Timing advance
10-21-2005, 05:52 PM
#81
I am not going to use that crap. I'll stick to the EU if I really wanted to have real control over the timing, etc.
If you really want to know what the definition of trouble is, go ahead and buy that thing.
If you really want to know what the definition of trouble is, go ahead and buy that thing.
10-22-2005, 07:53 AM
#83
Originally Posted by MaxObesset
any with a 3.5 4th gen ecu have a safc2 if so whats the settings?
10-22-2005, 08:10 AM
#84
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
I am not going to use that crap. I'll stick to the EU if I really wanted to have real control over the timing, etc.
If you really want to know what the definition of trouble is, go ahead and buy that thing.
If you really want to know what the definition of trouble is, go ahead and buy that thing.
I assume your talking about the Megasquirt? That's pretty pathetic. If hundreds (thousands?) of carburated V8 luvin' rednecks can figure out how to program a fuel injection and electronic ignition computer I for damn sure can.
allen
10-22-2005, 08:40 AM
#85
Originally Posted by Deckdout2
up, down, up, down, left, right, left, right, select, start. that should give you an extra 9 lives.
so whats the difference between static maps on TS ecu's and jwt maps?
10-22-2005, 11:57 AM
#87
Originally Posted by allen22
I assume your talking about the Megasquirt? That's pretty pathetic. If hundreds (thousands?) of carburated V8 luvin' rednecks can figure out how to program a fuel injection and electronic ignition computer I for damn sure can.
allen
allen
Can't use COP as well, have to use a distributor. That's definately a step backwards.
10-22-2005, 10:46 PM
#88
Originally Posted by allen22
I assume your talking about the Megasquirt? That's pretty pathetic. If hundreds (thousands?) of carburated V8 luvin' rednecks can figure out how to program a fuel injection and electronic ignition computer I for damn sure can.
allen
allen
The only thing that is pathetic is that home made with Radio Shack parts thing you linked us to. So go ahead and put it on your car to prove to us how wonderful it is.
I personally would shell out the $3000+ for a Motec M600 setup before I wasted my time on something that I would use to put fuel injection on my lown mower.
10-22-2005, 11:20 PM
#89
10-23-2005, 07:20 AM
#90
Originally Posted by JeffesonM
10-23-2005, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
The only thing that is pathetic is that home made with Radio Shack parts thing you linked us to. So go ahead and put it on your car to prove to us how wonderful it is.
I personally would shell out the $3000+ for a Motec M600 setup before I wasted my time on something that I would use to put fuel injection on my lown mower.
I personally would shell out the $3000+ for a Motec M600 setup before I wasted my time on something that I would use to put fuel injection on my lown mower.
You do know that the "$3000+ Motec M600" is likely built with very similar components using the same or similar techniques and probably has little to no more features than the Megasquirt, right?
Also, the MS does support coil on plug but only certain types so far such as Ford's EDIS system among a few others.
SR20DEN, you seem very ignorant about the MS. You should look into it further before you so quickly attack it - if you are serious about tuning your VQ's fuel and/or timing.
allen
10-23-2005, 08:19 PM
#94
Originally Posted by allen22
You do know that the "$3000+ Motec M600" is likely built with very similar components using the same or similar techniques and probably has little to no more features than the Megasquirt, right?
Also, the MS does support coil on plug but only certain types so far such as Ford's EDIS system among a few others.
SR20DEN, you seem very ignorant about the MS. You should look into it further before you so quickly attack it - if you are serious about tuning your VQ's fuel and/or timing.
allen
Also, the MS does support coil on plug but only certain types so far such as Ford's EDIS system among a few others.
SR20DEN, you seem very ignorant about the MS. You should look into it further before you so quickly attack it - if you are serious about tuning your VQ's fuel and/or timing.
allen
I looked over the site and studied the schematics a little before I made the comments. The Motec M400, M600 and M800 are still the ONLY standalone ECUs that can control DBW, Nissan VTC AND BMW Vanos. And they don't need some external relay box to drive components.
