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Old 10-16-2005, 06:37 AM
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Counterfeit 3.5 EBay Cams
Has anyone been watching this thread about these cams. Going to be dynoed and results posted soon, should be interesting.
http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=205439

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWA%3AIT
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From what I can see in the pictures, they are Nissan blanks but the lobes look stock. They are VQ35 cams because of the timing slots but the lobes arent back cut so I know they aren't just stock cams.

The price is nice if they actually do anything but we've already seen that cams in this spec range don't do much of anything for most FWD setups.

Whoever buys these better have a big collection of shims.
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Old 10-16-2005, 07:44 AM
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I just read more through that thread and I noticed the deal brewing for the demo set. I sent the guy an email through Ebay and volunteered to be a test candidate.
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wow if i had the cash id buy now ,wish they were alittle more agressive
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it seems like he didnt gain any power, it sucks that he has an auto though.
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Originally Posted by spanishrice
it seems like he didnt gain any power, it sucks that he has an auto though.
he didnt dyno with the cams yet do you have a time machine
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Old 10-16-2005, 04:11 PM
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He turned me down for the demo offer. We will just have to wait and see how things go now for the Altimas.
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Old 11-02-2005, 05:41 PM
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So do the shims have to be replaced with the cams?
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The seller said they don't.
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i was the test car and got around 15 to 20 whp.
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Old 11-06-2005, 06:23 PM
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You got the Dyno to prove it?
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well. i was dynoing at 245-250 and the latest one came out at 265whp.
the spike showing 289 torque was a downshift. this dyno was before fixing the lean mixture i had with the other intake pipe. now is fixed and go it the dynoed at 262.
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Old 11-06-2005, 08:40 PM
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I see you just got pretty close to my 270whp STD record with a 265whp STD in an auto. Not bad at all. What were the SAE numbers?
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sorry i didn't get them cause i was so pissed that my tunning doesn't feel consistent after a couple of hours. i guess the ecu is changing the tunning by itself. hopefully this week i'm going to get a wideband and check it out for myself cause dyno sessions are becoming way expensive. i'm seriously thinking now about the tc flash.
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Old 11-07-2005, 05:51 AM
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Be wary of paying for the full TS software unless they can tune your car specifically. Like most of us you're probably just better off getting the L-Spec and do the rest of the tuning yourself.
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Old 11-07-2005, 06:56 AM
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Try getting the run files next time ...
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now that i read about setting up the safc2, the lo-throttle should be set at 40% what about hi throttle? what percentage?
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Originally Posted by virgilio7
now that i read about setting up the safc2, the lo-throttle should be set at 40% what about hi throttle? what percentage?
Most people (that I know of) are setting the low and high throttle settings right next to each other, e.g. low throttle at 39% and high throttle at 40%. So they are transitioning directly from zero correction below the low throttle setting to whatever correction at the high throttle setting. This means the SAFC is being used only for WOT corrections. You would have to do extensive dyno-tuning at various amounts of partial throttle to take advantage of the linear interpolation between low and high throttle settings.
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Originally Posted by Stephen Max
Most people (that I know of) are setting the low and high throttle settings right next to each other, e.g. low throttle at 39% and high throttle at 40%. So they are transitioning directly from zero correction below the low throttle setting to whatever correction at the high throttle setting. This means the SAFC is being used only for WOT corrections. You would have to do extensive dyno-tuning at various amounts of partial throttle to take advantage of the linear interpolation between low and high throttle settings.

That is how I had my 3.5 auto setup and it worked quite well.
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Old 11-07-2005, 10:28 AM
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The best thing that works for me right now is 15% and 85%. But I have some parts that no one else has (390cc injectors and 77mm MAF).
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Old 11-07-2005, 11:25 AM
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there is a group buy for the headers I installed. 599 plus shipping. the deal is on nissanclub. check on it if interested.
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Originally Posted by virgilio7
there is a group buy for the headers I installed. 599 plus shipping. the deal is on nissanclub. check on it if interested.
I don't believe those will fit our cars.
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I tried xs headers and they didnt clear our crossmember. unless they take a path in our favor they wont work
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me and my stupid self. hahahaha my head is spinning as i'm trying to find info on a wideband. I was talking about cams. not headers sorry
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so when are we gonna see this in a 3.5 maxima?
also would these cams work in those people using the 3.5 motor on a 4th gen ecu?
or would these cams even fit in a 3.0 motor?
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so when are we gonna see this in a 3.5 maxima?
It has already been done to 2 ( 4AT and 6MT) 3.5L Maximas that I know of...

You have search, use it.
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Originally Posted by virgilio7
there is a group buy for the headers I installed. 599 plus shipping. the deal is on nissanclub. check on it if interested.
What is the website? I am very intrested.....
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Originally Posted by Starchild2K2SE
What is the website? I am very intrested.....
Use the 1st link in this thread and start looking in there. .... It should be in the top 5 psots in that forum.
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Old 11-07-2005, 08:01 PM
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http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=208259
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
It has already been done to 2 ( 4AT and 6MT) 3.5L Maximas that I know of...

You have search, use it.
i didnt kno anyone put these ebay cams in a max....my fault.
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Originally Posted by liqidvenom
i didnt kno anyone put these ebay cams in a max....my fault.
I was referring to JWT cams, which are the same grinds as the 'ebay' cams. Sorry...
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IIRC, one guy had the JWT's installed incorrectly, (PhxBlue), and the other guy had Tomei 264's but in conjuction with stillen headers so it probably didn't show the results that he would have got with HS or Cattman headers.
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Originally Posted by 03BlkSETE
IIRC, one guy had the JWT's installed incorrectly, (PhxBlue), and the other guy had Tomei 264's but in conjuction with stillen headers so it probably didn't show the results that he would have got with HS or Cattman headers.
Yeah it was look2me40s car that I installed the Tomei 264 cams in. IIRC he only made 230ish whp but he did have the Stealin headers. Too bad I didn't get to stick around to tune his car or do a few other things to it.
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SR20, what's your opinion on these ebay cams?
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Originally Posted by nismology
SR20, what's your opinion on these ebay cams?
I think they're very attractive for that price, at least compared to all the other cams.
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I guess my queston would be is the material they are made of going to stand the test of time?
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they are made of going to stand the test of time?
Only time will tell...

Unless someone wants to do some metallographic analysis on the lobes/cams etc
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Just so you guy know for what it's worth, it looks like Topspeed/Pro-1 are the makers of these cams. I had orignally thought so, but this thread confirms it.

http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthre...d+headers+pics
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
Whoever buys these better have a big collection of shims.
Would these cams need taller shims since they are modified stock cams instead of made from blanks?
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Originally Posted by nismology
Would these cams need taller shims since they are modified stock cams instead of made from blanks?
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...78&postcount=8

http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...42&postcount=9


Also, I thought these were nissan blanks. Regrinds should need new shims unless they were welded and ground to spec on the base circle.

I wish someone would copy the Nismo Spec1 cams and sell them for that price.
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