What is the fastest 4th gen auto? Check out my Dyno
12-10-2005, 01:07 PM
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What is the fastest 4th gen auto? Check out my Dyno
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So where do I rank for the fastest 4th gen auto's? I think the most I have seen is 195hp-195tq.
So where do I rank for the fastest 4th gen auto's? I think the most I have seen is 195hp-195tq.
12-12-2005, 10:28 AM
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Yeah Neal ran 13.4 with only 185whp or so. Dynos are wierd. IMO they're a tuning tool and nothing more. I don't know or care what my car puts down.
You should aim for "first NA 4th gen auto in the 13s". That hasn't been done.
You should aim for "first NA 4th gen auto in the 13s". That hasn't been done.
12-13-2005, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by JClaw
Yeah Neal ran 13.4 with only 185whp or so. Dynos are wierd. IMO they're a tuning tool and nothing more. I don't know or care what my car puts down.
You should aim for "first NA 4th gen auto in the 13s". That hasn't been done.
You should aim for "first NA 4th gen auto in the 13s". That hasn't been done.
I was thinking about doing it. It would be cool to be the first.
12-13-2005, 10:07 AM
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Nobody has hit the track with an auto 4.5 gen yet. It should be pretty easy to get into the 13's though. There is far less of a difference between auto and manual 3.5's than there is between auto and manual 3.0's.
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12-13-2005, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Iron Scimitar
Why swap a 3.5 when one could boost a 3.0? What are the benefits w/ a whole new engine rather than boosting the current 3.0? I still don't understand...perhaps i never will.
And a brain malfunction called N/A-itus.
12-13-2005, 10:53 AM
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Boost is considerably more expensive and less reliable. It's very hard to blow an N/A engine unless you drive like a complete fuktard and do 30,000 mile interval oil changes. A boosted engine is far more dependant on fine tuning and what not. Little errors can lead to a blown engine. I ran my 3.5 hard all year, have 250 timeslips on it and I don't even know what my A/F and timing looks like. My fuel pressure is probably off too. Try that on a boosted car.
Also, I'd take a 300whp N/A engine over a 300whp FI engine anyday. The 300whp NA car will always put down better numbers and be faster than the 300whp FI engine. It takes more power from FI to get the same times as NA relatively. Several people have proven over at 350z.com that you can get nearly 300whp out of an NA 3.5 with no internal work other than cams. Food for thought.
Go FI if you want SERIOUS power (I.e at least 350whp) otherwise it's not worth it IMO.
Also, I'd take a 300whp N/A engine over a 300whp FI engine anyday. The 300whp NA car will always put down better numbers and be faster than the 300whp FI engine. It takes more power from FI to get the same times as NA relatively. Several people have proven over at 350z.com that you can get nearly 300whp out of an NA 3.5 with no internal work other than cams. Food for thought.
Go FI if you want SERIOUS power (I.e at least 350whp) otherwise it's not worth it IMO.
12-13-2005, 11:37 AM
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I've been researching the best route to take with my car and I found that N/A would be the best for me. The 2 main reasons were reliablitiy and price like NmexMAX said. I do want to hit the 14's before I do a swap though. Plus it would be fun beating up on FI cars with my auto N/A car. Also being the 3rd 3.5 swapped auto aint that bad either.
12-13-2005, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JClaw
The 300whp NA car will always put down better numbers and be faster than the 300whp FI engine. It takes more power from FI to get the same times as NA relatively. Several people have proven over at 350z.com that you can get nearly 300whp out of an NA 3.5 with no internal work other than cams. Food for thought.
12-13-2005, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
You mean lazy... 
12-14-2005, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
I don't really agree with that. It can go either way.
I'm reminded of a thread when a newbie asking something like "how much WHP does it take to run such and such times" and the first reply asked "NA or FI?".
Not putting down the turbo/SC guys, just saying that one should only go FI on these cars when absolutely required to make their desired power levels. So in your case (I think Hal trapped 122 mph off the bottle), there's just no other way to reach that power level and I totally understand why you went that route. If I were older and cash allowed it I might've gone that way too.
But if someone just wants to throw on an SC with stock size pulley and call it a day, NA would be the better option.
12-15-2005, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=444631
So where do I rank for the fastest 4th gen auto's? I think the most I have seen is 195hp-195tq.
So where do I rank for the fastest 4th gen auto's? I think the most I have seen is 195hp-195tq.
12-15-2005, 08:12 PM
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a wise chinese woman(my old shi fu(shi fu = martial arts teacher in my case)) told me once its not how much power you have... its how you use it.
1 question though... how many times have you had to replaced your tranny???
***edit*** forgot to give props
1 question though... how many times have you had to replaced your tranny???
***edit*** forgot to give props
12-17-2005, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Ninos_Maxima
how many times have you had to replaced your tranny???
12-17-2005, 02:03 PM
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Took the words out of my mouth Neal.
The fastest imports are all auto's, the slowest are all auto's, somewhere in between there is a crossover, I hope to find next racing season.
BTW The fastest imports I am talking about the 6 and 7 sec cars.
The fastest imports are all auto's, the slowest are all auto's, somewhere in between there is a crossover, I hope to find next racing season.
BTW The fastest imports I am talking about the 6 and 7 sec cars.
12-17-2005, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Jime
The fastest imports are all auto's, the slowest are all auto's.
Originally Posted by Jime
somewhere in between there is a crossover, I hope to find next racing season.
So far we know the crossover point is not in the 13s.
12-21-2005, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by fanaticrockford
I hope to be the first 13 sec na auto 4th gen while using the 3.0
Curently only 14.4
Curently only 14.4
12-21-2005, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxGordon7
14.4 is a nice time for auto max, id be happy. What rims and weight reduction you running to get those times?
12-22-2005, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by fanaticrockford
Alot of weight reduction and millenia front wheels with rear stock sawblades.There is alot of posts with my weight reduction and track times.
Pardon my laziness
12-22-2005, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Tatanko
With what sorts of other mods?
Pardon my laziness
Pardon my laziness
12-22-2005, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by fanaticrockford
Your lucky you put the smiley. I won't make you search now.warpspeed y-pipe,pr cai,unorthodox udp,removed stock cat back and the millenia wheels thats it.
12-23-2005, 07:17 PM
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I should be in the 13s very soon. I just gotta get my car back together after recently hitting a dog. It set me back a little bit this season. But I will hit 13s NA on the stock ECU sometime this winter. I'm actually eyeing deep in the 13s, like 13.6-13.8s. When I ran 14.3s, it was close to 80 degrees in FL on one of the slowest tracks in the nation. Now I'm back in NC, where I think we have a lot of nitrous in the air. 
I should easily be able to run in 40 degree weather, plus another 100lbs of weight reduction and some other little things I have planned.
I should easily be able to run in 40 degree weather, plus another 100lbs of weight reduction and some other little things I have planned.