And again, if the MS is so wonderful why don't you go ahead and buy one?
And while on that note, please make your own thread about it. One that I won't ***** up like you've done mine.
Thanks
10-24-2005, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
I looked over the site and studied the schematics a little before I made the comments. The Motec M400, M600 and M800 are still the ONLY standalone ECUs that can control DBW, Nissan VTC AND BMW Vanos. And they don't need some external relay box to drive components.
And again, if the MS is so wonderful why don't you go ahead and buy one?
And while on that note, please make your own thread about it. One that I won't ***** up like you've done mine.
Thanks
And again, if the MS is so wonderful why don't you go ahead and buy one?
And while on that note, please make your own thread about it. One that I won't ***** up like you've done mine.
Thanks
The external relay box is only needed on applications that didn't previously have fuel injection.
My intent was not to "***** up" your precious thread but to help you in your pursuit of timing and fuel control and hopefully encourage some useful conversation from some knowledgable members, yourself included. I understand you're not interested in the MS so I'll leave it alone. If/when I get my VQ running on the MS I'll post up the results.
allen
10-24-2005, 08:30 AM
#97
Originally Posted by allen22
If/when I get my VQ running on the MS I'll post up the results.
allen
allen
some of the best mods for the maxima came out because people said it won't work, or it won't fit, but others made it work (i.e. 00vi, 300zx brakes, 3.5L engine swap, 3.5L cams in 3.0, and the first turbo on a maxima.. if there's anybody here who still remembers those "good old days" when the only mods for maximas were the PR intake, cattman y-pipe, a few exhausts, and for the serious side the Vortech V1 SC -- Back in the day when Cheston still drove a 97 SC max
it's very easy to dismiss something, and say it's not going to work..
however..
SR20DEN is one of the more knowledgeable members of maxima.org, who has already proven he can do quite a lot with his maxima, check out his sig and look at his dynos. he always posts relevant information, and has been one of the people who made those previously unworkable mods possible. i'd take his advice, but that doesn't mean that the Megasquirt won't work. if you feel you can make it possible, try it out so we can know that it DEFINITELY does/doesn't work, for all i know it can be the next best fuel/ignition computer for anybody running a modified max, and you're the one who'll make it work.
i'm sure people said that the SMT will not work either, but ask Kevlo911 or JnotofThisWorld if it doesn't work for them (minus the bugs being worked out)
good luck, and happy tuning
10-24-2005, 09:02 AM
#98
I never said it wouldn't work. I stated my opinion that I think it's crap and that I won't attempt to use it. I have defended just about every piggyback or standalone box out on the market, when others were bashing them, except for this one. I am drawing the line at this thing and I want no part of it. But again, those of you that do should try one. No one said my opinions had to be the gold standard, often times people ignore my advice anyway.
The purpose of this thread was to show everyone how easy it really is to make ignition timing changes on these cars with a simple piggyback and some easy fuel system changes. I fail to see how on Earth this is more trouble than wiring up an entire standalone system.
The purpose of this thread was to show everyone how easy it really is to make ignition timing changes on these cars with a simple piggyback and some easy fuel system changes. I fail to see how on Earth this is more trouble than wiring up an entire standalone system.
10-24-2005, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Stephen Max
Personal attacks against org members is prohibited per the rules you agreed to when registering.
First offense noted.
First offense noted.
I felt personally attacked there. Stephen Max, I trust you sent SR20DEN's warning via PM?
"I fail to see how on Earth this is more trouble than wiring up an entire standalone system."
I agree, your way is much more simple, I don't intend to bother you about it anymore. Sorry about that "bitter" comment, that was childish and I should have kept my mouth shut.
allen
10-24-2005, 10:30 AM
#100
Originally Posted by allen22
"One that I won't ***** up like you've done mine."
