Excuse my intrusion but can anyone explain why the late 00s and all 01s dont have an EGR guide tube? Do they jus not have an EGR system altogether or does their's work differently?

 

I think their cams allow for some exhaust to return to the combustion chamber so they don't need a conventional EGR system.

 

???? You sure about this? The reason I ask is that I've had four 5th gen intake manifolds in my hands and they all had provisions for the egr tube, and I know at least one of them was a 2001.

 

I'll double check, but as far as I could tell mine doesn't have the EGR tube entering below/behind the TB like the 2000 Fed spec intake I've played around with.

It could just be a block off plate on non-EGR manifolds? Or are you saying the 2001 had the EGR tube?

 

00Cali and 01 Had a block off plate inplace of hte EGR GUide tube plate.


I used hte 00EGR guide tube inplace of my 4th gen guie tube. That is the only thing I changed for the EGR, it is an 30-40min swap. I also cleaned out the Big EGR tube that goes to the header. I do not like useing the aftermarket midpipe. I am looking for an 00+midpipe. I am positive you can use the stock intake, but you will most likely need a custom coupling for the MAF adapter to midpipe so you can shorten/lenthen the size.

 

That explains it.

 

Can anyone confirm this? If so, it answers my question thanx.
And so does this:

 

Anybody know if the 4th and 5th gen TPS's are the same? That is, if I use a 5th gen TB will I be able to plug my connectors right into it?

 

yeap, both those

 

Would it be a bad idea to use a connector such as this rather than soldering the injectors? This would be primarily so that the process would be more easily reversable, but also because I'm not much good at soldering (I'll d@mn well get better if I have to though).

On a similar note...is there an injector harness that can be unplugged from the rest of the wiring harness or is the entire harness integrated?

 

^^ the rear 3 injector plugs can be unplugged from the engine harness.

 

So for those I could could just get an extra 4th gen set and attach 5th gen injector plugs. You're sure the front 3 don't unplug from the harness anywhere? It seems odd that the rears could while the fronts can't.

 

Nope. Only the rears disconnect.

 

???
The 5th gen plugs won't fit on the 4th gen injectors if that's what you mean.

 

No. I meant get an extra 4th gen injector harness for the rear 3 and cut it and attach the 5th gen plug so that it would be plug and play when I got in there and so it would be easily reversible if need be. I wish the front was like that too.

 

I'm not sure about the cams/overlap being different, however in the cali spec 2000s and all 2001s that don't have EGR, Nissan used swirl valves in the lower intake manifold right before the heads.

Per FSM:
I also believe this is the root cause of the annoying whistling sound my engine makes below 3,200rpm.

 

Thanks much IceY! May I ask the source of that info? I'm jus curious cuz I never seem to be able to find such in-depth information about our engines anywhere, and I'm constantly searching for it.
Does anyone know the website for the FSM online?

 

I know this has been beat to death already but I jus wanna be CERTAIN that I understand this correctly before I do it. There's been soooo many side problems and issues w/ this mod that I'm unsure if what I currently understand about this swap is still relevant. Kudos to anyone that can explain this yet once more, and not flame the newb. lol
I wanna retrofit the 5th gen VI onto my 96 Max and I wanna make sure I know what parts I'll need for my setup.
I wanna use the 5th gen tb, iacv & egr equip, upper and lower manifolds, fuel rails and injectors. Do I only need these parts, a Summit rpm switch and the necessary tools for the install to make this work? Or am I goin to need misc. adapters and spare parts?
Rest assured, if the answers are clearly explained, this will be the last time I will ask these questions. Much thanks to anyone who contributes!!!

 

For reference, one of the side problems I was referring to was whether or not I'd have to grind down the coil pack mounts of cylinders 4 and 6. Comments?

 

Keep in mind I am no expert on this subject.

From what I understand the grinding down the coil pack mounts is only necessary when using a 4th gen lower.

I believe that using a 4th gen IACV would be a better option especially given the availability of adapter plates for remote mounting (from both maxS/vysamolov and Stephen Max).

I don't think anyone has yet used a full 5th gen EGR system. Everyone has either not used it (probably the way to go as--correct me if I'm wrong--FL does't have emmissions testing) or use the 4th gen EGR with the 5th gen EGR guide tube.

 

99-00Have same EGR system so I am pretty sure 99's can use a full 00 setup with hte least amount of problems.

BTW, Terran--I sold the TB a few hours after you PM'ed me.

 

Ok. Thanks for letting me know.

 

Not so...

http://www.forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=401913

...see post #'s 16-20

 

Who are chris and Joe? Or more importantly what year are their cars? Both people who used the 00 LIM and had clearance issues had '98s. Could it be that the earlier 4th gens are slightly different? What else could cause this different.

I guess either way this is an eventuallity I should prepare for...how do you grind down the bosses? Would a dremel with one of those stone grinding wheels do the trick? Also have you had any problems only having one place to attach the coil pack?

 

Krismax - 96
98SEBlackMax - 96
Me - 97

We all used the 5th gen upper and lower also used the 00EGR guide tube.

 

I had to grind my coil's and part of the coil holder. (Cyl. 3 and 5)

 

Credit: TimW
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....ighlight=cheap

 

I would recommend this for ease of installation.

 

That's pretty cool. I think I might go for it. I'll download for 1995, 2000 and 03 frontier (dads car)...anything else I'll likely want?

How big are these files? I still have dial-up ...would I be able to do this in a day?

 

IIRC the files are only about 85mb so you should be able to pull em in a day.
They are .pdfs so you'll need acrobat reader too.

 

I have that. 85mb for the whole fsm or for each chapter or something? Thanks.

 

The 4th gen FSM's will not be more than 40mb each. That is for the entire FSM.

 

I couldn't tell ya, since I haven't downloaded from that site yet, just passing on the info.

I'd get the TSBs/recalls also.

Also, if you see a VQ40 FSM and don't mind, download that badboy.

 

I'm gonna wait 'til I have a FULL day to devote to this without anything to do the next day incase I have to stay up all night ...I hate dial-up.

What car would have a VQ40?

 

If you have dialup...download GetRight or one of the other download manager programs incase you get cutoff, you don't have to start over.

The 2005 Frontier and Xterra have the VQ40.

 

Where would I download that? I really don't get cutoff often (not sure it's ever happened), but that would suck.

 

http://www.getright.com/

 

That makes sense i guess

I found it a few minutes ago

 

So if I have a whole 00 Engine with all manifolds, TB....etc to my avail, what would be the easiest route to accomplish the swap.

What adaptor plates would I need. What TB should I go with? And what IACV should I go with? Will the car's idle.... etc be the same as stock, or will it be slightly higher to keep it running smooth. Please no flaming, I've done plenty of reading, and am just a little un-clear about which would be the easiest setup.

Thanks

 

What kind of effect would mileage have on the IM and fuel injectors/rail? What kind of mileage would you say I should make the max for the donor car?