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Old Jul 7, 2005 | 08:39 PM
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A buddy of mine mentioned that I get this done to my car especially with the mods I have done on my 3.5.
It's a stand alone unit, I'm to lazy to type any info on this I read every word about this unit and so far so good. He says he can do it for me for $900 including Dyno tuning.

LT12 / LTX12
http://centralfloridaturbo.com/microtech.php

Any suggestions..
Old Jul 8, 2005 | 06:28 AM
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If it can control the engine w/o problems, go for it. Have your own revlimit and everything.
Old Jul 8, 2005 | 07:35 AM
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Anyone here using a similar unit can provide me with some input.
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To my knowledge no one is using a standone on the Maxima. The closest thing is Joe and I using the SMT6.
Old Jul 8, 2005 | 08:25 AM
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Hmm
How much?
Old Jul 8, 2005 | 08:33 AM
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Wait I found a thread all about it Kev.

So is there any word on the SMT 7

I'm still part of the untuned 3.5 club
Old Jul 8, 2005 | 08:46 AM
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We have yet to get the right stuff to PerfectPower to get it to work on the Maxima. Give us time.
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Originally Posted by japmaxSE
I'm still part of the untuned 3.5 club
Yep, hope to break out of this club as soon as money starts crawling back into my wallet.
Old Jul 9, 2005 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
To my knowledge no one is using a standone on the Maxima. The closest thing is Joe and I using the SMT6.

Negative. Nigel (turbo97se) has AEM EMS standalone on his maxima. He doesn't post much anymore though he spends alot of time traveling for work.
Old Jul 9, 2005 | 08:10 PM
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Cool, any more info on this Neal
Old Jul 10, 2005 | 07:58 AM
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Well he said it was really hard to get up and running something about our funky crank signal not being read correctly by the AEM. He was offering it for other PFI customers a while back, I don't know of anyone that purchased one on here, of course there are lots of those guys who just read and build cars, and don't post, so who knows?
Old Jul 10, 2005 | 11:27 AM
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Well I guess there's not much info on standalones on our cars well on the Org..
I'll meet up with him monday and find out some more info..
My main question is how much power can be made with this unit? will it be worth the money spent?

Should I settle for Emanage or SMT7 etc.. I can get those right now,
well SMT7 is still on wait tho....
Old Jul 10, 2005 | 01:40 PM
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Well, I would not get the Emanage since you need to advance the timing. You can squeeze ALOT of power out of the VQ35 with some tuning.

Standalone would be awesome since you can set your own MAPS for the street and track and have your own revlimit.
Old Jul 11, 2005 | 12:17 PM
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being that nigel is too busy for anyone ...so far these are all the vq options that have been working for EVERYONE

** i raped this from my350z.com**
Air/Fuel Controllers:
A'PEXi Super Air Flow Converter (AFC) II (SAFCII)

Ignition Timing Control:
J&S UltraSafeguard/Safeguard

ECU Reflashes:
Altered Atmosphere [Motorsports]
Technosquare Incorporated
jwt

Piggyback Engine Management:
GReddy eManage
GReddy Ultimate eManage
HKS F-CON S (comes in HKS S/C kit, not tunable)
Unichip (included in APS single turbocharger and twin turbocharger kits)
Xede/Vishnu

Standalone Engine Management:
HKS F-CON V-Pro
MoTeC M600/M800
Magneti Marrelli SRA
Magneti Marrelli SRT
Old Jul 11, 2005 | 02:07 PM
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I'd wait a week or so, since the eManage Ultimate is NOW available and soon will be proven/disproven to advance timing, bump rev-limiter, target AFR(w/WB02), and a bunch of other nice things even possibly CVTC control.

http://www.mohdparts.com/emanage/ind...ge%20Ultimate:
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So who's the Guinea pig for maximas?
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I was the Guinea pig for the SMT6 so someone else has to do this.
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My 300zx ECU is collecting dust so I can't either. 100 bucks sitting on the shelf already.
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Personally, I'd wait a bit too to see what develops with the E-Manage or SMT etc. If in the end they (or at least one of them) can truly advance timing (plus a/f etc) then it's probably better than stand alone. Don't have to go through all that hassle of setting everything up from scratch, dealing with emissions equipment etc (if applicable).
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Well SMT is proven to advance timing.
Old Jul 12, 2005 | 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by japmaxSE
A buddy of mine mentioned that I get this done to my car especially with the mods I have done on my 3.5.
It's a stand alone unit, I'm to lazy to type any info on this I read every word about this unit and so far so good. He says he can do it for me for $900 including Dyno tuning.

LT12 / LTX12
http://centralfloridaturbo.com/microtech.php

Any suggestions..

Fred, CFT is notorious for building cars that blow up...take it from someone whos seen them at the track
Old Jul 12, 2005 | 10:14 AM
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Well SMT is proven to advance timing.
Yes but weren't there issues with the cam sensor not letting you go as far as you wanted to?
Old Jul 12, 2005 | 11:47 AM
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True, we can advance to around 10 before the ECU throws a ghost CEL. We need a good scope to get the signal from the CAM sensor so the SMT7 can have the VQ30de firmware in it.
Old Jul 18, 2005 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
I was the Guinea pig for the SMT6 so someone else has to do this.
Hey Kevlo,

I'm a member on Altimas.net and I'm currently the only one trying to get the SMT6 installed on my 04 Altima 3.5SE and I need some extra help with the configuration.

