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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 02:32 PM
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Also IIRC no one with a 4th gen has been able to directly advance timing with E-manage

That is a very good point that I overlooked. Emanage can retard timing, but can't advance it. That right there makes this much better for NA applications at least.

I wasn't insinuating that this is an less capable (I'm positive its more capable) than a JWT or TS reflash. The point I was trying to make was that lots of people who I know on here already have TS or JWT ECUs were talking about getting this as well, and in conjunction with a JWT or TS ECU which already HAS advanced timing and altered fuel maps, the gains would not be nearly as significant as their original installation of the JWT/TS, or if they were to install the SMT without an aftermarket ECU. The gains of either unit (JWT/TS) or SMT alone, say 15hp, is not indicative of the gains that you would get if you used them together. Meaning if each one is good for 15hp by themselves, you wouldn't get 30hp by installing both of them. That was the point I was making because it seemed like some people were thinking it would work like that. That was the impression I got from their posts anyways.
Old Jun 6, 2005 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 98SEBlackMax
SMT-6 gains !!!
Have you found us a good source and price on the SMT7s? When I finally get one I can start work on our discussed project.
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 04:42 AM
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 02:15 PM
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it appears his peak hp is still to be seen at fuel cutoff i believe its still going up at 6500 and he has no aftermarket cams
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 02:24 PM
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What mods does he have?
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 03:26 PM
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 98SEBlackMax
Apexi intake with franken car midpipe (possible mid range killer gonna try stock 5th gen midpipe in future)
ported DEK manifold with 70 mm pathy TB
warpspeed y pipe
test pipe
dented custom B pipe ( wonder if that hurts my power at all)
stillen muffler
12 am homemade grounding kit (put together last night with scraps of 14 gauge wire I had lying around)

oh and SMT-6
forgot light weight flywheel
Old Jun 7, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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I know theres some knowledgable people in this thread so hopefully I can throw out this question and get some responses. Is there any reason that an smt6 woudlnt work on a 6th gen? Nobody has one so im wondering if it will wire up ok and stuff. I might order one eventually and have it tuned.
Old Jun 9, 2005 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
Have you found us a good source and price on the SMT7s? When I finally get one I can start work on our discussed project.
I have a source for SMT-7s but they wont work on the 5th/6th gens because of the CVTC cam sensor signals... In order to advance timing a great deal on a 2k2 ECU is to advance the crank and BOTH cam sensor signals. The SMT-7 is only capable of advancing two cam/crank signals, not to mention the cam signal is overly complex. So far the only Maximas that the SMT-7 can be applied to are the '95~'01s.

Also when shops say they can install a SMT-6 on the newer Altima, Maxima, or 350Zs this is BS. They can only advance timing 2 degrees, this is the same as getting your timing advanced with the Consult-2. Anymore advance and it will throw a code. A SAFC A/F tune and a consult timing advance has the same effect.
Old Jun 9, 2005 | 12:20 PM
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so where can I pick up an SMT-7 from? I'd like to get one of these so I can have an N/A tune and a nitrous tune.
Old Jun 9, 2005 | 04:13 PM
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What's the price on a SMT7?

Just wondering because the "Ultimate eManage" should be out soon.
Old Jun 9, 2005 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
What's the price on a SMT7?

Just wondering because the "Ultimate eManage" should be out soon.
the smt 7 is around $400.


What does the "Ultimate eManage" have as features?
Old Jun 9, 2005 | 04:28 PM
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Speculation so far, but from the bits-n-pieces I've found at least some applications can modify the rev-limiter, MAF to MAP, logging, and some other improvements. Looks like it will include the Support Tool also.

http://www.mohdparts.com/emanage/tmp...age/index.html

Translated Japanese page:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babel....html&lp=ja_en
Old Jun 9, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
Speculation so far, but from the bits-n-pieces I've found at least some applications can modify the rev-limiter, MAF to MAP, logging, and some other improvements.

http://www.mohdparts.com/emanage/tmp...age/index.html

Translated Japanese page:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babel....html&lp=ja_en


interesting. I wonder how much that thing is going to cost. I would still like to know where I can pick an SMT-7 up from. I'll sell my TS ECU for this thing so that I don't have to swap ECUs everytime I run the nitrous.
Old Jun 10, 2005 | 12:18 PM
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interesting. I wonder how much that thing is going to cost. I would still like to know where I can pick an SMT-7 up from. I'll sell my TS ECU for this thing so that I don't have to swap ECUs everytime I run the nitrous.

so yea, i'm gonna bump this thread so I might can get an answer.
Old Jun 11, 2005 | 11:06 AM
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Well, let's see. He said it's around $400 and their site says to contact them for a dealer near you. What else would you like to know?
Old Jun 11, 2005 | 06:19 PM
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Well, let's see. He said it's around $400 and their site says to contact them for a dealer near you. What else would you like to know?

