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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 08:32 PM
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help,lost hp. with headers

o.k heres the problom, in 2002 i got my car dynoed at stillen open house and got hp.173 and tq.176 with a 2000 max auto with wolf intake and high flow cat.Since then i have added cattman header,ud pulley,grounding wires,warpspeed b pipe and i just dynoed again at stillen and got hp.172 and tg.189.The car seems to run fine no error codes i use 91 gas. Everyone who dynoed b4 and after me got good numbers.I want to change the intake to injen,but im alittle lost as to why i dont have bigger hp. numbers.
Old Jun 5, 2005 | 10:00 PM
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Your VI is not operating properly. Check the 5th gen forum for more details.
Old Jun 6, 2005 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by arthur glazier
o.k heres the problom, in 2002 i got my car dynoed at stillen open house and got hp.173 and tq.176 with a 2000 max auto with wolf intake and high flow cat.Since then i have added cattman header,ud pulley,grounding wires,warpspeed b pipe and i just dynoed again at stillen and got hp.172 and tg.189.The car seems to run fine no error codes i use 91 gas. Everyone who dynoed b4 and after me got good numbers.I want to change the intake to injen,but im alittle lost as to why i dont have bigger hp. numbers.
can you post the graphs? and did they provide a/f readings?
Old Jun 6, 2005 | 10:37 AM
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Yeah, 3yrs a lot of crap could have happened.

Get the graph and we might be able to see something....
Old Jun 8, 2005 | 05:46 AM
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eeek at first I thought this was another Stealin Header thread... BTW what ever happened to them?
Old Jun 9, 2005 | 09:10 PM
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still selling them in their catalogs with a acclaimed gain of 15hp

arthur: take a look at the dyno chart and see how the graph looks like
Old Jun 11, 2005 | 11:56 AM
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Whats up Arthur, I got the pics & videos of the dyno you ran. I'm gonna E-mail them to The Wizard & he's gonna host them. Keep checking the West Coast Forum under "Stillen Open House Pics" Thread.
Old Jun 24, 2005 | 11:40 PM
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I cant post dyno, but the hp shoot up at 3800 rpm dip a little then slowly rise. At 3800 rpm I got 140hp then peaks at 6100 rpm at 172 hp
Old Jun 25, 2005 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by arthur glazier
I cant post dyno, but the hp shoot up at 3800 rpm dip a little then slowly rise. At 3800 rpm I got 140hp then peaks at 6100 rpm at 172 hp
i would find someone to email it to so they can post it. that would be the only way to follow the graph.
Old Jun 25, 2005 | 09:47 AM
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 12:53 AM
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I checked the vi and it moves at 5k rpm. I want to pull the plugges and ckeck them out next.
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 04:57 AM
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You can still have a problem with the VI, even if outwardly it looks like it is functioning normally. The problem is due to looseness in the internal mechanism that results in less than full opening of the power valve when the VIAS is actuated.
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 06:49 AM
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don't you have to check the little rotator cup to see if that is broken or not? Thats how i checked mine so just wanted to make sure i did it right
Old Jun 28, 2005 | 07:16 AM
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how much did stillen charge you? did they tune for you? dynojet???
Old Jun 30, 2005 | 11:37 PM
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They were charging $50 for 3 runs & no tuning.
Old Jul 1, 2005 | 06:40 AM
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would you happen to know how much they charge with? i dont really want to call... but 50 bucks is less than average for around here........
Old Jul 1, 2005 | 11:21 PM
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It was only $50 bucks for "Stillen Open House" day. It was a discount just for that day. I'm not sure what there normal price is.
Old Jul 2, 2005 | 02:05 AM
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did they use a dynojet do you know?
Old Jul 6, 2005 | 10:17 PM
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well i checked the back 3 plugs and they look o.k.but i have a injen on the way and i think thats the problom.The jim wolf intake does not move the air intake sensor. So the air temp. is differant then what really does come in, and thats why when i got smogged it was rich. It all makes sence now
Old Jul 7, 2005 | 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by arthur glazier
well i checked the back 3 plugs and they look o.k.but i have a injen on the way and i think thats the problom.The jim wolf intake does not move the air intake sensor. So the air temp. is differant then what really does come in, and thats why when i got smogged it was rich. It all makes sence now

Air temp sensor does not affect the way the car runs, it is for diagnostic purposes only, so thats not it.
Old Jul 7, 2005 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by arthur glazier
well i checked the back 3 plugs and they look o.k.but i have a injen on the way and i think thats the problom.The jim wolf intake does not move the air intake sensor. So the air temp. is differant then what really does come in, and thats why when i got smogged it was rich. It all makes sence now
you are just wasting your money on the injen intake. It looks good but does nothing for performance.
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