What is the fastest 4th gen auto? Check out my Dyno
12-23-2005, 08:25 PM
#41
Originally Posted by Aaron92SE
I should be in the 13s very soon. I just gotta get my car back together after recently hitting a dog. It set me back a little bit this season. But I will hit 13s NA on the stock ECU sometime this winter. I'm actually eyeing deep in the 13s, like 13.6-13.8s. When I ran 14.3s, it was close to 80 degrees in FL on one of the slowest tracks in the nation. Now I'm back in NC, where I think we have a lot of nitrous in the air. 
I should easily be able to run in 40 degree weather, plus another 100lbs of weight reduction and some other little things I have planned.
I should easily be able to run in 40 degree weather, plus another 100lbs of weight reduction and some other little things I have planned.
Oh, who am I kidding...I just can't afford FI
12-23-2005, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Aaron92SE
Now I'm back in NC, where I think we have a lot of nitrous in the air.
Be cool to see your NA 3rd gen get into the 13's before any NA 4th gen does it
12-24-2005, 08:59 AM
#43
Originally Posted by JClaw
That's nonsense, we all know it's Canadian air that has nitrous in it. Ask Jime.
Be cool to see your NA 3rd gen get into the 13's before any NA 4th gen does it
Be cool to see your NA 3rd gen get into the 13's before any NA 4th gen does it
12-24-2005, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaron92SE
Yeah it would be cool. That's my goal. Hopefully by late Jan or Feb, I will be ready to hit the track. I really want to take some videos, but my camera only takes 15 second videos. I'll see what I can get together before then.
what up aaron so what going on with your car know is it faster then ever. my car is get fix as i speak. you need to come to cal again.
12-24-2005, 09:10 AM
#45
Originally Posted by rick's 92
what up aaron so what going on with your car know is it faster then ever. my car is get fix as i speak. you need to come to cal again.
12-24-2005, 09:15 AM
#46
Originally Posted by JClaw
Several people have proven over at 350z.com that you can get nearly 300whp out of an NA 3.5 with no internal work other than cams. Food for thought.
12-24-2005, 09:39 AM
#47
Originally Posted by SR-71 Blackbird
I'll go on record to say that 300whp NA in the FWD 3.5's is impossible
12-24-2005, 09:50 AM
#49
Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Nothing's impossible with the right amount of money and/or the right tune.
12-24-2005, 09:55 AM
#50
Originally Posted by Tatanko
What do you mean no NA 4th gen's in the 13's?
Originally Posted by SR-71 Blackbird
If you did a custom IM with individual TB's with custom tuning and all the bolt ons, 300whp would be possible. But with off the shelf parts, no.
How did they get there?
A33B/34 owners till haven't tapped into the cam scene as much as Z33 people, so none of us have any place to speak as to what the gains will be with cams and a good relationship between an A33B/34 ECU + EMU. So until all those demons are sorted, I do no think this will be a good debate because it's still much too fresh of a subject.
12-24-2005, 10:08 AM
#51
Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Maybe he meant 4AT? JClaw, explain yourself ... Z33's do not have ITB's ..
How did they get there?
A33B/34 owners till haven't tapped into the cam scene as much as Z33 people, so none of us have any place to speak as to what the gains will be with cams and a good relationship between an A33B/34 ECU + EMU. So until all those demons are sorted, I do no think this will be a good debate because it's still much too fresh of a subject.
How did they get there?
A33B/34 owners till haven't tapped into the cam scene as much as Z33 people, so none of us have any place to speak as to what the gains will be with cams and a good relationship between an A33B/34 ECU + EMU. So until all those demons are sorted, I do no think this will be a good debate because it's still much too fresh of a subject.
12-24-2005, 10:12 AM
#52
Originally Posted by fanaticrockford
I hope to be the first 13 sec na auto 4th gen while using the 3.0
Curently only 14.4
Curently only 14.4
12-24-2005, 10:14 AM
#54
Originally Posted by SR-71 Blackbird
different pistons
The 295whp I saw was on a 'normal' version, not the rev up Sorry Kevlo
12-24-2005, 10:30 AM
#55
Originally Posted by NmexMAX
If you're referring to the rev up version, how are they different?