what else? hmmm...why you have haven't removed the stick from you *** yet?
Old Jun 11, 2005 | 06:36 PM
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what else? hmmm...why you have haven't removed the stick from you *** yet?
Another worthless post by dave to bump his count.
Old Jun 11, 2005 | 07:52 PM
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Old Jun 11, 2005 | 11:05 PM
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I didn't know I was playing, not nice. I just pointed out that he asked a question that was answered just a few posts above. But I apologize for making you shed a tear and sorry to all for tainting this thread.
Old Jun 11, 2005 | 11:19 PM
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I meant where he actually bought it from. as in who the dealer is that they directed him to. anyways..
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
Speculation so far, but from the bits-n-pieces I've found at least some applications can modify the rev-limiter, MAF to MAP, logging, and some other improvements. Looks like it will include the Support Tool also.

http://www.mohdparts.com/emanage/tmp...age/index.html

Translated Japanese page:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babel....html&lp=ja_en
Other than increasing the rev limiter it does what others have done before. Also they posted a list of the engine applications and there are no VQs listed. list is here It seems VGs, RBs, and SRs can run this, us VQ guys get shafted as usual. The older Nissan engine ECUs are a snap to tune, most Consult-1 ECUs are tunable by some shops who work on Nissans. IMO With the popularity of the 350Z/G35 they would of got the VQ35 rev limit and timing working if they could, maybe in the near future who knows.
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 09:06 AM
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I meant where he actually bought it from. as in who the dealer is that they directed him to. anyways..
Goto perfectpower.com they have a list of dealers in the US who will install for you. I think Ida Automotive does a SMT / nitrous install and tune for about $1000 IIRC. Ida is located in New Jersey and are the sole US distributor of perfect power products.

You can have the SMT-7 installed for now and once timing is figured out 100% it can be rewired and tuned. But to be honest I detonated on the dyno with my 1/4 mile track B map, so im approaching the limits of 93 oct fuel. Im now running a more mild street program and will use some race gas with the B map after my experiences in Texas last week...
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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This Emanage Ultimate seems pretty interesting. I wonder if it fixes the melting of coilpacks that we and other cars experience.
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 02:51 PM
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That was fixed in the v1.36+ Firmware upgrade versions.

http://www.mohdparts.com/emanage/pc/....36/index.html
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 02:54 PM
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Well maybe the Ultimate knows when to fire the coil so it can advance
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 03:47 PM
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Is there a JWT ecu for the '00 Maxima? Or will the one for the '99 and previous years work? I couldn't find anything with the search.
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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No ECU currently available for the 2000, that I am aware of.
Old Jun 15, 2005 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
Well maybe the Ultimate knows when to fire the coil so it can advance
for $600 for the ultimate and it can advance and retard, it will be a better option than jwt.

I know a lot of Korean tuners that love this piggyback.

speaking of which, found one for sale
http://www.newtiburon.com/forums/sho...ighlight=smt-6
Old Jun 15, 2005 | 11:52 AM
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for $600 for the ultimate and it can advance and retard, it will be a better option than jwt.
I will believe it when I see it working on a 4th or 5th gen Maxima...

At least I went to trouble of dynoing and proving my point instead of just saying it will advance. Take a look at that application list I see no VQs on it, If this worked as advertised on a VQ they sure as hell would mention it.
Old Jun 15, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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cam position that doesn't work on the smt is probably why they didn't list it. too hard to make sure that it works. if the smt raised the rev limiter, i would do that, I feel that greddy has enough lining on their pockets. the ease of use of the emanage right now is the only reason why i am considering it. Although, since i already have an safc-ii i may just get the technosquare, if its affordable enough.

sr20-what is this l-spec that you speak of?
Old Jun 15, 2005 | 04:47 PM
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This new emanage drives the injectors and coils so it can raise revlimter. That is what i think it does.
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sr20-what is this l-spec that you speak of?

L-spec = Throttle flap closing fix, and raised rev limiter .. and offers no adjusted timing or a/f..
Old Jun 17, 2005 | 04:23 PM
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so whats a ts lspec reflash??? how can u get a ts ecu??
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Originally Posted by russt766
so whats a ts lspec reflash??? how can u get a ts ecu??

Originally Posted by NmexMAX
L-spec = Throttle flap closing fix, and raised rev limiter .. and offers no adjusted timing or a/f..
Does that help russt766? WHat do you do when you want a Dominos Pizza? Yeah, that's what I thought ....
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What do you mean this interent thing allows you to look at manufacturers websites?
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no **** i read that....you dont need to be a smart *** about it...but i wanted to know what the reflash was about!!!
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Technosquare L-Spec Info
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no **** i read that....you dont need to be a smart *** about it...but i wanted to know what the reflash was about!!!
Slow your roll.
Old Jun 21, 2005 | 09:59 PM
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since i already have an safc-ii i may just get the technosquare,
How do you like the safc ii im thinking about getting one.are you gona run the technosquare and the safc ii ?

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