Kinetix SSV Prototype for 3.5 Alty
10-24-2005, 04:46 PM
#1
Kinetix SSV Prototype for 3.5 Alty
This is a pic of the new Kinetix SSV prototype being developed for the 3.5 Altima released today. However I don't think there are any differences from their engine to the Max because I have one sitting on my engine stand right now.
You can read all about it here. http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/sho...4&page=1&pp=15
Might be a nice add on for a 3.5 swap.
You can read all about it here. http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/sho...4&page=1&pp=15
Might be a nice add on for a 3.5 swap.
10-24-2005, 05:09 PM
#5
Not sure what you expect to see in a prototype. Sure ain't expected to look pretty. I really don't care what it looks like as long as the gains are there. As far as the design its very similar to the 350Z with the exception it feeds the centre vs the end.
Here is a design developed by a friend of mine for the DSM's which develped over 40 HP on their 2.2 turbo.
My Son put one on his and gained .4 and 4 mph in the 1/4.
Here is a design developed by a friend of mine for the DSM's which develped over 40 HP on their 2.2 turbo.
My Son put one on his and gained .4 and 4 mph in the 1/4.
10-24-2005, 05:20 PM
#7
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Originally Posted by Jime
Not sure what you expect to see in a prototype. Sure ain't expected to look pretty. I really don't care what it looks like as long as the gains are there. As far as the design its very similar to the 350Z with the exception it feeds the centre vs the end.
Here is a design developed by a friend of mine for the DSM's which develped over 40 HP on their 2.2 turbo.
My Son put one on his and gained .4 and 4 mph in the 1/4.
Here is a design developed by a friend of mine for the DSM's which develped over 40 HP on their 2.2 turbo.
My Son put one on his and gained .4 and 4 mph in the 1/4.
10-24-2005, 05:43 PM
#9
A quick search on the 350z forums show this guy made decent NA gains. Unfortunately the graphs are not showing up for me right now.
http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthre...t=kinetix+dyno
http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthre...t=kinetix+dyno
10-24-2005, 06:50 PM
#11
how does this type of design have those gains we've seen? it's not even like the MEVI or 00VI where a switchover in runner length occurs, right?
also, if these fit the 3.5 FWD's, would this fit the 3.0's as well?
also, if these fit the 3.5 FWD's, would this fit the 3.0's as well?
10-24-2005, 06:50 PM
#12
Originally Posted by 03BlkSETE
Why? Is it something about the quality or is it the design that you don't like?
I am not concerned with the looks. However that design makes it a waste of money and I don't think we'll see any great gains from it. I could be wrong, but the runner length looks too similar to stock and the runner geometry is wrong for our lower manifold.
10-24-2005, 06:54 PM
#13
Originally Posted by aznsap
how does this type of design have those gains we've seen? it's not even like the MEVI or 00VI where a switchover in runner length occurs, right?
also, if these fit the 3.5 FWD's, would this fit the 3.0's as well?
also, if these fit the 3.5 FWD's, would this fit the 3.0's as well?
No, 30 has oval runners not round.
10-24-2005, 07:07 PM
#14
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... Dynos would be nice. Crawford ditched the FWD IM concept a while back ... Now Kinetix came with it ... Only time and dynos will tell.
I had been follwing this thread for a while (since it started) and it actually looks promising, not so much the gains, but the mere fact that it actually made it to at least prototype.. Unlike SSRs honest attempt, as well as Crawfors lame attempt.
Looking through the thread, it seems as if the ultimate goal of it is to mimic the 350z manifold, but to merely be FWD compliant.
Not much research was done to ensure HP gain. Also, seems as if somewhere in the thread, they make a few comments that would dissapoint most if not all(those who know about the FWD IM) if they read it.
I'm not bashing but would like to see #'s and also, I am definately giving it props for production.
Seeing as how simple it looks to make, one might think the price tag is a smidge heavy.
10-24-2005, 07:21 PM
#15
It took the Foxbody aftermarket 15 years to realize that they didn't HAVE to put the TB in the stock location. I am suprised that no one has noticed this but if you REALLY want to use a Kinetix manifold, all you have to do is use a 350Z lower, the 350Z Kinetix manifold and take the elbow out of the equation. That setup WOULD make more power than our stock IM. However for RWD VQ35 specs, it too was made TOO conservitavely.
10-24-2005, 07:24 PM
#16
Originally Posted by SR20DEN
It took the Foxbody aftermarket 15 years to realize that they didn't HAVE to put the TB in the stock location. I am suprised that no one has noticed this but if you REALLY want to use a Kinetix manifold, all you have to do is use a 350Z lower, the 350Z Kinetix manifold and take the elbow out of the equation. That setup WOULD make more power than our stock IM. However for RWD VQ35 specs, it too was made TOO conservitavely.
Would it clear the hood?
..... Didn't want to mention any names .. just yet 
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10-25-2005, 07:02 AM
#23
Originally Posted by 6spd_Hayes
Boy, that sure does look familiar......
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10-25-2005, 07:14 AM
#29
Originally Posted by spanishrice
oh it still shouldnt be such an extreme angle by the first and last runner or they will run leaner than the others. Ogdd cad work none the less.
10-25-2005, 07:15 AM
#30
Originally Posted by 6spd_Hayes
Like someone said above, the Alty IM is in the prototype stage. The finish product may look better.
Point in case, their SSV IM for the 350z. Left is prototype, right is finish:
Point in case, their SSV IM for the 350z. Left is prototype, right is finish:
10-25-2005, 07:32 AM
#33
Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Pics? . 
10-25-2005, 07:42 AM
#35
Originally Posted by spanishrice
wow that has to be the worst design ever, like 3 cylinders will get way more air than the other 3.
10-25-2005, 07:52 AM
#37
Originally Posted by SR20DEN
But do you know why? That would be the exact same behavior for every manifold posted in this thread using our stock lower.
Can you explain the difference between ours and a 350z stock lower IM? (I am assuming you are talking about the part of the IM that the injectors plug into).
10-25-2005, 02:33 PM
#38
Originally Posted by 6spd_Hayes
Matt,
Can you explain the difference between ours and a 350z stock lower IM? (I am assuming you are talking about the part of the IM that the injectors plug into).
Can you explain the difference between ours and a 350z stock lower IM? (I am assuming you are talking about the part of the IM that the injectors plug into).
10-25-2005, 02:35 PM
#39
making a lower intake manifold, would not be worth it. you have to make a place to sit the fuel rails properly and make sure all o-rings fit tight and snug. Then make sure all injectors fit properly into the lower so you don't get puddling and stuff.