The 295whp I saw was on a 'normal' version, not the rev up Sorry Kevlo
The 295whp I saw was on a 'normal' version, not the rev up Sorry Kevlo
There's no reason you couldn't put in better pistons into a maxima 3.5, put on dual exhaust like the 350z has or put in different cams. But overcoming the problem of the IM and lack of variable timing on the exhaust cam will be pretty hard.
12-24-2005, 10:50 AM
#56
Originally Posted by SR-71 Blackbird
I don't know how they are different, but there's tons of sources that say that the 35th anniv. edition has "revised pistons" and a revised cam profile.
Never heard of the pistons being different, this would affect CR....
And also, how many AE's have you seen get 300 whp?
My car has dupicated a Z33 6MT (287 chp stock, no rev up
) power curve, but my car is 4AT, so we're doing pretty decent with what we have. But this is a pissing contest ... so I'm going to let time and Greddy get together and see what happens.
12-24-2005, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SR-71 Blackbird
I'll go on record to say that 300whp NA in the FWD 3.5's is impossible. SR20DE has more NA WHP than anyone and he's still 33whp away from hitting the magical 300whp.
NOBODY has ever dynoed a FWD VQ35 with Headers/Intake/Cat/Catback, Cams, a made-from-scratch aftermarket plenum and a fully working piggybank capable of advancing timing at will.
I'll go on record to say 300whp NA on a 4.5 gen will be easier to achieve than 300whp on a 350z/G35 because of the samller wheels, smaller brakes, much lighter flywheel, less rotating mass and lighter gears in the 5MT 4th gen tranny, and of course the lack of drivetrain loss coming from the driveshaft and rear differencial.
It will take a while to get there however.
Originally Posted by Tatanko
What do you mean no NA 4th gen's in the 13's? 
12-24-2005, 01:16 PM
#58
Originally Posted by JClaw
I'll go on record to say 300whp NA on a 4.5 gen will be easier to achieve than 300whp on a 350z/G35 because of the samller wheels, smaller brakes
12-24-2005, 01:32 PM
#60
Originally Posted by JClaw
NOBODY has ever dynoed a FWD VQ35 with Headers/Intake/Cat/Catback, Cams, a made-from-scratch aftermarket plenum and a fully working piggybank capable of advancing timing at will.
Originally Posted by JClaw
I'll go on record to say 300whp NA on a 4.5 gen will be easier to achieve than 300whp on a 350z/G35 because of the samller wheels, smaller brakes, much lighter flywheel, less rotating mass and lighter gears in the 5MT 4th gen tranny, and of course the lack of drivetrain loss coming from the driveshaft and rear differencial.
It will take a while to get there however.
It will take a while to get there however.
I do agree that the 3.5 FWD IM is better than the 95-99 USIM though.
12-24-2005, 03:36 PM
#62
I've seen a pretty sick 1-off manifold utilizing individual velocity stacks for the 350z. I'm not allowed to show the pics to anyone though, supposed to be a secret until the owner/designer unveils it.
12-24-2005, 04:14 PM
#63
Originally Posted by SR-71 Blackbird
The FWD 3.5 is not identical internally to the 287hp version of the G35/350z. The cam profile for the G35/350z is more agressive.
12-24-2005, 04:24 PM
#65
Originally Posted by nismology
I don't where you're getting this information from but a quick search in my 2002 maxima and 2003 350Z FSM's produced info to the contrary. Both versions of the motors' cams have the exact same lobe height and the cam timing with the VTC system off is identical as well. There are NO internal differences between the two.
12-24-2005, 06:21 PM
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Yes, but the guys getting nigh 300whp NA are doing so w/ the 287 HP engine. Which means we can do the same thing with Cams and no other internal work + aftermarket IM/tuning and all bolt ons.
B-line?
Right now I'm torn between straight inline air horns/huge plenum/TB on the side and true ITB's. Both WILL make more power than stock but I'm wondering if going the extra mile (MAP instead of MAF, 6 throttle bodies, no plenum) is worth it.
Originally Posted by Nealoc187
I've seen a pretty sick 1-off manifold utilizing individual velocity stacks for the 350z. I'm not allowed to show the pics to anyone though, supposed to be a secret until the owner/designer unveils it.
Right now I'm torn between straight inline air horns/huge plenum/TB on the side and true ITB's. Both WILL make more power than stock but I'm wondering if going the extra mile (MAP instead of MAF, 6 throttle bodies, no plenum) is worth it.
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