Lower im installed

Fuel setup

And I just put the upper IM on it w/o modifying vavle cover or coil pakcs.
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Kev the throttle cable looks kind of awkward...is it ok?
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That was the first day of the swap, now it is fixed




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Old 05-22-2005, 09:12 AM
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I have one question Theres something on the 00vi that isint on the 4gen im.
as I point out in this pic

What is that and what do you connect to it?
If the photobuket pic doesnt work
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That is what open and closes the VI rod. It has a built in selonoid and you have to feed ti a vaccum source as well as a 12v/ground to turn it on and off.
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a vac from the intake right? If it is on the intake does the vac source have to be behind the maf, or placed behind the filter?
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Behind the Maf, on the Midpipe.
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Old 05-22-2005, 12:06 PM
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kevlo, so the connectors for the iacv are just dangling there in the engine bay? any codes? and that is a huge adapter for the tb. lol.
 
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No, IACV is connected.
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Given the title of the thread I hope nobody will mind if I ask a few misc. questions of my own.

1) Adjustable FPR to account for larger injectors--I've seen some suggest that this will be necessary, but also that it may not be if using a 4th gen IACV. What does everyone think?

2) In krismax's original thread he speculated that if the swap was done on a car with stock motor mounts there could be clearance problems with the hood because of the increased movement. Has anybody with stock motormounts done the swap?

That's it for now...I'm sure I'll think of a few more later .

Thanks for indulging my newbness.
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1. You do not need an adjustable FPR, for me the stock ECU combined with the 5th gen fuel rail/injectors/fpr is running fine. Also I don;t know how the FPR and the IACV go together?
2. I have the stock mounts and no clearence issues what so ever.
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
1. You do not need an adjustable FPR, for me the stock ECU combined with the 5th gen fuel rail/injectors/fpr is running fine. Also I don;t know how the FPR and the IACV go together?
2. I have the stock mounts and no clearence issues what so ever.
Great. I like those answers.

On 1, I got that from a discussion between Icey2k1 (I think...the mod with the walking penney) and BSwithTF...BS was having problems with startup and Icey suggested that it might be because the car dumps alot of fuel at startup (and even more with the larger injectors). I think the thing with the IACV was that it would normally compensate by allowing more air as well, but BS is using a 5th gen IACV.
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Interesting, that might be true. I cannot say because I am using the 4th gen IACV. You can always tighten the throttle cable to it opens the TB slightly. That should raise the idle some and might fix the hard start.
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I want to use the 4th gen IACV anyway, just wasn't sure if something still had to be done about the larger injectors.

I know when krismax first did this he had problems with overheating which he fixed with a lower temp thermostat. Was that just something with his car (I think it had a busted head gasket and some other problems) or have the other people had to do it to? What thermostat are people using?
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His car had many problems before he installed the 00vi. I have yet to install my lower temp t-stat and I have no overheating problems in hte 90+ degree FL heat.
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So your temp gauge doesn't go above half?

Another thing I won't have to do
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Nope mine stays below half, and I am goign to run 25% Toyota Red Coolant and 75% water, with one bottle of water wetter

After that the car should stay rather cool. Even on the drive to Maxus and I am sure that will be the real test
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Where you guys getting a lower temp thermostat?
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
His car had many problems before he installed the 00vi. I have yet to install my lower temp t-stat and I have no overheating problems in hte 90+ degree FL heat.
Where'd you get your lower temp t-stat from Kev? How much? At what temp does it open? I've been thinking of picking one up too but haven't looked into it yet...

EDIT: haha just beat me to the question...
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I made one

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=300518
Jime's how to is in that thread.
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
I made one

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=300518
Jime's how to is in that thread.
Cool. Thanks!
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So you DO have a lower temp t-stat? One you made using Jime's how-to?
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I made one and it is sitting in my room. I need to install but I am lazy
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Oh ok. So you've made one and have it sitting in your room, but still haven't had an overheating problem. Cool.

Time for more questions now

Has anybody done the swap and kept the stock/hacked intake? I don't really want to get a CAI and I believe the other options have actually shown a power LOSS.

With the Vsamylov/maxS adapter plates I would have a couple of options. You get the 4th IACV plate and either a plate to block off the 5th gen IACV and use the 5th gen TB or an adapter for the 4th gen TB. Has anybody put on a swap using their plates yet?

Who has kept the 5th gen TB? What diameter is it? Any problems with it and the throttle cables? Any advantages over using a 4th gen TB and adapter?

Kevlo, Could you go into more detail about how you rigged up the EGR system? I think I'm going to have to use it for emissions reasons.
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All you have to do to keep the EGR working is buy the 00 EGR guide tube that goes from the EGR valve to the 00VI. It replaces the 4th gen guide tube and bolts right up no problems.
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Just make sure you get a 2000 Fed-spec intake manifold for the EGR tube to bolt up. Late 2000s and all 2001s don't have an EGR tube.
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
Just make sure you get a 2000 Fed-spec intake manifold for the EGR tube to bolt up. Late 2000s and all 2001s don't have an EGR tube.
Yes, Ice's right. Sorry I forgot to mention that. According to Nissan FAST anything up to 06/00 you're fine.
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