Weird VI swap issues
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From: Lexington, KY
Weird VI swap issues
Well after a long weekend I finally managed to install the VI, remove EGR and use the A33 TB & IACV. Started it up yesterday and no codes, idles fine, but if I give it steady partial throttle, it will rev to about 2k them bog, dip to 1500 then back up to 2k & continues, all the while keeping throttle steady. I can floor it, it will tach up to a high RPM, then bog like it's not getting good fuel flow.
I double checked all my vacuum lines & confirmed via 98 FSM diagram. Plugged the vacuum line for the EGRC since it's not needed for the selenoid anymore. I figure since it idles fine then the vacuum lines or the AICV shouldn't be an issue. I still have the fuel damper connected and the vacuum line for that is "T"d off the FPR line running up to the TB. Could I have a bad damper or FPR? Maybe a problem with the MAP/Baro switch?
The car is an hour away so I won't get to work on it again till next weekend, but I'd like to get it lined out before I head back up there.
Thanks
I double checked all my vacuum lines & confirmed via 98 FSM diagram. Plugged the vacuum line for the EGRC since it's not needed for the selenoid anymore. I figure since it idles fine then the vacuum lines or the AICV shouldn't be an issue. I still have the fuel damper connected and the vacuum line for that is "T"d off the FPR line running up to the TB. Could I have a bad damper or FPR? Maybe a problem with the MAP/Baro switch?
The car is an hour away so I won't get to work on it again till next weekend, but I'd like to get it lined out before I head back up there.
Thanks
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
Where did you put the 2 grounds on the lower IM?
If you are going to do it next weekend or head down like friday because I get off early 1:00 PM I could come to your car and we could check my car with you car to see if anything is out of place. I should have another phone by tonight. so just post what you want to do.
I had this EXACT same problem. I had exactly everyone of your symptoms. It has nothing to do with your fuel... But it was on my 3.5 with my ghetto rigged TB..
I launched it at the track, and and the throttle position sensor slipped off.
Check your TPS, and see if it is turning with the butterfly plate.
I launched it at the track, and and the throttle position sensor slipped off.
Check your TPS, and see if it is turning with the butterfly plate.
Originally Posted by Nismo3112
I had this EXACT same problem. I had exactly everyone of your symptoms. It has nothing to do with your fuel... But it was on my 3.5 with my ghetto rigged TB..
I launched it at the track, and and the throttle position sensor slipped off.
Check your TPS, and see if it is turning with the butterfly plate.
I launched it at the track, and and the throttle position sensor slipped off.
Check your TPS, and see if it is turning with the butterfly plate.
Thats what I was thinking, if his TPS was messed up some how but was not for sure.
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Well I loosened and turned that whole TP sensor/switch control and the idle went up so I imagine that would be OK? The sensor is the top plug and the switch is the bottom correct, no way to mix the plugs. They are the same on both the 4th & 5th gen, well they had the same part number. I used the TPS from my 4th gen since the plug sockets were broken off the one for the 5th gen.
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hmmm, the TPS that came with the 00 TB had the plug connectors broken off so I replaced it w/ the one from my 98 TB. They had the same numbers on 'em. I guess it was really a TPS from a 4th gen or the #s match both gens?
Edit:
97-99 TPS = 22620-4M510
00-01 TPS = 22620-4M511
Edit:
97-99 TPS = 22620-4M510
00-01 TPS = 22620-4M511
Hmmmm, my car does this when its cold, I can push up the throttle and hold it and the revs will bog around, after I drive around a little it tends to go away, I still have some sort of vacuum leak somewhere because I can hear it... Hmmmm, Im gonna go outside later and see if it does it...
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I wish I could drive mine around, it's so bad I can't even get it out of the garage. Will not stay over 2000 RPM, it's like the fuel cuts out.
So if not the TPS, which I'm not sure it is anymore, then bad FPR?
So if not the TPS, which I'm not sure it is anymore, then bad FPR?
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The TPS is slotted to allow some adjustment and from what I remember it is sorta "spring loaded" inside. Could it be that it needs to be put on then twisted till it lines up w/ the screw holes? Am I way off... I can't remember what it looks like when it's removed?
I appreciate everyone's input/thoughts so far.
I appreciate everyone's input/thoughts so far.
Originally Posted by jmeister
The TPS is slotted to allow some adjustment and from what I remember it is sorta "spring loaded" inside. Could it be that it needs to be put on then twisted till it lines up w/ the screw holes? Am I way off... I can't remember what it looks like when it's removed?
I appreciate everyone's input/thoughts so far.
I appreciate everyone's input/thoughts so far.
Originally Posted by $tillenmax2k
You could just put the proper VI on there and run trouble free. I don't even like the pos plastic manifold, and it came stock on my car!
Yeah smart and then he would have to spend another $400 for a ECU upgrade to even see good gains with the MEVI.
Originally Posted by $tillenmax2k
You could just put the proper VI on there and run trouble free. I don't even like the pos plastic manifold, and it came stock on my car!
Originally Posted by $tillenmax2k
You could just put the proper VI on there and run trouble free. I don't even like the pos plastic manifold, and it came stock on my car!
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Originally Posted by Nismo3112
It has to be your TPS somehow... My symptoms were 200% identical to yours.
But she's up & running strong, now I gotta figure out the VIAS and I'm good to go.
Thanks gang
This site has been the cure (and cause) of many a headache.
pwned by the TPS!
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Originally Posted by s0ber
Awesome man, so me and you had the same problem, damn that TPS...
How does it feel?
How does it feel?
Originally Posted by jmeister
Feels good, but that could be from driving 2 different slow a$$ cars for the last week. I can tell I'm getting better gas mileage already. Drove for about an hour coming home on I75, the 80-120 kicks seemed a little slower but the VIAS isn't connected yet so I dunno. Hell, the better MPG alone was worth it.
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I'm lost are you all talking about the actual unit or the plugs?
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