Could you possibly IM me on AIM (CTeague711)?

I'm having a world of trouble with my global settings and no one that I've talked to seems to have gotten it even nearly correct.

If anyone else here has a SMT6 working on a VQ35DE please contact me!
Old Jul 18, 2005 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Velicos
Hey Kevlo,

I'm a member on Altimas.net and I'm currently the only one trying to get the SMT6 installed on my 04 Altima 3.5SE and I need some extra help with the configuration.

Could you possibly IM me on AIM (CTeague711)?

I'm having a world of trouble with my global settings and no one that I've talked to seems to have gotten it even nearly correct.

If anyone else here has a SMT6 working on a VQ35DE please contact me!
The SMT 6 or 7 will never work 100% on a 2k2 or newer Maxima, V6 Altima, or 350Z. Well it can be made to read the crank signal and advance timing somewhat, but not at the extent as we have been able to with the 4th gens.

Hell the SMT-6 doesn't work 100% on a 4th gen Maxima... The problem lies in its inability to read the VQ cam signal in conjunction with the crank signal. SMT-6 wasn't designed to understand the overly retarded and complex cam signal Nissan likes to use on the VQ series engines. It only gets worse with the newer CVTC equipped VQs, now you have two cam signals of an even more complex nature and their phase changes with the CVTC's position. The SMT-7 when programmed with the proper cam signal will work 100% on '95~'01 Maximas, but Im certain the 7 will never work as intended on a 2k2 or newer VQ.

The only piggyback I can forsee working on these engines is the Greddy Emanage Ultimate because it was designed to work with Nissan's CVTC. However the results are still out if it will work on US spec Nissans and I already have my doubts, but im not gonna post and be labeled a "hater" or something else.
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Hey did you guys ever get the cam signal scoped properly for Perfect Power? If not I may be able to help with that... a good friend of mine works in electronics and should have access to top of the line equipment.
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So who's the Guinea pig for maximas?
i will if you buy it for me

is the SMT6 capable of remove the rev limiter. I downloaded sme of there software(smt6 and revguard) revguard looks like it is able to set the limiter:

REVG: REV GUARD Perfect Power Association

Present RPM : EN1: EN2: EN3:

┌────────┐
Cylinders │ ___ │
Blanking │ ____ ├────────┐
Maximum RPM │ _____ │ _____ │
EN1 RPM Limit│ │ │
EN2 RPM Limit│ │ │
EN3 RPM Limit│ │ │
Above Limit │ _____ │ │ 1=Open, 0=Close
For Time (ms)│ ____ │ │
│ │ │
└────────┴────────┘
Output #1 Output #2

Command:


Im not sure but maybe some1 can shed some more light on this.
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Originally Posted by sean05
i will if you buy it for me

is the SMT6 capable of remove the rev limiter. I downloaded sme of there software(smt6 and revguard) revguard looks like it is able to set the limiter:

REVG: REV GUARD Perfect Power Association

Present RPM : EN1: EN2: EN3:

┌────────┐
Cylinders │ ___ │
Blanking │ ____ ├────────┐
Maximum RPM │ _____ │ _____ │
EN1 RPM Limit│ │ │
EN2 RPM Limit│ │ │
EN3 RPM Limit│ │ │
Above Limit │ _____ │ │ 1=Open, 0=Close
For Time (ms)│ ____ │ │
│ │ │
└────────┴────────┘
Output #1 Output #2

Command:


Im not sure but maybe some1 can shed some more light on this.


It cant extended the revlimit, only lower it
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 98SEBlackMax
The SMT 6 or 7 will never work 100% on a 2k2 or newer Maxima, V6 Altima, or 350Z. Well it can be made to read the crank signal and advance timing somewhat, but not at the extent as we have been able to with the 4th gens.

Hell the SMT-6 doesn't work 100% on a 4th gen Maxima... The problem lies in its inability to read the VQ cam signal in conjunction with the crank signal. SMT-6 wasn't designed to understand the overly retarded and complex cam signal Nissan likes to use on the VQ series engines. It only gets worse with the newer CVTC equipped VQs, now you have two cam signals of an even more complex nature and their phase changes with the CVTC's position. The SMT-7 when programmed with the proper cam signal will work 100% on '95~'01 Maximas, but Im certain the 7 will never work as intended on a 2k2 or newer VQ.

The only piggyback I can forsee working on these engines is the Greddy Emanage Ultimate because it was designed to work with Nissan's CVTC. However the results are still out if it will work on US spec Nissans and I already have my doubts, but im not gonna post and be labeled a "hater" or something else.
What about 1995 ecus? Do you think the SMT-7 or Ultimate Emanage would be able to raise ignition timing to what 2k2s/350zs/G35 run and more? I use 94 Octane so I know there is a TON of power to juice out of the VQ35 running on my 95 ecu, but you said it will throw a code if timing is advanced too much (unless the 95 ecu is different from your 98, I hear 1995's aren't completely OBDII yet, only '96 up).

If that's the case, I can't see how anything will cut it for us, since the ECU will always throw a code after timing is advanced past a certain point. How can that be dealt with if it's a restriction built-in the 95 ECU itself?
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