I felt personally attacked there. Stephen Max, I trust you sent SR20DEN's warning via PM?
I felt personally attacked there. Stephen Max, I trust you sent SR20DEN's warning via PM?
No name calling please. Ad hominem attacks are inflammatory and can quickly lead to worthless flame-fests.
10-27-2005, 02:12 PM
#102
Originally Posted by Kevlo911
Might want to close this thread, we already got the info, pull maf V = added timing.
11-26-2005, 04:28 PM
#103
Originally Posted by SR-71 Blackbird
L-spec ECU's are for 02-03 maxima's only.
http://www.technosquareinc.com/limited.htm
They feature:
- 7100 Rev Limiter (500rpm Increase)
- Speed Limiter Removal
- Drive By Wire Re-mapping
4th gen SE's don't have a speed limiter and don't have drive by wire.
http://www.technosquareinc.com/limited.htm
They feature:
- 7100 Rev Limiter (500rpm Increase)
- Speed Limiter Removal
- Drive By Wire Re-mapping
4th gen SE's don't have a speed limiter and don't have drive by wire.
11-26-2005, 04:38 PM
#104
Originally Posted by Timz96SE
Just curious when I looked at your link it says nothing about only 02-03....
The 6th gen has a totally different ECU than the 5.5gen. Therefore, the L-spec is only for 02-03.
11-29-2005, 04:12 PM
#106
Originally Posted by Glude
Sucks because im ready for the L spec Flash.
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!
I just noticed something reeeeeealy interesting. The A34 uses the SAME ECU connectors as the Z33. You guys can possibly use a 350Z ECU or the new UTEC standalone system from TurboXS .
I doubt all the pinouts are the same and I dont have time at the moment to study them, but.................
http://www.courtesyparts.com/Merchan...ct_Code=ASW180
When are you ***** going to bring me a A34 so I can do this stuff?
We can also add 05+ VQ35 Altimas to this list. 02-04 VQ35 Altimas still used the A33 conector.
It appears that all QR Altimas, and most everything else (Titan etc.), use the Z33 connector
06-29-2006, 06:40 PM
#108
Ok, not Maxima related, but Nissan related and timing advance related. My wife has an 05 3.5 Altima. I asked the dealer to advance the timing to 17, but was told that it would revert back to the stock 15. I have an 5.5 gen and did it to my Maxima without it going back to stock at 14. Just wondering if the explanation from the dealer was true or not, it is the same dealer that did my timing advance for free.
07-04-2006, 08:00 AM
#111
ok i kind of read quickly over this thread....say i bumped up to 94+ 300zx TT injectors and used a VAFC or SAFC to take away some fuel will it bump the timing like it does for the 02-03 guys or will the 4th gens ECU set it back to stock....after reading this thread it seemed most od it was for the 3.5 guys
07-04-2006, 08:18 AM
#112
You don't have to use larger injectors either. You can use a EB or EU to essentually do the same thing with the additional injection map. That will probably be one of my next projects after I put the OE injectors back in.
09-18-2006, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MaximaSE96
but u think the larger injector and afc will work on the 3.o though.....i have access to the 300zx tt injectors is y i ask
09-18-2006, 05:06 PM
#116
Leave the stock injectors, add fuel with an AFPR, then use the SAFC to tune back the fuel. You'll end up taking away MAF voltage thus bumping the timming slightly while gaining power.
09-18-2006, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by JSutter
Leave the stock injectors, add fuel with an AFPR, then use the SAFC to tune back the fuel. You'll end up taking away MAF voltage thus bumping the timming slightly while gaining power.
What type of AFPR would be recommended?
09-18-2006, 05:28 PM
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Man, you guys in the states get all the good stuff. I probably won't be able to take advantage of the sr20 modified ones. Might have to settle for the AEM universal.
So injectors are not recommended? I read before 300zx TT injectors are a good upgrade as well.
So injectors are not recommended? I read before 300zx TT injectors are a good upgrade as well.