what all parts from a vg30de can I fit into a ve30de??? pistons, rods, cams, valves???? anybody

 

First of all...why?

Secondly, I don't think any parts are interchangeable. Also, why the VG30DE? That makes no sense except that both are DOHC. One is a FWD Maxima engine, the other was used in the Z32 and J30. What gives?

 

i have seen some people with write ups on cardomain saying they had vg30de pistons and other things in there ve. i guess the main reason is that there isnt much support for the ve in the aftermarket

 

Well of course not. It was only used for a couple years and in a car that goes relatively unnoticed. What difference would putting VG pistons in make?

 

not stock ones but aftermarket for strength and durability with mods

 

technicly the ve block is the vg block

 

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....e+parts+ve30de

 

The VQ is superior in every way to the VE. Just slap a 00 VI on it and you're dusting any VE mod for mod.

 

He was asking about VG and VE, not VQ.

 

nevermind then.

 

you wanna come and put a vq in my 3rd gen??? didnt think so

 

I thought the question was about mismatching ve/vq parts. It came up before. I just misread.

 

The only good Nissan V series motors have Q's, K's or H's after the V.

 

it all depends on what you want. i havent seen a vq last as long as a vg so.....

 

just becas it doesnt have aftermarket support doesnt mean the ve isnt a good engine. u say q, k and h??? what about g. the vg30dett probably has the most available mods for it and probably handles the most power. im sure the vq35de will catch up but its not there yet

 

Not that it really has anything to do with this thread but I think the highest power put out by any nissan V engine is the VQ, performance motorsports has one in the 1800hp range in a car that is in the 6's.

 

I heard a rumor of a 2500hp VK56DE in Austrailia.

 

That is so much more power than I ever want in any car. My dad had a 770 HP Firebird. It did 0-115 MPH in 5.7 seconds. It was ridiculous, just-try-to-touch-the-dash power. Why anyone would desire 2500 HP is just... beyond me. I mean... fawk.

 

That's not saying much considering the VG's been out since the 80's. I'm speaking from a mileage standpoint in case you're wondering.

 

HA. I've personally seen three 4th gens with over 500,000 km's (300,000 miles) on them and someone on here had 420,000 miles on his.

 

 

Broaner: Not sure what you mean by "only good." Nissan has produced some of the greatest/most dependable engines out there. All of Nissan's engines have their flaws, just remember that technology has advanced tremendously over the last 25 years. The VG itself was utilized for more than a decade by Nissan. It served it's purpose for it's time. As I recall, it was awarded best engine in it's class for 10 years straight. I'll have to find the ad.

 

I think you are thinking of the VQ. Not sure if the VG was as well, but the VQ was voted best engine for 10 years or so.

 

1995 through 2005 every year. 7 production years with the VQ30 and 4 production years with the VQ35. Admitedly the 3.0 was smoother but the 3.5 provides bigger nuts under the hood.

 

Nope, I'll pull the ad. It mentioned the VG for 10 years running. I can't recall what award it is, said something like "the best v6..." or something. I will find and get back.

 

That is definately the VQ.

 

Agreed. Nissan milked that ad for so long. VQ got it for 11 years. Now what we really need is a NEO VVL VQ3X. I think anything past 3.5 is getting too big.

 

Higher reving VVL VQ32DD would be awesome, both FI and N/A.

 

If it's the Ward's thing, it's the VQ you are thinking of.

 

I just did a quick google search, I found nothing about the VG winning a "best engine" award but found the VQ of course because we all know it did. Actually it was 11 years running, wouldn't be surprised if it goes 12 for 12 in 2006.

http://www.aiada.org/article.asp?id=29380

edit: The only thing I found about the VG was a mention in wikipedia about it making the Wards list along with the VQ, but when you look at the Ward's list, only the VQ is on there.

 

If you notice I said,
Of course Nissan has some incredible motors. The RB and SR are most prevalent in my mind.

And if the VG was so great why was it rarely used in racing applications? The VQ can be found in anything now from the trusty Maxima, to the JGTC 350Z, to Dune buggies, and most recently 240's.



The NA version would be very cool and very feasible I think. But high reving and FI don't work together when housed by an aluminum block. But Nissan already has a motor that is really good at lots of revs and lots of boost. RB...

 

Real problem with the VG is that it is so ******* heavy. That is the only reason 3rd gens are heavier than 4th gens. Without that difference they'd weight pretty much the same, and we'd have independant suspensions.

 

The VE30DE and the VG30DE do not share the block and heads. The VE has chain driven cams. The VG cams are belt driven. The VE and VG do have the same bore and stroke. In a way you can say the VE was a spinoff of the VG30 family designed dor the Max since a VG30DE will not fit in a Max even if it was turned sideways. The VE30DE and VG30DE have the same rods. The VG30E rods are weaker. The VE30DE has a true flat top piston and the VG30DE has a raised top. The stock VG30DE compression ratio is 10.5:1 and the VE is 10.0:1. The VG30DE piston will drop right in the VE30DE for an easy half point rise in static compression. I have this in my recently built 92. I have a thread with all the details on my build in the 3rd Gen Forums. Also the cranks fron this whole family will drop in each other's blocks but do not interchange. They have different length snouts depending on the application. The VE and VG30DE have 8 bolt flanges for the flywheel. The SOHC engines have 6 bolt flanges. I think the VQ is great but that doesn't make the others crap. The VG series was the leader in it's day and is worthy of great respect.

 

i dont think its a rumor, when i was in china some racing guy from aussie went to this club i always went to. he told me about the vks and he said he saw that motor in person, cant remember which car he said it was in though, i was kinna drunk. i think it was a skyline with a swap. he kept on babering about how it was the best motor in the world or somn like that